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Husband not been paying tax for years

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Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 09:41

I'm so worried and scared. Over a year ago two debt collectors came to our door and handed me a letter addressed to my husband. I opened it and it said we owed approx £500k to the taxman. I nearly collapsed.

When my husband came home I confronted him and he basically broke down saying he hadn't been paying tax on his Ltd company for about 5 years. He'd liquidised his company without my knowledge and taken me off as Company Secretary presumably so I wouldn't find out and to extricate me from any financial liability. We had to get a tax lawyer to negotiate on our behalf with the debt collectors and after many months of wrangling, my husband told me it was £64k we owed which we could put our savings towards and also set up a direct debit and pay the rest monthly.

Fast forward a year, I had two debt collectors standing at my front door. It turns out my husband has been lying about the amount owed...it's in actual fact £150k. I'm horrified, my heart's racing as I'm writing this. He told me over the phone he'd used £30k of our son's trust fund money towards it. He told me he's incapable of saying no to me (?!) and he knows he's got emotional problems.

I don't understand any of this...I'm in my 50s, yes, I like nice things (who doesn't) but never overspent in terms of the money that's in our account and was surplus after all bills are paid. He didn't come home last night, he's too ashamed and embarrassed and keeps telling me he's no good and I deserve better. I've been with this man for over 30 years and can't imagine life without him, although I massively resent him at this point.

I found out he'd taken his watch (a present for his 50th) to a pawnbroker to get a £1,500 per loan against the watch. He said it was to pay off the rest owed to the tax lawyer. I asked (shouted) why the hell did he not come to me as I'd managed to put some money aside. Again, he was too embarrassed and said he just wanted it sorted and out the way. I ended up giving him over £2k to get the watch back.

I'm worried sick. How on earth do I deal with this without knowing whether he's lying or not? I don't have access to his business account because I'm not company secretary. I have access to everything else (I think?).

I'm mostly disgusted at my son's trust fund. He's 21, and it was meant to be for a down payment on a flat at some point. Now there's nothing. My son's now aware of this and thinks I should leave his dad as he can't be trusted. What do you think? Any advice would be extremely welcome.

OP posts:
ljHCBCKS · 18/09/2025 12:49

PinkFrogss · 18/09/2025 09:50

To owe that amount of tax he must have been making a lot of money. I’d be wanting to know exactly where that’s gone, gambling or another addiction?

Not necessarily. Depends on the business. You can wrack up huge HMRC bills on VAT an NI without making a penny in profit.

Trendyname · 18/09/2025 12:49

N0Tfunny · 18/09/2025 11:51

This is an excellent post, please read it very carefully Op. I was married to ( and in business with ) a man just like your Hisband . Over the years we were together I scrimped and scraped as we weren’t making much profit .

When the shit hit the fan and I found out he was cheating, I divorced him. It turned out he had taken £600,000 out of company and given it to his mistress and out some in gold. We owe so much to HMRC and another party, even 3 years post divorce I will end up losing my house over it.

Don’t believe a word your husband says, or the tears. Divorce him now. Ask for all the full compant accounts going back since yYOU married and take them to an acountant. The full accounts not just the summary you can see online .

Ask him for access to the company banking system online.

I don’t agree with the poster above. They have done their analysis without reading OP’s updates.

No empathy? He was supporting op during her addiction and when she couldn’t follow through plans to come off it.

mbosnz · 18/09/2025 12:49

You are in a very similar situation to the one my MIL was in.

She divorced FIL. Even so, for years after, friends and family were telling her of FIL's frauds against them, and how he'd borrow money off them, never to pay it off. We ourselves had a $5,000 overdraft he pressured us to take out to save the business, that he promised to pay back, and never did, as well as $3,000 inheritance in a trust account that he could access, that he took.

His son went guarantor on a house mortgage for them, and lost his own house, and his marriage as a result.

She ended up with absolutely nothing, and living with her daughter.

To this day he insists he did nothing wrong, that he gave his family everything, and that they have no right, no reason, not to talk to him.

Please, whatever you do, do not blame yourself for not knowing what he has done, or not done, and do not allow him to make you feel guilty or complicit for his actions.

Take legal advice, and do your best to find out what he has done in your name, or forged your signature to.

Do your best to protect yourself, and your children, and do not allow yourself to be used as a shield by your husband as he seeks to protect himself from the consequences of his actions.

BMW6 · 18/09/2025 12:49

So sell the Porche at an irresistible price immediately and get a cheap second hand small car.

twistyizzy · 18/09/2025 12:48

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 12:45

Yes we could downsize...it's an eight apartment house in a nice area. And before many of you go ballistic we drive a Porsche....BUT with money I thought we had! And no, it was the husband that suggested a Porsche in the first place.

Sell the car
Sell the house + downsize
Get a job

pinkdelight · 18/09/2025 12:47

I've applied for jobs but either don't get called for interview or haven't been successful when I have. I am very articulate, well dressed and look very smart.

I can see this if you're still applying for the same kind of roles in accountants and lawyers offices etc but you need to go much wider now given your lack of recent experience and target the jobs that are always available and don't necessarily need you to be very articulate and smart looking. Cast the net much much wider and you will get work.

Motnight · 18/09/2025 12:46

twistyizzy · 18/09/2025 12:39

Bollocks. I am very late 40s so only few years younger than OP and none of my peers were SAHM's.

Agree! I am in my 60s and all my peers have worked for much of their lives bar 1 or 2. The part of the NHS I am employed in is full of women in their 50s and 60s. Most of my friends' mothers worked too when their kids were young.

Absolutely nothing wrong with being a SAHM but let's not re-write history around it.

FallingIntoAutumn · 18/09/2025 12:46

nothing is not solvable. It’s just going to feel that way. And my first thought was concern for his health right now.
I’ve assumed your husband is employed now?
you’ll be able to remortgage, with the mortgage running until your 70. The other option is to downsize if that’s possible.
id also be including your sons 30k debt in whatever you decide to do.

if you love him this doesn’t have to be the end of the but he needs to work with you right now to solve this.

OldieButBaddie · 18/09/2025 12:45

twistyizzy · 18/09/2025 12:39

Bollocks. I am very late 40s so only few years younger than OP and none of my peers were SAHM's.

I am nearly 59 and I don't know any SAHMs of my age!

TrickyD · 18/09/2025 12:45

I thought I had been following all this attentively, but the sudden appearance of ‘our surplus money’ has confused me.

Boomer55 · 18/09/2025 12:45

onlymethen · 18/09/2025 11:15

There are so many people on here saying leave him. I don’t agree I’m a similar age and also have been married over 30 years if my husband created this situation I wouldn’t just stop loving him, we’d work through it together and take things from there. Good luck to you all and I hope your future is filled with peace.

Yes, and me. I’d get joint legal and financial advice and sort it out together. OP has never worked, so I’d at least try and sort it out.

Debt stress can make liars of anyone.

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 12:45

Yes we could downsize...it's an eight apartment house in a nice area. And before many of you go ballistic we drive a Porsche....BUT with money I thought we had! And no, it was the husband that suggested a Porsche in the first place.

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Imhereagainseriously · 18/09/2025 12:45

drivinmecrazy · 18/09/2025 12:31

I feel for OP. Thankfully never been in the situation that they have found themselves in though.

But comments regarding they themselves not working was and is relatively common with women in their mid fifties. Of which I am one.

we were the last trance of women with whom it was more common to be a SAHM and then found ourselves put out to pasture. So a little bit unfair to berate someone of whom there are many.

had I had the opportunity again I would have done things so differently.

but we are were we are, whoever we are.

I love that women now know their worth in terms of careers and employability. But it wasn’t as cut and dried 25 years ago

Really I'm 58 I work my Mother worked full time I dont know a single women my age who doesn't work.

WannabeMathematician · 18/09/2025 12:45

If that fund was a proper trust fund, with all the legalities associated with the set up your husband had commit theft and fraud and could go to prison. Are you sure it's a trust fund not just an account in your names?

BMW6 · 18/09/2025 12:44

Well really the Trust Fund wasn't your sons - it was funded by money that should have been paid in tax! If your taxes had been paid there wouldn't have been any left to pay into the Trust!

You COULD get a job OP, you are articulate and physically able so go round the supermarkets in your vicinity and ask if there are any vacancies for anything.

Your DH stood by you during your addiction which hit him financially and emotionally.

Your turn to stand up and be counted I think. Be proactive. Take control of the finances and GET A JOB, ANY JOB.

Or sell your house, pay off all the tax and buy a little cheap property to live in.

I'm another who's aghast and pretty disgusted that you even thought of borrowing from family.

Nestingbirds · 18/09/2025 12:44

You have been incredibly honest on here. Ignore the addiction posts, they obviously know nothing about it. It’s so easy to get hooked on them, and doctors were not as careful as they are today, nor was there any support to help people. It’s ruined the lives of so many and thankfully you aren’t one of them op.

This is a major blow, but I agree your dh appears to love you and has done this with good intentions. The motive is important here. He has strived to keep you happy, and tried to contain the unfolding disaster himself.

He needs counselling, and then you both need couples counselling to discuss how the dynamics have affected his judgement and the impact of the loss of trust, you need to get to the bottom of why he did it. Almost certainly conditioning from his childhood.

Get the house valued and consider downsizing so you can pay back you debts and your son, and start again. It is your best chance.

Legal advice individually and maybe just maybe you will be able to get past this in time with conditions that you monitor all finances.

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 12:42

We do have an accountant...set up by me. However, having visited them a few months earlier he's not been dealing with them. Probably because there's no money for the tax. But there is, we just need to reduce our surplus money....if I'd have known and yes, been less passive, it wouldn't have got to this. I genuinely kept asking if there was anything I could do, is everything ok and getting a 'it's all good' every time. This is definitely my fault because i should have pushed nay demanded!

OP posts:
Trendyname · 18/09/2025 12:40

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 09:58

I'm not sure Wegovy2026...possibly about £300k maybe slightly more...still got £100k to pay off on mortgage. The only way to pay this money owed is by remortgaging the house...I don't even know if the bank would do it given our age. We're both mid 50s. My husband earns approx £130k. I don't work. I know, I feel like a pampered, ignorant, useless idiot. Every time I've asked him if everything is OK financially he tells me it is. I've become used to a certain lifestyle but turns out it's based on lies? Does he even love me or has he wanted to give me and our son what he can but has buggered it up by burying his head in the sand? I know our mortgage and bills get paid, he's just not been paying tax on his company. But I know how serious that is. What bothers me is how he can continue telling me lies and live with that on his conscience without having a breakdown....

I've become used to a certain lifestyle

what does that mean? You have said this multiple times.

Does he even love you? I guess he does or else he must have put pressure on you to contribute financially too.
But you don’t say where money was being spent.

Easy for posters to say divorce him without having all the details. I am getting a sense you have expensive taste as you say you are used to certain lifestyle and he was funding it plus maybe his own expensive taste by avoiding taxes.

40YearOldDad · 18/09/2025 12:40

WordsWords3 · 18/09/2025 12:14

It is still not clear how there doesn't seem to be a professional accountant involved in all this

My accountant lets me know how much tax I owe, but they don't force me to pay it.

ScupperedbytheSea · 18/09/2025 12:40

You've identified the solution yourself. Remortgage and pay off the debt. Your default seems to be what other family members can provide, yet it's not clear why they should be the ones to sort this?

Remortgage to state pension age, get a job yourself, and get a laser light focus on family finances and business finances if you want to stay with him.

And go through everything now with an expert to make sure he's not lying any more than he already has.

anyolddinosaur · 18/09/2025 12:39

OP can not fund her life after divorce. Therefore she needs to get a job - any job - immediately. There are few people who are unemployable if they are healthy and willing to take a poorly paid job then look for something better in a few months. That might mean cleaning or care work or McDonalds or a call centre.

Yes she needs to know how bad the debts are but she has contributed to the problems and needs to start paying them down. If she has liked "nice things" maybe she can sell some of them to help pay back a little while she is looking for a job.

Hoppinggreen · 18/09/2025 12:39

Chaosclassic · 18/09/2025 12:36

This. It’s not making much sense to me.

If you owed this much tax then the tax man would have you in court.

If you had been to court surely you know the exact amount.

If Accounts were not filed then certain assumptions about CT and VAT will have been made by HMRC and the true figure might not have been known until this happened, its a huge drop though

twistyizzy · 18/09/2025 12:39

drivinmecrazy · 18/09/2025 12:31

I feel for OP. Thankfully never been in the situation that they have found themselves in though.

But comments regarding they themselves not working was and is relatively common with women in their mid fifties. Of which I am one.

we were the last trance of women with whom it was more common to be a SAHM and then found ourselves put out to pasture. So a little bit unfair to berate someone of whom there are many.

had I had the opportunity again I would have done things so differently.

but we are were we are, whoever we are.

I love that women now know their worth in terms of careers and employability. But it wasn’t as cut and dried 25 years ago

Bollocks. I am very late 40s so only few years younger than OP and none of my peers were SAHM's.

pinkdelight · 18/09/2025 12:38

drivinmecrazy · 18/09/2025 12:31

I feel for OP. Thankfully never been in the situation that they have found themselves in though.

But comments regarding they themselves not working was and is relatively common with women in their mid fifties. Of which I am one.

we were the last trance of women with whom it was more common to be a SAHM and then found ourselves put out to pasture. So a little bit unfair to berate someone of whom there are many.

had I had the opportunity again I would have done things so differently.

but we are were we are, whoever we are.

I love that women now know their worth in terms of careers and employability. But it wasn’t as cut and dried 25 years ago

Have disagree with this. It sounds more like my MILs generation (now aged late 70s). I'm in my 50s, always worked, and it was very normal to keep working and a specific choice couples/women made to be SAHM, because they wanted to not because it was the done thing and they were so passive they could be 'put out to pasture'. Clearly your experience was different but I wouldn't absolve the OP by blaming social mores for this one. She sounds more like she's bought into the WAG of it all, with the comments of liking nice things, fancy watches, 'blonde bimbo' and so on. Sounds like her sister worked and OP could've gone back at any point if she'd wanted to with one DC in school, but it suited her not to and it's still suiting her to be 'unemployable' even though she's really not.

Chaosclassic · 18/09/2025 12:36

ByPeachPeer · 18/09/2025 10:09

This all sounds a little bit suspicious as if it was business debt owed to HMRC and he liquidated the company the debt is usually written off as a result of the liquidation apart from certain debts and in my experience (I work in this industry) it's unusual to have to pay a large amount to HMRC personally. You need to find out exactly what this debt is in relation to and the amount due/who is due to. Ask him to see all correspondence from the insolvency practitioner and HMRC. If you search his company name on companies house you might be able to access reports from the insolvency practitioner which might give you further information. I don't want to scare you but you need to find out these details as if it does go further/he ended up being made bankrupt it could affect your home. I think you need to tell him it's time to be completely honest.

This. It’s not making much sense to me.

If you owed this much tax then the tax man would have you in court.

If you had been to court surely you know the exact amount.