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Husband not been paying tax for years

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Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 09:41

I'm so worried and scared. Over a year ago two debt collectors came to our door and handed me a letter addressed to my husband. I opened it and it said we owed approx £500k to the taxman. I nearly collapsed.

When my husband came home I confronted him and he basically broke down saying he hadn't been paying tax on his Ltd company for about 5 years. He'd liquidised his company without my knowledge and taken me off as Company Secretary presumably so I wouldn't find out and to extricate me from any financial liability. We had to get a tax lawyer to negotiate on our behalf with the debt collectors and after many months of wrangling, my husband told me it was £64k we owed which we could put our savings towards and also set up a direct debit and pay the rest monthly.

Fast forward a year, I had two debt collectors standing at my front door. It turns out my husband has been lying about the amount owed...it's in actual fact £150k. I'm horrified, my heart's racing as I'm writing this. He told me over the phone he'd used £30k of our son's trust fund money towards it. He told me he's incapable of saying no to me (?!) and he knows he's got emotional problems.

I don't understand any of this...I'm in my 50s, yes, I like nice things (who doesn't) but never overspent in terms of the money that's in our account and was surplus after all bills are paid. He didn't come home last night, he's too ashamed and embarrassed and keeps telling me he's no good and I deserve better. I've been with this man for over 30 years and can't imagine life without him, although I massively resent him at this point.

I found out he'd taken his watch (a present for his 50th) to a pawnbroker to get a £1,500 per loan against the watch. He said it was to pay off the rest owed to the tax lawyer. I asked (shouted) why the hell did he not come to me as I'd managed to put some money aside. Again, he was too embarrassed and said he just wanted it sorted and out the way. I ended up giving him over £2k to get the watch back.

I'm worried sick. How on earth do I deal with this without knowing whether he's lying or not? I don't have access to his business account because I'm not company secretary. I have access to everything else (I think?).

I'm mostly disgusted at my son's trust fund. He's 21, and it was meant to be for a down payment on a flat at some point. Now there's nothing. My son's now aware of this and thinks I should leave his dad as he can't be trusted. What do you think? Any advice would be extremely welcome.

OP posts:
ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 18/09/2025 17:00

Crushed23 · 18/09/2025 16:01

Apparently the 8-bedroom house is only worth £400k with £100k left on the mortgage (per OP’s earlier post). Is £300k enough to pay back £150k of tax debt and buy a small house?

How can such a huge house be worth so little? Surely it will be worth nearly a million if it is so huge? 😮

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 16:58

Yeah I must admit, the rehab might’ve cost more than the Porsche 🫣

Bruisername · 18/09/2025 16:57

NaiceHazelHare · 18/09/2025 16:55

Oh lol I must’ve missed that part! Bizarre.

No she said they had 300k equity and 100k left

i I think she based that on purchase tbh - the house could be a lot more now

cant believe her mum paid for the rehab! I’m not surprised your sister is snooty with you as you’ve clearly been living beyond your means for years

NaiceHazelHare · 18/09/2025 16:55

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 16:50

Did you read the thread? It’s worth £400k 😂😂

Oh lol I must’ve missed that part! Bizarre.

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 16:50

NaiceHazelHare · 18/09/2025 16:46

True to a certain extent, but heating, maintenance, council tax, gardening etc can’t be cheap for an 8-bed period property with big rooms!

Guess it depends what it’s worth - is it £1m of house or £2.5m…? If the latter, definitely worth selling up to release equity. If the former, then stamp duty might eat into the equity you release.

Did you read the thread? It’s worth £400k 😂😂

NaiceHazelHare · 18/09/2025 16:46

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 16:42

This post doesn’t make any sense. They’ve only got £100k mortgage. It doesn’t matter what size the house is if the mortgage is so small does it?

of course they can sell the house releasing the equity to pay off the debt. But that doesn’t actually impact the cost of their living the expenses, unless they end up needing to take out another mortgage or pay rent.

True to a certain extent, but heating, maintenance, council tax, gardening etc can’t be cheap for an 8-bed period property with big rooms!

Guess it depends what it’s worth - is it £1m of house or £2.5m…? If the latter, definitely worth selling up to release equity. If the former, then stamp duty might eat into the equity you release.

MissMoneyFairy · 18/09/2025 16:46

What job does he do now that's earning 130k. Does he pay tax on those earnings. You need to sell the house and downsize, your son may want to move out anyway. Sell the porch, get a job and both start taking the responsibility of paying back the debt.

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 16:45

sandyhappypeople · 18/09/2025 16:44

He earns £130k a year and your mortgage is £100k, yet he has had to pawn a watch to pay some expenses? It's not adding up at all!

You need to ask to see bank statements OP, where are all his wages going? It should be around £7000 a month? Why is he so broke, THAT is the question you need to be asking.

Because he’s trying to pay HMRC back a massive payment plan? Plus trying to pay the tax lawyer according to op. It all makes perfect sense, these are substantial commitments

YourLemonTiger · 18/09/2025 16:45

Holidaytimeyay · 18/09/2025 14:43

I think it must depend if it just a bank account held in trust for child or a proper trust fund. I have just removed the money from my child’s bank account held in trust by me for them and closed it down. DC was happy with this and made aware of it as I will transfer money to them (they are an adult) but I didn’t need to get their permission.

Ah, I see. I was thinking of the government trust fund accounts which I don't think even exist anymore.

sandyhappypeople · 18/09/2025 16:44

He earns £130k a year and your mortgage is £100k, yet he has had to pawn a watch to pay some expenses? It's not adding up at all!

You need to ask to see bank statements OP, where are all his wages going? It should be around £7000 a month? Why is he so broke, THAT is the question you need to be asking.

DressOrSkirt · 18/09/2025 16:42

ladybirdsanchez · 18/09/2025 14:05

Oh come on OP. Most of us do all that AND have a job!! You have a nice easy life and I know that because I was a SAHM myself for a while. It's a breeze compared with working.

Well her husband didn't, the same as lots of men!

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 16:42

NaiceHazelHare · 18/09/2025 16:40

If he’s earning £130k, his take home is £6.5k per month (after paying income tax, NI, pension etc)!!

This really isn’t mansion and Porsche money if he’s supporting a family. Sorry OP but even if you didn’t have the debt, you’d need a big lifestyle change. You’re also going to be paying off mega debt, so really need to cut back.

Think outside of London in a nice-ish but not super posh area, 3 bed Victorian terrace house, small garden, one small car. This is what you should be planning for.

This post doesn’t make any sense. They’ve only got £100k mortgage. It doesn’t matter what size the house is if the mortgage is so small does it?

of course they can sell the house releasing the equity to pay off the debt. But that doesn’t actually impact the cost of their living the expenses, unless they end up needing to take out another mortgage or pay rent.

NaiceHazelHare · 18/09/2025 16:40

If he’s earning £130k, his take home is £6.5k per month (after paying income tax, NI, pension etc)!!

This really isn’t mansion and Porsche money if he’s supporting a family. Sorry OP but even if you didn’t have the debt, you’d need a big lifestyle change. You’re also going to be paying off mega debt, so really need to cut back.

Think outside of London in a nice-ish but not super posh area, 3 bed Victorian terrace house, small garden, one small car. This is what you should be planning for.

CopperWhite · 18/09/2025 16:39

Getting into unmanageable debt is forgivable. The betrayal of your son is not.

Sell the house, move further north, sell the Porsche, pay the tax and give your son back his savings fund.

Bruisername · 18/09/2025 16:32

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 16:29

I agree with this. Absolutely noone should feel suicidal due to tax debt but it’s not only common, it actually happens.

it is only money and it can be sorted. He’s at increased risk of psychosis and stroke/ heart attack from the stress.

Agreed - Yang this is a situation they can get out of so focus on the positives with him

you should never get involved with a financial or tax scheme you don’t understand. If it sounds too good to be true then it most likely is!

although in this case it obviously wasn’t a scheme

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 16:29

DBD1975 · 18/09/2025 16:15

Please be careful OP, I am concerned your husband's mental health could be at risk and he could end up doing something on impulse which cannot be reversed and have devastating consequences.
Tell him to come home and you will sort it out together, at the end of the day it is only money and it can be sorted.

I agree with this. Absolutely noone should feel suicidal due to tax debt but it’s not only common, it actually happens.

it is only money and it can be sorted. He’s at increased risk of psychosis and stroke/ heart attack from the stress.

Fluffypotatoe123987 · 18/09/2025 16:22

Bankruptcy? Iva?

Tubestrike · 18/09/2025 16:20

BeltaLodaLife · 18/09/2025 16:01

@Shitsinthepost77
Did you ever pay back the money you spent on drugs? That was family money that you stole for drugs. Did you not get a job to pay that back?

Your mum had to pay for rehab so that means that you and your husband didn’t have the money… so you spend all the money he earns and didn’t save anything. And you’re wondering why he stopped paying tax? Maybe from trying to fund your lifestyle.

Rehab is expensive isn't it ? Op and her husband have been living way above their means for years , happy to accept money from her mother who now needs her savings to survive.

NewDayNewColour · 18/09/2025 16:19

LTB then you are safe from this absolute tosser

DBD1975 · 18/09/2025 16:15

Please be careful OP, I am concerned your husband's mental health could be at risk and he could end up doing something on impulse which cannot be reversed and have devastating consequences.
Tell him to come home and you will sort it out together, at the end of the day it is only money and it can be sorted.

Bruisername · 18/09/2025 16:14

Crushed23 · 18/09/2025 16:01

Apparently the 8-bedroom house is only worth £400k with £100k left on the mortgage (per OP’s earlier post). Is £300k enough to pay back £150k of tax debt and buy a small house?

If it’s not enough to buy a house then they will have to rent

i I can’t decide if this is a thread to counter the benefit cheat ones and prove every part of society is ripping off the state tbh!!

ReadingSoManyThreads · 18/09/2025 16:11

PropertyD · 18/09/2025 16:02

Is this a serious thread. £130k, wife not working and a 8 bedroom house and a flashy car? Really?

You can buy 8 bedroom houses for not a great deal in some parts of the UK, you know! We looked at buying one for about £120K a decade ago!

They need to sell the car, and the OP needs to get a job, but I don't see why you're doubting this is a serious thread.

isitmyturn · 18/09/2025 16:08

An 8 bed house anywhere in the UK would raise enough money to pay the debt and still have enough left for a very nice house.
If it's not mortgaged you could raise a mortgage over ten years to get the money, then sell.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 18/09/2025 16:08

@Shitsinthepost77 what kind of jobs have you been applying for? Ones that you did previously? If so, I can understand why you don't get interviews due to your long career break. So, if I were you, I'd look at doing one or more of the following:

  1. Self-employed housekeeper or cleaner
  2. Turn 3 or 4 of your bedrooms at home into B&B, for the loaded oil industry people that come to the area
  3. Supermarket - some such as Lidl pay more than minimum wage
  4. McDonalds - again, pays more than minimum wage
  5. There is hospitality, but will be hard to earn about minimum wage, departments such as housekeeping
  6. Exam invigilator (only twice a year though, so you'd need other employment too)

If you're earning money again, albeit a small amount (£20-30K), you can start to replenish your son's trust fund as well as some of your household bills, while your DH concentrates on aggressively paying down the debt. Your DH will need to be fully transparent from here on in and SHOW you everything, you need to see that his company's money IS actually paying the debt down. No more putting his head in the sand. You CAN get through this together, but he needs to be open and honest. Try watching some Dave Ramsey youtube videos, there are plenty there on paying off this level of debt. If you BOTH work hard at it, you could probably get it paid off within 2 years BUT I know HMRC usually won't wait for their money, so obviously your solicitor can give you the deadline. Get rid of the bloody Porche and every penny from it's sale can go towards that debt.

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 16:06

Crushed23 · 18/09/2025 16:01

Apparently the 8-bedroom house is only worth £400k with £100k left on the mortgage (per OP’s earlier post). Is £300k enough to pay back £150k of tax debt and buy a small house?

A charge on the house would make more sense. Surprised this hasn’t already happened

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