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Husband not been paying tax for years

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Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 09:41

I'm so worried and scared. Over a year ago two debt collectors came to our door and handed me a letter addressed to my husband. I opened it and it said we owed approx £500k to the taxman. I nearly collapsed.

When my husband came home I confronted him and he basically broke down saying he hadn't been paying tax on his Ltd company for about 5 years. He'd liquidised his company without my knowledge and taken me off as Company Secretary presumably so I wouldn't find out and to extricate me from any financial liability. We had to get a tax lawyer to negotiate on our behalf with the debt collectors and after many months of wrangling, my husband told me it was £64k we owed which we could put our savings towards and also set up a direct debit and pay the rest monthly.

Fast forward a year, I had two debt collectors standing at my front door. It turns out my husband has been lying about the amount owed...it's in actual fact £150k. I'm horrified, my heart's racing as I'm writing this. He told me over the phone he'd used £30k of our son's trust fund money towards it. He told me he's incapable of saying no to me (?!) and he knows he's got emotional problems.

I don't understand any of this...I'm in my 50s, yes, I like nice things (who doesn't) but never overspent in terms of the money that's in our account and was surplus after all bills are paid. He didn't come home last night, he's too ashamed and embarrassed and keeps telling me he's no good and I deserve better. I've been with this man for over 30 years and can't imagine life without him, although I massively resent him at this point.

I found out he'd taken his watch (a present for his 50th) to a pawnbroker to get a £1,500 per loan against the watch. He said it was to pay off the rest owed to the tax lawyer. I asked (shouted) why the hell did he not come to me as I'd managed to put some money aside. Again, he was too embarrassed and said he just wanted it sorted and out the way. I ended up giving him over £2k to get the watch back.

I'm worried sick. How on earth do I deal with this without knowing whether he's lying or not? I don't have access to his business account because I'm not company secretary. I have access to everything else (I think?).

I'm mostly disgusted at my son's trust fund. He's 21, and it was meant to be for a down payment on a flat at some point. Now there's nothing. My son's now aware of this and thinks I should leave his dad as he can't be trusted. What do you think? Any advice would be extremely welcome.

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Umbrellasinthesunshine · 18/09/2025 19:08

Hmm, sounds like a shocking situation to be in OP. If I were you I’d set up a cleaning business and get advertising locally. Where I live any new cleaner who is good gets a full list within a matter of weeks. You at least have experience with that and wouldn’t have to wait for someone else to hire you when you , by your own admission, have a scant CV. I’m not being flippant, I have done this in a time when we were skint and it saved our bacon. It would certainly pay more than a TA job and you could get it going in a matter of days. Time to take back control of your own earning potential. Regarding the other stuff - there are lots of previous posters with great advice about the legal / accountancy side of things. The real problem is that you can’t trust anything he says right now and full disclosure is the only option. Gone are the days of taking his word for it. And no matter how much you love him, these lies may be beyond what any relationship can survive.

Toooldtopretend · 18/09/2025 19:02

I’ve not read all the thread but was he a sole trader or a limited company? The numbers aren’t adding up at all and if it was a limited company that went into liquidation, the tax debt would be in that entity. He needs some proper advice.

Bruisername · 18/09/2025 18:44

BunnyLake · 18/09/2025 18:39

Leave him. You can't stay with someone this untrustworthy. Even your son can see that. You’ll never have peace of mind again if you stay.

But can’t you say the same of OP who hid a drug addiction for a long time and led to financial issues

if it is a strong marriage and they have both been untrustworthy then aren’t they the best to support each other!!

BunnyLake · 18/09/2025 18:39

Leave him. You can't stay with someone this untrustworthy. Even your son can see that. You’ll never have peace of mind again if you stay.

KTSl1964 · 18/09/2025 18:37

Are you sure he's not using prostitute -or any other addictions - you really need to see all his bank statements from him - you would be naive not too given the crisis you are in - he's clearly very capable of lying straight to your face.

WorstInvite · 18/09/2025 18:33

I have a suspicion that OP will never work. She will be particular about what work she will do and turn her nose down at most minimum wage jobs. I don’t think the drive is there.

LunchtimeNaps · 18/09/2025 18:32

twistyizzy · 18/09/2025 10:43

Yet another reminder of why it's important for women to never give up their career or financial independence.

This 100% and always be aware of the family finances. Being a kept woman and being left in the dark is massively naive.

Gettingbysomehow · 18/09/2025 18:30

If that was me I'd leave this marriage ASAP. Your husband is a compulsive liar. He has ripped his family's future away and is incapable of telling the truth. That would be a deal breaker for me. You need to get back your share of the house and get a job or you will retire with nothing. The debt collectors will have the whole house if you stay with him.

Sodukuchess · 18/09/2025 18:22

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 14:13

But he's not like that. I know the kind of men you mean....for the record, I never knowingly lived as a fraudster....

No but he did. If you're willing to now stay with him that makes you just as bad particularly as it's obvious he'll never change.

Why the heck are you prioritising getting a watch back when you need to prioritise getting the house on the market and leaving the prick. With an 8 bed house sold you'd presumably have enough to pay off the debts and each buy a small house/flat post divorce.

I don't understand why you haven't worked for 20+ years.

MissMoneyFairy · 18/09/2025 17:58

Does your mum know that you spent her money on rehab.

Bruisername · 18/09/2025 17:53

I think the problem is that OP isn’t very responsible with money. The fact they have 300k minimum equity and yet she put asking family as an option

andthat · 18/09/2025 17:50

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 12:34

The trust fund was set up when our son was a baby. We paid into it every month. HMRC (through the debt collectors) initially wanted £500k which the tax lawyers explained was nonsense and it was reduced to £150k. That's the final settlement agreed by both parties. I honestly never demanded certain material things because I could see the same amount going into our accounts and that was what we had to either spend or save. Or at least, what i thought we had. My husband (as far as I was aware) paid tax via his business account which i don't have access to. Yes, I should have pushed to see this but I genuinely (until a year ago) thought anything was amiss. All bills were getting paid, apart from the tax as it turns out. It has taken nearly 7 months of wrangling between our lawyers and the debt collectors to reduce £500k (which was ridiculous) to the actual sum of £150k now owed. I'm obviously horrified by all this. I loathe debt. When I was on all those pills I was in the grip of a horrendous addiction cycle and got no help from the doctors. It was hellish. There are no words for the shame and embarrassment I felt and still feel. It never leaves you. Trust me, addiction can strike anyone irrespective of your background. I didn't know which way was up but fought hard to get off them. I don't drink, I've never enjoyed alcohol and could never get past one glass without feeling sick...though strangely not like that with codeine. I have worked in the past btw...at an accountancy firm and then a lawyers. I gave up my job to move to the Middle East when my son was a baby through my husband's work in the oil industry. I've applied for jobs but either don't get called for interview or haven't been successful when I have. I am very articulate, well dressed and look very smart. But again, with money I thought I had....I'm mostly pissed off re my son's trust fund. That's really hard to take. I adore my boy, we're very close and I'm very open with him. He knows everything, I mean everything.

@Shitsinthepost77 you are where you are.

You say you’ve got equity in the house, so the practical issue of dealing with the debt is sorted. You are ‘lucky’ that you can remortgage.

Next you need to put all domestic finances in your name and manage them, including the house. If your husband has an issue with money then you need to protect your remaining assets. I’d tell your husband that you want a forensic accountant to look into your financial affairs as his lying means you can’t trust there isn’t more to come.

Then you need a plan to make sure this doesn’t happen again. What is he going to do to address his issues? What are you going to do to ensure you’ve got a grip on financial matters?

Good to see you are looking for work…that will help give you some financial independence.

As for your son… stop telling him everything, you are burdening him with your marital issues and that is not fair.

Edited to add, if your husband has a pension, I’d check he hasn’t blown that as well…

DontStopMeNowGoodTime · 18/09/2025 17:41

Has any of the tax been paid back since last year?
Was that a typo or do you have an 8 bed apartment? If so, the solution is to sell and downsize. Tbh i don't understand your or his reaction, for the amount he earns and the assets you have, it's not really a huge sum and can be paid back.
With your DH's reaction I would be very concerned there is more dept you are not aware of.

Crazyworldmum · 18/09/2025 17:35

Espressosummer · 18/09/2025 15:57

And she used his money to fund her drug habit for 6 years. If she paid that back he would have enough to pay the son back plus at less a third of the hmrc debt but maybe even half. Instead she chooses to remain unemployed.

I can’t find this . Where is it ?

anytipswelcome · 18/09/2025 17:34

Crushed23 · 18/09/2025 16:01

Apparently the 8-bedroom house is only worth £400k with £100k left on the mortgage (per OP’s earlier post). Is £300k enough to pay back £150k of tax debt and buy a small house?

If they really live somewhere an 8 bed detached home is £400k then I reckon they could get a 2 bed terrace, semi or flat relatively nearby for not too much more than £150k, surely? Or at least pay a whacking great deposit and get a mortgage for say £50k…

SALaw · 18/09/2025 17:23

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 14:02

No, trust me, there is no 'poor me'. My husband took my name off as Company Secretary many years ago without my knowledge. But yes, I've been naive. I don't think he was 'carrying me'. We worked as a family unit and never had to lift a finger round the house. I always (still do) kept the house to a high standard. I'm also always on hand for my elderly parents and do my best. This is a great forum, because it helps unravel thoughts and feelings. I'm still pissed off tho.

So were you still, as far as you were concerned, fulfilling your company secretary duties? Were you making annual accounts and confirmation statement filings? If so how did you not see you had been removed? If not, why not?

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 17:22

LidlAmaretto · 18/09/2025 17:17

Yes I was just answering your question. I thought you were asking why it was important if the husband is now working as a sole trader. Sorry if that's not what you meant. I only read the OPs posts as its a long thread

Well I asked why you thought it was important enough to post that it was a very important point ? The company is now liquidated

Words · 18/09/2025 17:20

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LidlAmaretto · 18/09/2025 17:17

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 14:29

This has all been covered previously in the thread and it’s also clear what the situation with OPs husband was

Yes I was just answering your question. I thought you were asking why it was important if the husband is now working as a sole trader. Sorry if that's not what you meant. I only read the OPs posts as its a long thread

SALaw · 18/09/2025 17:15

That money couldn’t have been in a trust fund if he has managed to take it. Unless he has managed to do so fraudulently.

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 17:07

sandyhappypeople · 18/09/2025 17:03

But that is only in the last year since it was uncovered, so the question still stands.. £100k mortgage, £130k a year job, not paying his tax liabilities for the last 5 years...

WHERE HAS ALL THE MONEY BEEN GOING?

OP really needs to insist on seeing bank statements IMO, non negotiable.

They’ve been spending money they don’t have. He hasn’t paid tax for 5 years. OP describes £1k a month pills habit, they put £30k in a fund for their child. It’s probably all sorts. I don’t think it’s necessarily scandalous, living beyond your means adds up and sounds like they’ve treated themselves to some nice things.

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 17:06

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 18/09/2025 17:00

Just seen it's £300k equity. Ignore me lol

My SIL has a massive house in Blackpool - worth maybe slightly less than £400k. It used to be a small hotel/ guesthouse.

Whatislife73 · 18/09/2025 17:04

NaiceHazelHare · 18/09/2025 16:55

Oh lol I must’ve missed that part! Bizarre.

400 for an 8 bed house, where do you live! 400k here is a small terrace 😭😭😭

sandyhappypeople · 18/09/2025 17:03

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 16:45

Because he’s trying to pay HMRC back a massive payment plan? Plus trying to pay the tax lawyer according to op. It all makes perfect sense, these are substantial commitments

But that is only in the last year since it was uncovered, so the question still stands.. £100k mortgage, £130k a year job, not paying his tax liabilities for the last 5 years...

WHERE HAS ALL THE MONEY BEEN GOING?

OP really needs to insist on seeing bank statements IMO, non negotiable.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 18/09/2025 17:00

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 18/09/2025 17:00

How can such a huge house be worth so little? Surely it will be worth nearly a million if it is so huge? 😮

Just seen it's £300k equity. Ignore me lol

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