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Letter informing parents about the closure of after school club

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oodles50 · 19/09/2025 17:03

Apologies for this, but this has annoyed me this afternoon and I feel like I need to vent about it!

We received a letter this afternoon totally out of the blue informing us that our school’s after school wrap around care is closing in two weeks time.

The school apologised for this but said there aren’t enough numbers for it to be ‘viable’.

I have several friends who talk about how oversubscribed their children’s after school club is, and I can’t comprehend how there aren’t enough children each day to cover the costs.

What’s more annoying is that in the letter they said don’t worry, there’s another setting down the road that can offer wrap around care - it’s double the price! (£8.50 vs £15.50 a day).

My DD has just started in reception and a big reason why we chose this school over another one we liked, was ironically the wrap around care provision. I just feel like we’ve had two weeks of school and just settled into things and the rug has been pulled, and I’m left scrabbling around, working out if I can change my hours, or if I’m going to be forced to pay double the amount I was expecting.

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tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:37

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:37

Whatever you say. Good job there’s still some people willing to actually get off their arses and go to work! You’d be the first to complain if your kids teacher decided they needed to teach via zoom for childcare purposes or your gp decided they work virtually ‘fitting it in when they can’ !

Nope, not at all - I'd be quite happy with OOH GP appointments online - it would be perfect for me, actually Grin

Blueberry911 · 19/09/2025 20:37

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:19

I teach in a secondary school. Imagine if all teachers ditched their roles for wfh where we can avoid having to pay for childcare! I’m struggling to understand how your lunch break covers a school run both ends of the day. So you don’t take any breaks at all during the day and only stop working to do school run? Don’t eat?

My job is more flexible than yours, understandable as you're a teacher

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:37

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:30

Well, you're doing a good job of appearing envious, that's for sure.

Whatever you say. Good job there’s still some people willing to actually get off their arses and go to work! You’d be the first to complain if your kids teacher decided they needed to teach via zoom for childcare purposes or your gp decided they work virtually ‘fitting it in when they can’ !

BoredZelda · 19/09/2025 20:35

LauraHopkins · 19/09/2025 18:07

In a contrast of worlds… the afterschool at DD’s school is oversubscribed for 4 out of 5 days and costs £19 a session. She’s still on the waiting list for 2 days, nearly 18 months after she was allocated a place in reception.

It’s all about the area. Our school had a low number for children who were eligible for PEF - low income families who tend to have one SAHP, or other family member who provide childcare. The after school club was very over subscribed. Until Covid when more people WFH then the numbers dropped and it was easier to get a place. The school in the next area over had a much higher number of PEF eligible children, their ASC was never that busy and closed after Covid because more people were WFH.

We have an ASC club who picks children up from schools and takes them back to their base in a local community centre. That seems to be the model that works best, but it is more expensive to run.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:30

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:24

I’m not envious, they’ll get found out eventually as a lot will are slowly being asked to go back to the office and are shitting themselves about having to put a shift in!

Well, you're doing a good job of appearing envious, that's for sure.

Barney16 · 19/09/2025 20:30

Childcare is really expensive to provide and operates on very fine margins. It's such a shame but at £8.50 it's probably just not making enough money to carry on going.

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 20:30

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:23

What full time hours allow you to be free before school, during drop off time, and then during collection and after ? If you drop off at school, then come home and log on, then log off in time to get to school for pickup, then drive home, and look after your kids until your other half gets in, how are you fitting 40-plus hours a week in? Or do you work with primary aged kids in the house, if so how do you actually get proper work done?

my own mum worked nights, dropped us off then went to bed for 5 hours, got up and picked up, did tea bath homework etc then went back to a night shift when my dad came in at 8pm. I suspect that’s not what everyone’s doing though!!

Night shifts. Split shifts. Hospitality where you don't start til after school. Any job where you've got to do a certain number of hours/tasks but have control over when you do them. An other half who's in already because they wfh too and finish before you do. Jobs with core hours that fall within the school day but significant flexibility orherwise. Own business offering your services when it's convenient to you and totalling over 35 hours a week.

Also, loads of older primary kids are fine entertaining themselves for a couple of hours, or potentially having an eye kept by an older sibling. Mine goes to family for preference, but would be fine in the house. You're a secondary teacher, some of your pupils probably do it.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:28

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:23

What full time hours allow you to be free before school, during drop off time, and then during collection and after ? If you drop off at school, then come home and log on, then log off in time to get to school for pickup, then drive home, and look after your kids until your other half gets in, how are you fitting 40-plus hours a week in? Or do you work with primary aged kids in the house, if so how do you actually get proper work done?

my own mum worked nights, dropped us off then went to bed for 5 hours, got up and picked up, did tea bath homework etc then went back to a night shift when my dad came in at 8pm. I suspect that’s not what everyone’s doing though!!

One parent might work 7-3 while the other works 10-6.
Some people work from home and can flex their hours to do the school run.
Some people work school hours and then do extra in the evenings, or at weekends.
Some people work shifts.
Some people have family living with them who can help with childcare.
Some have older siblings at home who can "supervise" while they work and are on hand in case of an emergency.

Also, not all jobs require you to be sat at a desk for eight hours straight. Lots of people can work from their phones, or fit in their hours as and when. It's very normal.

You seem to have a very outdated view of the workplace.

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:27

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 20:21

Yes, I'm sure there are absolutely masses of parents at your DCs school telling you all about their contracted hours and work patterns. Dozens, nay hundreds!

this Is the life of many parents at my kids school, I could name about 15 who post this sort of routine on their social media most days but tbf they could be completely bullshitting as instagram is hardly known for its realism! Couple of of them ‘work from home’ doing influencing so tbh that’s not actually a job.

Haveaproperty · 19/09/2025 20:25

Thats not a lot of notice. I would be pissed off too.
All the schools round here are 15 a day though. 8.50 seems very cheap. You can get tax free childcare for it too which helps a little.

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:24

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:23

Good for them.

Envy isn't a good look Wink

I’m not envious, they’ll get found out eventually as a lot will are slowly being asked to go back to the office and are shitting themselves about having to put a shift in!

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:23

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 19:40

I laugh when people think nobody can ever work full time with a different pattern to them.

What full time hours allow you to be free before school, during drop off time, and then during collection and after ? If you drop off at school, then come home and log on, then log off in time to get to school for pickup, then drive home, and look after your kids until your other half gets in, how are you fitting 40-plus hours a week in? Or do you work with primary aged kids in the house, if so how do you actually get proper work done?

my own mum worked nights, dropped us off then went to bed for 5 hours, got up and picked up, did tea bath homework etc then went back to a night shift when my dad came in at 8pm. I suspect that’s not what everyone’s doing though!!

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 20:23

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:16

Loads of parents at my kids school do a 20 minute walk to school, ten minute chat after they go in, amble back via a coffee shop for a takeout latte. Log on ‘for 9am’ at about 9.20, repeat end of day.

Good for them.

Envy isn't a good look Wink

oodles50 · 19/09/2025 20:22

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 19:57

Lots of people work and don't need childcare, for all sorts of reasons.

Some work opposing hours, some work evenings and weekends, some work from home, some have older siblings who can "supervise", or grandparents who can take over etc.

Just because a school is popular doesn't mean parents all work 9-5 and need traditional childcare. Where I live, working 9-5 is very much out of the ordinary.

I know, I was joking.

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SUPerSaver721 · 19/09/2025 20:22

Wow £8.50 a day. I pay £30 a day after school 3 to 6pm for 1 child. No other provision to choose from.

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 20:21

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:16

Loads of parents at my kids school do a 20 minute walk to school, ten minute chat after they go in, amble back via a coffee shop for a takeout latte. Log on ‘for 9am’ at about 9.20, repeat end of day.

Yes, I'm sure there are absolutely masses of parents at your DCs school telling you all about their contracted hours and work patterns. Dozens, nay hundreds!

helpfulperson · 19/09/2025 20:21

it's an unintended side effect of increased wfh, the demand for wraparound care just isn't there because so many parents pick the children up then continue to work.

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:19

Blueberry911 · 19/09/2025 19:45

I have a job I do every day, working full time, but can do a school run on my lunch hour 🤔 Not sure why you think that isn't possible. Then deposit the kids with their nan/their hobby/the other parent who has then finished work.

I'm sorry your job doesn't allow you to wfh but that's not everyone else's fault!

I teach in a secondary school. Imagine if all teachers ditched their roles for wfh where we can avoid having to pay for childcare! I’m struggling to understand how your lunch break covers a school run both ends of the day. So you don’t take any breaks at all during the day and only stop working to do school run? Don’t eat?

Louisechocco · 19/09/2025 20:18

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 19:38

If they've got people who actually want to, yes as long as the ratios work. But that's not a given.

If there's currently school staff who have DC at the school, either they finish when school does or their DC are cared for by someone else while they finish their hours. A TA whose kids go to a childminder for an hour doesn't necessarily want to do ASC for 2 or 3, even if it means they no longer need to pay for after school care. Maybe they have other commitments, their DC have clubs, or they just prefer them to have a shorter day.

Not all kids esp older primary enjoy after school clubs so a TA ‘s children may prefer to be at home / on play dates/ swimming etc so may not work even if place is free.

KindLemur · 19/09/2025 20:16

sminted · 19/09/2025 19:53

I do laugh when people say they wfh full time but spend an hour at each end of the day doing the school run. You’re not working full time then are you?

People have different patterns and flexi hours though. And the only people I know with an hour school commute are those with dc in private.
DH doesn't start work until 9:30 so can drop the dc off & be home before he even starts work. Mine often do a club when it's not needed for childcare purposes but because they want to do the extracurricular or spend time with their friends.

Loads of parents at my kids school do a 20 minute walk to school, ten minute chat after they go in, amble back via a coffee shop for a takeout latte. Log on ‘for 9am’ at about 9.20, repeat end of day.

Flamingoqueenofchaos · 19/09/2025 20:13

Our after school club, run by the school and in the school hall is 3.20-6.30 and cost £16 per session - they have 50 kids there!
Breakfast club for 1.5hrs is £6 per session

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 20:00

Yes, lots of DC in year 6 will be fine getting themselves home from school and chilling whilst a parent finishes their day of remote work. Some year 5s too, albeit there are schools who don't like it at that age.

shephardspieontoast · 19/09/2025 20:00

The school I work in will have to shut ours. We can't absorb the loss and we don't get enough children to make it break even.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 19/09/2025 19:57

oodles50 · 19/09/2025 19:55

No it’s actually oversubscribed. This is what can’t get my head around.

Beginning to think it’s only me and a couple of others parents at the school who work 🤣

Lots of people work and don't need childcare, for all sorts of reasons.

Some work opposing hours, some work evenings and weekends, some work from home, some have older siblings who can "supervise", or grandparents who can take over etc.

Just because a school is popular doesn't mean parents all work 9-5 and need traditional childcare. Where I live, working 9-5 is very much out of the ordinary.

oodles50 · 19/09/2025 19:55

sminted · 19/09/2025 19:43

Our after school club is £30 per dc (but you can get tax free childcare) & It's full.
Is the school in general under subscribed?

No it’s actually oversubscribed. This is what can’t get my head around.

Beginning to think it’s only me and a couple of others parents at the school who work 🤣

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