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To say DP should do nights as well as me even tho he works

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Abdican · 20/09/2025 12:51

right so I don’t normally post on here I’ve been reading a bit but this is my first time posting sorry if it’s long

basically youngest is 2 and he still dont sleep through he wakes up 3 sometimes 4 times a night wanting a bottle and I’m always the one getting up cos DP says he has work and needs his sleep but then I’m still up at 6 doing school run and college run and sorting the others and I feel like a zombie half the time

I asked him last night if he could just do one of the wake ups so I can get a block of sleep and he went off on one saying he earns the money so I shouldnt be moaning but I don’t sit around all day I’m doing everything in the house as well plus I’ve got 5 kids to deal with and he just sits watching telly in the evenings

I’m so tired I can barely think straight AIBU to say he should be doing some of the nights as well even if he works or am I being unfair

OP posts:
Catwalking · 20/09/2025 17:05

Abdican, I’m sorry to say, you must teach your 2yr old to drink from a cup as soon as possible. If the child can sip off a spoon, it can sip from a cup. I suggest instead of allowing the afternoon sleep/rest, just teach drinking like adults can, surely child can see everyone else using cups or mugs.
Bin the bottles asap, (I never had a single bottle -lazy, couldn’t be bothered to sterilise etc. 😆 but it worked for 3 children!).

TheGoodEnoughWife · 20/09/2025 16:39

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 15:53

I don’t give a rat’s if it’s a man or a woman at home.

Whoever is working outside the home and earning money shouldn’t then have to come home and pick up half the other partner’s burden. Occasionally, perhaps, but certainly not as a general rule.

Half the other persons burden?! This would be the care of THEIR children? Why does his work stop when he gets home but the OP is 24hrs a day?

Theoturkeyistheonlyturkeyonmytable · 20/09/2025 16:32

I sound harsh
But I had 3 under 3 and a DH away from home for 2 weeks at a time .
The youngest was 2 weeks old ,and I had a2 year old and a 1 year old and DH went away for work for two weeks ..no family or help ...plus we were home schooling ,so not using childcare
Mine were all in bed by 7 pm ,after bath and stories and a solid supper .
I never had any of these issues,with waking in the night ..they were exhausted by bedtime,as we did crafts ,parks , social groups every day ..
I also only allowed one hour of TV per day .and from 18 months no day time naps.
No bottles at night once on 3 meals a day ..no bottles at all after 12 months .
I needed my evening to myself to be able to cope in the day .
You need a routine with that many children,I have 4 all together.
You can do this

Theoturkeyistheonlyturkeyonmytable · 20/09/2025 16:22

Mine had a sippy cup of water in the cot with them a this age .
The daytime nap needs to go
A solid supper is needed to fill him before bed
He needs a strict routine ,a strict 7 pm bedtime where you read to him every night
Your driving yourself mad
The only positive in all this is at least he's in his own bed
He needs to be worn out in the day physically and mentally to get him to sleep at night .
Stop the day time naps
Is he getting to toddler group every day ,and a park to run round in or is he stuck at home while you clean and tidy and he watches TV .??
He needs to be you priority in the day ,doing playdogh
Going to parks ,seeing animals , meeting friends..not in the house while you clean .
You have people to delegate some of the housework to
Yes it feels like people are shouting at you
Do you actually want help and advice...or just sympathy?
You can do this

Luxio · 20/09/2025 16:17

I appreciate you sound frustrated but this isn't an issue which will resolve without you biting the bullet and removing the bottles. Yes he may scream and cry and you might have a few days where you're all more tired but that's going to happen no matter when you make this change.

Make sure he's had plenty to eat and give him a sippy cup of water and preserver. It sounds like your other kids are plenty old enough to understand he will be unsettled for a few days.

moondune · 20/09/2025 16:14

Yes I agree with @LoremIpsumCici - he needs testing for diabetes.

LoremIpsumCici · 20/09/2025 16:11

basically youngest is 2 and he still dont sleep through he wakes up 3 sometimes 4 times a night wanting a bottle

self serve sippy cup of water by his bed at night, why does he have to wake you up if he is thirsty?

also take him to a doctor to test for type 1 diabetes- that level of thirst that wakes up a 2yo that many times a night is not normal. It may be he is asking for a bottle when he really had a bad dream, but just in case…get him checked for diabetes.

Quandri · 20/09/2025 16:10

you either go cold turkey or you water the bottles down.

why is he having bottles during the day at all? He’s 2 years old not 2 months!!!

Swiftie1878 · 20/09/2025 16:08

Abdican · 20/09/2025 16:05

just wanted to update cos a few ppl asked if I’d tried water instead of bottles so I thought I’d give it a go for his nap earlier and honestly it was a nightmare he screamed the house down for nearly an hour and then woke up after 20 mins anyway so I don’t know how I’m meant to do that through the night when I’ve got the others needing sleep for school/college

DP just sat there saying I told you so and now he’s gone off to his mums for his dinner cos he reckons I’m stressing him out. I feel like crying tbh.

I’m not saying you’re all wrong I get that I probably need to stop the bottles but I don’t feel strong enough to go cold turkey when I’m already shattered. maybe I’ll try and cut it down slowly instead but I just needed some advice not to be told I’m making a rod for my own back cos I feel like I already know that

anyway thanks to those who’ve been nice I didn’t realise posting would feel like being shouted at lol xx

He’s 2. Why is he having milk during the day? What are you feeding him?! He sounds hungry!!!

Abdican · 20/09/2025 16:05

just wanted to update cos a few ppl asked if I’d tried water instead of bottles so I thought I’d give it a go for his nap earlier and honestly it was a nightmare he screamed the house down for nearly an hour and then woke up after 20 mins anyway so I don’t know how I’m meant to do that through the night when I’ve got the others needing sleep for school/college

DP just sat there saying I told you so and now he’s gone off to his mums for his dinner cos he reckons I’m stressing him out. I feel like crying tbh.

I’m not saying you’re all wrong I get that I probably need to stop the bottles but I don’t feel strong enough to go cold turkey when I’m already shattered. maybe I’ll try and cut it down slowly instead but I just needed some advice not to be told I’m making a rod for my own back cos I feel like I already know that

anyway thanks to those who’ve been nice I didn’t realise posting would feel like being shouted at lol xx

OP posts:
smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 15:53

TheGoodEnoughWife · 20/09/2025 13:35

Utter rubbish. He can only go to work as his children are being cared for by the OP. He doesn’t get to not help in any way because he earns the money.

If the OP continues to shoulder all the burden of childcare she will break. What’s he going to do then?

As I said my love for someone would die a quick death if they saw me struggling to cope and didn’t step up.

Way to stomp on women.

I don’t give a rat’s if it’s a man or a woman at home.

Whoever is working outside the home and earning money shouldn’t then have to come home and pick up half the other partner’s burden. Occasionally, perhaps, but certainly not as a general rule.

Fearfulsaints · 20/09/2025 15:26

I think its fair to get a break. If you stay at home you do expect to do the majority of stuff. But, marriage is meant to be a team that helps each other out. The mn view of marriage seems to be a competition with earning winning. Sometimes in a meaningful partnership you end uo doing more or carrying more because you can. Hopefully at any given point one of you can stand up.

what kind of partner hears someone say something that means 'I'm struggling and feel shit with lack of sleep' and thier response is tough, I earn the money.

He could give you a break one night a week easily. He coukd also give you a 'holiday' or 'sick leave' even if thats just to reset you to let you tackle the bottle issue.

JungAtHeart · 20/09/2025 15:25

Collect all his bottles in one place so he knows where they are. Get him a little gift you know he wants. Write a note from the bottle elf/fairy/friend saying they’ve taken them for all the babies that need them but has left him a gift. It’s ends I did with my DDs. They loved their fairy cakes and train set and they just accepted the bottles were no more …

childofthe607080s · 20/09/2025 15:24

At least Friday or Saturday night you should have uninterrupted

daysfilledwithdappledlight · 20/09/2025 15:19

Unless he’s a surgeon or his job involves the safety of people then I believe all time outside ‘working hours’ should be evenly split.

Ie. working hours are 8-5
During this time dad does his job, mum does her job (so happens to be raising the kids)
Outside of ‘work time’ everything child and house related should be equally divided and shared as possible, leaning into the persons strengths.

unless he’s a brain surgeon how on earth does he think it’s ok for you to be up 4 times in the night while he sleeps soundly and refuse your request for help. Really feel for you. You’re a team, he needs to start being a team player.

Moonnstars · 20/09/2025 15:15

How old are all the children? So there is the 2 year old who wakes and then a teenager of college age, but what about the ones in between? Are they all at school? Does the 2 year old go to nursery? Do they nap during the day?
I think if there is time in the day when all but the 2 year old are home and they nap, then you are being unreasonable and you could try and nap then too. Really it depends on the ages of these children and how involved you need to be.

RosesAndHellebores · 20/09/2025 15:15

thismummyslife · 20/09/2025 15:12

I take on board you comment however, it’s the OP that is looking after the children all day, driving them around, carrying the toddler up and down stairs, cooking, using household cleaning products, I disagree that a mum with a toddler at home doesn’t need a to be focused and just survive on a lack of sleep!

OP-
your husband needs to do more to help, it’s because of your dedication to looking after the children that he is working,
progressing in his career etc. explain to him now this needs to stop now and you need support! X

Not quite the same as being in court for the prosecution is it? As it was also far less demanding when I was working at an Investment Bank selling bonds. In fact it was easy peasy lemon squeezy in comparison.

thismummyslife · 20/09/2025 15:12

RosesAndHellebores · 20/09/2025 13:16

I disagree with most others. I didn't work from when ds was 14 months. I did all the nights because DH had a job, admittedly surgeon genre and needed to be focused at all times. I didn't.

My youngest was also a night waker and needed a bottle in the night to go back to sleep until about three.

The older ones need to be more independent.

Edited

I take on board you comment however, it’s the OP that is looking after the children all day, driving them around, carrying the toddler up and down stairs, cooking, using household cleaning products, I disagree that a mum with a toddler at home doesn’t need a to be focused and just survive on a lack of sleep!

OP-
your husband needs to do more to help, it’s because of your dedication to looking after the children that he is working,
progressing in his career etc. explain to him now this needs to stop now and you need support! X

Loveduppenguin · 20/09/2025 15:10

Book a couple of days off. Make a plan with your DH. Use those couple of nights to let your two-year-old get over the fact that he can’t be having milk at night. It might take three nights but he’ll get the message eventually. It won’t be doing his teeth any favours so I wouldn’t even put in the blood now and suffer for 2/3nights rather than suffering for another year.

usedtobeaylis · 20/09/2025 15:10

Imagine my surprise to see someone prioritising the husband's employer in a domestic question 😂

usedtobeaylis · 20/09/2025 15:09

To the question you have actually asked, YANBU. If a child is waking up repeatedly every night for ANY reason, his dad should be taking some of the wake ups.

Maxorias · 20/09/2025 15:04

HoskinsChoice · 20/09/2025 13:24

I'd absolutely go against the rest here. It is your choice to be a parent of 5 kids, it is not your husband's employer's choice for you to have 5 kids. He is being paid to do a job and therefore is obliged to do it well. It is irresponsible for any working parent, male or female, to turn up to work dead on their feet because they've been up half the night and still expect to be paid. This is especially the case where one of the parents is not working. I'm totally with your husband here.

It's not the employer's choice but it is the husband's choice to have 5 kids. He had contraceptive options if he didn't want that many. He should do the night wake ups. And he should also do his job properly. One night a week where he doesn't sleep properly isn't insurmontable, unless he's a pilot or a brain surgeon (in which case he should still do it on his days off).

janiejonstone · 20/09/2025 15:01

Hi OP, wanted to send you a huge amount of sympathy. You must be absolutely exhausted. Please ignore the people saying the problem is the bottle, it's very very hard to start a new routine when you're doing it alone and already shattered. My daughter was breastfed on and off until she was 20 months, and was still waking up during the night at age 2. During one holiday when she woke up multiple times every night I became so tired that I started hallucinating; even then, my (now ex) husband refused to help. And we only had one child, I can't imagine how difficult it would be with more. I've since come to understand that this sleep deprivation was a form of control and abuse. Absolutely not saying it's that extreme in your case, but it's impossible to understand how distressing this is if you haven't experienced it. It is incredibly unfair for him to put all of this onto your shoulders; he needs to jointly come up with a plan for how to handle the current situation and what a better one looks like.

Ophy83 · 20/09/2025 14:59

Sounds like you need a rethink on a number of fronts, as you are running yourself ragged and it's unsustainable.

That includes the bottles at night, but also the older kids' routines so you don't have to get up so early.

One issue is the school/college run. How far away is school/college? Most kids at my son's secondary school get themselves there, be it walking/cycling/bus/train. That cuts your responsibility down to anyone going to primary school/nursery.

Re morning organisation. Remind them to check their timetables and pack their bags before bed with whatever they'll need for the following day - the earlier they get into the habit the better. If you aren't available to drop things off to them at school they'll have to remember things themselves.

If making breakfast is an issue, ensure there is yoghurt in the fridge or do overnight oats so they can help themselves.

Theoturkeyistheonlyturkeyonmytable · 20/09/2025 14:54

Sounds like your other kids are older ..so basically why are you run ragged
If your two year old naps in the day ,stop the naps
Introduce supper of porridge to fill up your 2 year old ..
And tiere him out physically in the day
This is ridiculous you being this tired ,and ridiculous you getting up at night for a 2 year old
I mean come on ,your not a first time mum ,you have 5 ,this should be water of a ducks back now ..you should be acing motherhood by number 5.
Have you lost your confidence or something?
Because you have raised 4 two year olds ,you know what you are doing