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To ask if you agree with ‘the flag flyers’

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Gobbledygook123 · 19/09/2025 17:54

Plus if you’re also educated and at least middle income?

The only people I know personally that agree with Farage et al are from working class backgrounds and/or are generally not educated higher than GCSE level.

Granted this is quite a small snapshot but this includes friends of friends, acquaintances etc so wondering if my perception of the ‘typical Farage voter’ is correct or skewed.

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Notagain75 · 19/09/2025 18:38

smallglassbottle · 19/09/2025 18:18

I feel quite sad really. The communities that are being more adversely affected by migration are the poorer ones. Working class people shouldn't be dismissed just because they might not have a degree. They're of equal worth as people and quite a few earn well and pay plenty of tax.

Personally I think it's illogical to allow hundreds of people into the country when we don't know their background or any criminal histories they might have. Plus I don't agree with islam as a belief system.

I have a professional qualification, but come from a working class background in a poorer part of the country. I don't vote for farage. The man's a grifter.

We don't allow 100s of people to come into the country without a background check on their criminality.
And Islam as a belief system is just as acceptable as Christianity.
The issue is with extremists and they exist in every religion.

Cleo65 · 19/09/2025 18:37

So everyone else can wave their flags frantically in support of whatever they're passionate about....but not people who want Britain to be great again (& are 'working class & uneducated').
Odd concept...

Gobbledygook123 · 19/09/2025 18:35

There are plenty of thick, upper-class, degree-educated people

There certainly are however I’m asking about a very specific subject.

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PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 19/09/2025 18:33

Gobbledygook123 · 19/09/2025 18:30

The only people I know or know of that support Farage are either working class or uneducated or both. Not all of them are thick but some of those are. I just don’t know of anyone who doesn’t at least fall into one of those camps.

From personal experience. Hence the post to see if this is genuinely as it appears in my albeit small control group

There are plenty of thick, upper-class, degree-educated people. Have you seen the Just Stop Oil dickheads throwing tomato soup on priceless artwork?

Notagain75 · 19/09/2025 18:33

No I don't agree because they are not about being proud of your country they are about intimidating people who are not English/British
All the people who fly the flag might not be racist but then organisers of the movement are

Gobbledygook123 · 19/09/2025 18:30

PalePurplePumpkin · 19/09/2025 18:11

Be careful OP

You're in danger of sounding as though you're calling working class people 'thick'?

I'm quite sure this isn't your intention.

The only people I know or know of that support Farage are either working class or uneducated or both. Not all of them are thick but some of those are. I just don’t know of anyone who doesn’t at least fall into one of those camps.

From personal experience. Hence the post to see if this is genuinely as it appears in my albeit small control group

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PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 19/09/2025 18:27

Petrolitis · 19/09/2025 18:00

Degree and professional qualification and no I don't agree.

The flags are a rascist calling card. We've never ever been a big flag waving nation. It isn't anything to do with patriotism.

The poorly educated are easy to manipulate that's why Donald Trump freely admitted smart people don't vote for him. I listened to Tim Hartford take apart Nigel Farage's lies about unemployment figures on More or Less earlier. The information is all out there but if you don't have the education or an enquiring mind you don't even look for it.

That said I do think you have to be fucking thick to believe Farage after he so provably lied about Brexit.

What is the definition of "poorly educated"? And are working-class people's opinions only deemed worthy if they have a degree? Not all intelligence can be measured by traditional academics. Many, many people struggle academically and go on to be successful in other careers or other parts of life.

I think only gullible people believe in sky fairies. I'm guessing there are many degree educated people who are religious!

As a working-class "poorly educated" (ONLY GCSEs - poor me Hmm) I think most people flying flags are just jumping on the bandwagon. It's not something I'd ever do, but then all flags annoy me, whether they're St George, Palestinian, Israeli, rainbow or whatever.

Most working-class people aren't racist, unfortunately, Farage and co are tapping into the underlying current of discontent and constantly feeling put upon by the ordinary person.

I'm a lifelong Labour voter and very left-wing, but after seeing people claiming more in benefits than both DH and I earn combined, I can see why people are doing anything to be heard. I work in UC, and the number of people who are not from this country who manage to claim all kinds of benefits and then send the majority of it abroad is fucking appalling!

Compared to a case I dealt with earlier this week of a (British) man in his 40s who had had a nasty car accident 10 years ago. He has to live with his parents so they can care for him. He has a metal plate in his head, neurological damage that means he is mentally impaired in a lot of ways, had to have both his knees completely rebuilt and struggles to walk far. Yet he has been refused PIP twice and is only entitled to the standard allowance of £400pm of UC. He's expected to attend the JC regularly and prove he's been looking for work.

Last week I had a case of a man (not British born - won't say where, but he was white), who is entitled to UC LCWRA, PIP, and isn't expected to look for work. His "disability"? Depression.

Ablondiebutagoody · 19/09/2025 18:23

I saw an interesting survey this week that ex private school pupils are much more likely to vote Labour than ex state school. Farage now represents the working class. And there's lots of them OP 😱

Spleenmean · 19/09/2025 18:23

I don’t see anything wrong with the flags.

I have a degree, professional qualification and work in a professional job. I’m from
a working class background

smallglassbottle · 19/09/2025 18:18

I feel quite sad really. The communities that are being more adversely affected by migration are the poorer ones. Working class people shouldn't be dismissed just because they might not have a degree. They're of equal worth as people and quite a few earn well and pay plenty of tax.

Personally I think it's illogical to allow hundreds of people into the country when we don't know their background or any criminal histories they might have. Plus I don't agree with islam as a belief system.

I have a professional qualification, but come from a working class background in a poorer part of the country. I don't vote for farage. The man's a grifter.

Fatcatsinspats · 19/09/2025 18:18

No. I don’t agree. I would love to be proud of the flag but I feel ashamed. I am a higher rate taxpayer and undertaking an MA.

I don’t think the flag people are uneducated or thick. They are lacking opportunities or any real chance to progress. Farage and his acolytes are using and abusing them.

blankcanvas3 · 19/09/2025 18:13

I have a degree. Don’t agree with the flag flyers and have actively taken some down this week

Zanatdy · 19/09/2025 18:12

Degree, higher rate tax payer but always class myself as working class. Absolutely do not agree no.

Itstheshowgirl · 19/09/2025 18:11

Petrolitis · 19/09/2025 18:00

Degree and professional qualification and no I don't agree.

The flags are a rascist calling card. We've never ever been a big flag waving nation. It isn't anything to do with patriotism.

The poorly educated are easy to manipulate that's why Donald Trump freely admitted smart people don't vote for him. I listened to Tim Hartford take apart Nigel Farage's lies about unemployment figures on More or Less earlier. The information is all out there but if you don't have the education or an enquiring mind you don't even look for it.

That said I do think you have to be fucking thick to believe Farage after he so provably lied about Brexit.

I don’t agree with them either but go look at any royal event like weddings and trooping of the colour and you will see flags everywhere so it’s not quite true to say that we aren’t a flag waving nation.

PalePurplePumpkin · 19/09/2025 18:11

Be careful OP

You're in danger of sounding as though you're calling working class people 'thick'?

I'm quite sure this isn't your intention.

LaughingAloudAsWeGoInsane · 19/09/2025 18:08

TheExcitersblowingupmymind · 19/09/2025 18:03

Done to death.

It has been, but then pretty much everything has been on this site. From parking in parent and child spaces without a child, to how often do you shower, to discussing how much costs have gone up, VAT on private school etc, it’s the same stuff over and over.

TheExcitersblowingupmymind · 19/09/2025 18:03

Done to death.

Petrolitis · 19/09/2025 18:00

Degree and professional qualification and no I don't agree.

The flags are a rascist calling card. We've never ever been a big flag waving nation. It isn't anything to do with patriotism.

The poorly educated are easy to manipulate that's why Donald Trump freely admitted smart people don't vote for him. I listened to Tim Hartford take apart Nigel Farage's lies about unemployment figures on More or Less earlier. The information is all out there but if you don't have the education or an enquiring mind you don't even look for it.

That said I do think you have to be fucking thick to believe Farage after he so provably lied about Brexit.