Backlash against Trans women

Is he a client? Why are you allowing him to run meetings at your premises?

Yes. Three of them over the last decade

It doesn't stop him as the 'punishment' to date has been stymied by the bank of mum and dad and some very good psychiatric reports!

Have you considered getting a court injunction to prevent him from sueing you/your service as hes using the courts to harass you/your service?

They certainly are.

The one who objects to us running the trans service wants our funding, all the paperwork (he doesn't trust us to keep his 'trans siblings' data safe, despite him being the one who has already doxxed me and one of our therapists) and the lease on the building to be turned over to him. He has no experience, no ability to run the service and constantly plonks himself in the middle of meetings and demands to be referred to as the 'convener' of the service

He is absolutely shameless and wholly bankrolled by absentee parents. This seems to be his calling!!!

And no, no legal remonstration has ever worked for more than a few weeks. He has cost us a fortune, taking money out of the frontline, directly reducing the number of clients we can help

Knowing it isn't just us is even more infuriating when someone, male or female, throws out the "you don't know one/they just want to live"

Meh!

They certainly are.

The one who objects to us running the trans service wants our funding, all the paperwork (he doesn't trust us to keep his 'trans siblings' data safe, despite him being the one who has already doxxed me and one of our therapists) and the lease on the building to be turned over to him. He has no experience, no ability to run the service and constantly plonks himself in the middle of meetings and demands to be referred to as the 'convener' of the service

He is absolutely shameless and wholly bankrolled by absentee parents. This seems to be his calling!!!

And no, no legal remonstration has ever worked for more than a few weeks. He has cost us a fortune, taking money out of the frontline, directly reducing the number of clients we can help

Yes, absolutely. I probably should have referenced that tbh.

The fact that in so many cases a third space is rejected and there’s just screaming outrage at not being allowed to use the women’s single sex space says it all.

So many examples - the Ponds being a great one currently.

I can also remember the case of the trans identifying man who was offered a private changing room when swimming. Pretty much every woman I know would have been overjoyed. The man was furious. He wanted to get changed in the public space where women were getting undressed. Totally normal behaviour…not.

IIRC, a third category was set up in sport and there wasn’t a single trans entrant - if they can’t join the women’s category, they’re not interested. Can’t imagine why 🙄

I’m fine with being called a TERF. No shame in it at all.

We're not seeing a "backlash"
They've peaked in popularity, in turn, they've peaked the rest of the world which has become entirely disinterested in pandering to them, or their dramatics.

So now they're very annoyed.

Shame.

Agree with this especially the first paragraph.

While women’s and girls spaces, places in sport, dignity and boundaries remain threatened (and for me even if it was just one woman that’s too manyl) I don’t have a problem with trans women but I bloody have a big issue with those in that population who continue to behave like they do. And threatening women with rape and death when we dare voice challenge.

This isn’t a race to the bottom but when time and energy to stand up for others is scarce I shall continue to prioritise the rights of biological women over men everyday of the week.

The Transwomen I know are fairly quiet and getting on with their lives BUT they still expect you to validate them as real women, which of course they aren’t.

I tend to stay mute when H talks about knowing what it feels like being a woman because s/he has too many mutual friends who are happy to support his delusions and I don’t want to be ostracised. 😳

The thing is many of us did try to support them campaigning for 3rd spaces and in return for our kind offer of help we were labelled Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists ie TERFs.
Transwomen dont want 3rd spaces or to use the men's they want access to the unconsenting women in women's spaces for the validation and other more unsavoury purposes

I just call them cross dressers and transvestites. Everyone understands those terms and they are accurate.

How infuriating that one malicious man is causing so much harm.

Of course it is. That’s why it’s not allowed in some arenas (including on here up to a couple of years ago).
They much prefer to keep it all as opaque (and murky!) as possible.

Well this back lash against trans women is worrying isn't it? Biological women doxing them, threatening them with rape and violence, even death threats, you can't blame them being scared and upset, oh no wait.......

I don't pay particular attention to which is used, tbh. But I do wish that the term "transwomen"/"trans women" had never been thought of, because it does suggest that they are a kind of woman and there are many people who are still getting misled by this. "Trans-identifying males" is much more accurate.

Exactly. It’s a male problem, to be resolved by males.

Some men are indeed vulnerable. That doesn't mean they have the right to use women's facilities. Why would it?

It's transwoman not trans woman. They're not any sort of woman.

@SamphiretheTervosaur bloody hell they're completely vindictive.

Ah, let's tick that off the bingo card ("you don't know any trans people and would think differently if you did"). I do know some transwomen, and while I don't feel in any physical threat from them, being expected to lie and call them "she" does me great damage. Watching them use women's toilets pisses me off no end too.

Any male who enters a female single sex space is a sexually predatory male who is not only disadvantaging women but sexually harassing them just by being there so all who use or try to use female single sex spaces

Honestly, I don't care whether they bite or not. I don't want men (however identified) in our spaces and sports.

As the UK population ages, more and more people are willing to tell the truth about what they can see.

You’re worryingly ignorant: it’s you that needs to find out a little bit more about the reality. ‘Harm’ doesn’t just mean rape and kill. It can mean to take opportunities and promotions and scholarships designed for women. It can mean shoving them down the pecking order in competitive sport. It can mean making them feel unsafe or uncomfortable when using the toilet or undressing. It can mean bullying them verbally or having them hassled at work for failing to comply with their belief that they’ve become the opposite sex.

That ‘tiny minority’ you speak of isn’t what the massively overrepresented number of ‘trans women’ sex offenders and violent offenders in the UK prison population is currently telling us. These men commit crimes against women at a higher rate than men who don’t identify as trans. An enormous proportion of that ‘tiny minority’ are actively causing harm to women - whether that’s harm that’s serious enough to warrant imprisonment or other types of harmful impact that I listed earlier.

The problem isn’t trans people existing or getting on with their lives quietly. Very few people have an issue with that as it barely impacts them. The problem is a ‘tiny minority’ of men - it’s men, not trans-identifying women causing the problems - using their trans identity to take women’s hard-fought concessions and accommodations away from them. For example, women have been underrepresented in computing jobs for years. Now, firms fill posts with men who identify as women and view that as a real boost for women. It’s not. I’m tired of well meaning people dumbly parroting that ‘rights aren’t pie.’ Yes, women’s rights are. Because if you take a woman’s job or sporting award or scholarship and give it to a man, women lose out. If you put a man in a shelter for women, every woman in there may lose their feeling of safety to accommodate that single man.

Trans activists are some of the most selfish people I’ve ever encountered. Blame them for taking liberties with our good will, not women for putting their foot down.

Same I used to a trans ally of a friend until they became very toxic and kept sharing toxic views against women and poor people … also used to engage in risky behaviours