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Husband not been paying tax for years

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Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 09:41

I'm so worried and scared. Over a year ago two debt collectors came to our door and handed me a letter addressed to my husband. I opened it and it said we owed approx £500k to the taxman. I nearly collapsed.

When my husband came home I confronted him and he basically broke down saying he hadn't been paying tax on his Ltd company for about 5 years. He'd liquidised his company without my knowledge and taken me off as Company Secretary presumably so I wouldn't find out and to extricate me from any financial liability. We had to get a tax lawyer to negotiate on our behalf with the debt collectors and after many months of wrangling, my husband told me it was £64k we owed which we could put our savings towards and also set up a direct debit and pay the rest monthly.

Fast forward a year, I had two debt collectors standing at my front door. It turns out my husband has been lying about the amount owed...it's in actual fact £150k. I'm horrified, my heart's racing as I'm writing this. He told me over the phone he'd used £30k of our son's trust fund money towards it. He told me he's incapable of saying no to me (?!) and he knows he's got emotional problems.

I don't understand any of this...I'm in my 50s, yes, I like nice things (who doesn't) but never overspent in terms of the money that's in our account and was surplus after all bills are paid. He didn't come home last night, he's too ashamed and embarrassed and keeps telling me he's no good and I deserve better. I've been with this man for over 30 years and can't imagine life without him, although I massively resent him at this point.

I found out he'd taken his watch (a present for his 50th) to a pawnbroker to get a £1,500 per loan against the watch. He said it was to pay off the rest owed to the tax lawyer. I asked (shouted) why the hell did he not come to me as I'd managed to put some money aside. Again, he was too embarrassed and said he just wanted it sorted and out the way. I ended up giving him over £2k to get the watch back.

I'm worried sick. How on earth do I deal with this without knowing whether he's lying or not? I don't have access to his business account because I'm not company secretary. I have access to everything else (I think?).

I'm mostly disgusted at my son's trust fund. He's 21, and it was meant to be for a down payment on a flat at some point. Now there's nothing. My son's now aware of this and thinks I should leave his dad as he can't be trusted. What do you think? Any advice would be extremely welcome.

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Clearinguptheclutter · 18/09/2025 14:11

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 09:41

I'm so worried and scared. Over a year ago two debt collectors came to our door and handed me a letter addressed to my husband. I opened it and it said we owed approx £500k to the taxman. I nearly collapsed.

When my husband came home I confronted him and he basically broke down saying he hadn't been paying tax on his Ltd company for about 5 years. He'd liquidised his company without my knowledge and taken me off as Company Secretary presumably so I wouldn't find out and to extricate me from any financial liability. We had to get a tax lawyer to negotiate on our behalf with the debt collectors and after many months of wrangling, my husband told me it was £64k we owed which we could put our savings towards and also set up a direct debit and pay the rest monthly.

Fast forward a year, I had two debt collectors standing at my front door. It turns out my husband has been lying about the amount owed...it's in actual fact £150k. I'm horrified, my heart's racing as I'm writing this. He told me over the phone he'd used £30k of our son's trust fund money towards it. He told me he's incapable of saying no to me (?!) and he knows he's got emotional problems.

I don't understand any of this...I'm in my 50s, yes, I like nice things (who doesn't) but never overspent in terms of the money that's in our account and was surplus after all bills are paid. He didn't come home last night, he's too ashamed and embarrassed and keeps telling me he's no good and I deserve better. I've been with this man for over 30 years and can't imagine life without him, although I massively resent him at this point.

I found out he'd taken his watch (a present for his 50th) to a pawnbroker to get a £1,500 per loan against the watch. He said it was to pay off the rest owed to the tax lawyer. I asked (shouted) why the hell did he not come to me as I'd managed to put some money aside. Again, he was too embarrassed and said he just wanted it sorted and out the way. I ended up giving him over £2k to get the watch back.

I'm worried sick. How on earth do I deal with this without knowing whether he's lying or not? I don't have access to his business account because I'm not company secretary. I have access to everything else (I think?).

I'm mostly disgusted at my son's trust fund. He's 21, and it was meant to be for a down payment on a flat at some point. Now there's nothing. My son's now aware of this and thinks I should leave his dad as he can't be trusted. What do you think? Any advice would be extremely welcome.

Im sorry this is absolutely grrounds for divorce. He messed up once, fessed up, you gave him another chance and he's blown it. Listen to your son.

BMW6 · 18/09/2025 14:10

Zempy · 18/09/2025 14:07

Divorce asap

Why?

He stood by OP when she addicted to opioids and burning through 1 to 1.5k pm on pills!

It's her turn to step up and support him.

Fairyladyonwheels · 18/09/2025 14:10

Millionsofmonkeys · 18/09/2025 10:34

It sounds like the two if you have been living some kind of fantasy life where he is the Big I Am and boasts about how his wife doesn't need to work, has watches worth several thousand, and a hefty trust fund for the son....and it was a house of cards.

I feel differently in that your son should never have had 30 or 40k in a trust fund if your family couldn't afford it. Obviously paying taxes should have been prioritised over the illusion of being this wealthy.

If you do want to work (and I think you should), you should probably start by volunteering in a charity shop so you can put something on your CV. I think you should sell the watch, and any other signs of wealth that you simply can't afford (what cars do you drive, for example?) and accept that your lifestyle has been achieved by fraud.

Whether you divorce DH or not - you will have to get used to a much more modest lifestyle.

Wellsaid! Living the high life and taking no responsibility. Living likes fraudsters. You need to get a job and stop living the high life, contact hmrc to sort it out.

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 14:10

Bruisername · 18/09/2025 14:07

Have you made sure there aren’t any other debts?

There will be other debts. OP has said in her post he’s trying to pay off the lawyer.

itll all come out in time OP. Try and ignore the posters trying to police your response

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 14:09

Bruisername · 18/09/2025 14:07

Have you made sure there aren’t any other debts?

Don't know yet

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Chonk · 18/09/2025 14:09

TwelvePercent · 18/09/2025 14:04

You seem very peppy for someone who's DH has just fucked over your son & owes £150k to the tax man.

Probably helped by the fact they have assets which can easily pay the debt off.

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 14:08

ladybirdsanchez · 18/09/2025 14:05

Oh come on OP. Most of us do all that AND have a job!! You have a nice easy life and I know that because I was a SAHM myself for a while. It's a breeze compared with working.

I'm not saying I've not had it easy. I know I've been very lucky, spoiled even. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me. I DON'T feel sorry for me.

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Bruisername · 18/09/2025 14:07

Have you made sure there aren’t any other debts?

Zempy · 18/09/2025 14:07

Divorce asap

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 14:06

That's a perception is it not? I think I've mentioned i feel terrible but I have to be calm, pragmatic and logical about this. I'm not happy in the slightest about any of this. I need to know the full details because I've been completely blind sided.

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ladybirdsanchez · 18/09/2025 14:05

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 14:02

No, trust me, there is no 'poor me'. My husband took my name off as Company Secretary many years ago without my knowledge. But yes, I've been naive. I don't think he was 'carrying me'. We worked as a family unit and never had to lift a finger round the house. I always (still do) kept the house to a high standard. I'm also always on hand for my elderly parents and do my best. This is a great forum, because it helps unravel thoughts and feelings. I'm still pissed off tho.

Oh come on OP. Most of us do all that AND have a job!! You have a nice easy life and I know that because I was a SAHM myself for a while. It's a breeze compared with working.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 18/09/2025 14:04

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 14:00

I understood the clause that life insurance doesn’t pay out of sucide had been ruled illegal years ago- as it should, for being discriminatory

It's still excluded but with a time limit (ie excluded for the first year of a new policy for example).

TwelvePercent · 18/09/2025 14:04

You seem very peppy for someone who's DH has just fucked over your son & owes £150k to the tax man.

sittingonabeach · 18/09/2025 14:02

Was the Trust Fund a real trust fund, or just a separate bank account in your name that you were eventually going to pay to your son? Assume it wasn't the Child Trust Fund started by the Government as he would be the right age for one of those, and you then paid into that

Shitsinthepost77 · 18/09/2025 14:02

No, trust me, there is no 'poor me'. My husband took my name off as Company Secretary many years ago without my knowledge. But yes, I've been naive. I don't think he was 'carrying me'. We worked as a family unit and never had to lift a finger round the house. I always (still do) kept the house to a high standard. I'm also always on hand for my elderly parents and do my best. This is a great forum, because it helps unravel thoughts and feelings. I'm still pissed off tho.

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Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 14:02

Hoppinggreen · 18/09/2025 13:58

I have literally been in a house when one turned up for both company and personal tax.
HMRC have employees who work for DM Field collections

DMBM510150 - Customer contact and data security: introduction: face to face contact - HMRC internal manual - GOV.UK

OP is just saying HRMC and income tax but It could also be VAT. They’re animals.

it could also be the official receiver- they’re animals too.

They do all have debt collectors though- or, at least, people who come round “for a word”

Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 14:00

dementedmummy · 18/09/2025 13:50

Ps. If he commits suicide, the life insurance won't pay out so frankly it is a useless pursuit on so many levels. It may stop the situation getting any worse for him but will leave you well in the shit both emotionally and financially

I understood the clause that life insurance doesn’t pay out of sucide had been ruled illegal years ago- as it should, for being discriminatory

YourNeatPoet · 18/09/2025 14:00

OP, you need to pay HMRC what they are owed, and if that's really £150k and not more, the sale of your house (if you have equity) will cover that. Re the husband, I note that your son has advised you to leave his dad. He must be boiling with rage at having his trust fund raided like that. This is where your emotional energy needs to go... or else you risk estranging him from both of you. There should be enough left from the house sale to restore the money stolen from your son. But I would not even consider staying married to this man until and unless he completely restores things with your son and gains his forgiveness. Don't be going on about 'facing life alone' and 'trusting other men'. Your situation is way beyond that and you need to absolutely pull on your grown-up pants, pay the taxman and pay your son.

Tiswa · 18/09/2025 13:59

SanctusInDistress · 18/09/2025 13:56

Looks like he has an addiction issue - gambling perhaps? Run for the hills or you will end up homeless.

The OP did a painkiller £1000 a month addiction for around 6 years

Hoppinggreen · 18/09/2025 13:59

This is usually via a Field Force/Distraint visit which means a trained officer of HMRC will visit the customers private or business premises to collect payment. If the customer continues to refuse to pay the Field Force/Distraint Officer can levy on the customers assets to secure payment at auction of the HMRC debt. The Field Force officer will remain professional at all times and will attempt to secure the payment prior to the levy using trained negotiating skills.
A Field Force/Distraint Officer can

  • ask for and take payment
  • set up a Time To Pay (TTP)
  • levy on goods to secure the debt.
Bambamhoohoo · 18/09/2025 13:58

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 18/09/2025 13:56

Presumably only in name - in order to take a salary out of the company to mitigate income tax, as spread across two people not one...

Company accounts make no comment on whether tax owed has been PAID.

Co sec doesn’t HAVE to sign off the accounts either.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 18/09/2025 13:56

Theroadt · 18/09/2025 13:46

As a Company Secretary you have to sign off accounts - so until he removed you as director you must have known something awry!

Presumably only in name - in order to take a salary out of the company to mitigate income tax, as spread across two people not one...

SanctusInDistress · 18/09/2025 13:56

Looks like he has an addiction issue - gambling perhaps? Run for the hills or you will end up homeless.

Theroadt · 18/09/2025 13:55

I have some sympathy but what is annoying me is your tone of “poor little me / I’m such an idiot / I don’t know how to…/I’m not technical so I can’t…” - FFS your poor husband sounds like he’s been doing the heavy lifting, got overwhelmed, lied. I feel sorry for him but he’s been carrying you, I think. Sell your house, car, fancy birthday watch. Pay back the debt. Or maybe not use roads, NHS, school etc paid for by the rest of us taxpayers. You were a company secretary - you must have seen the accounts before he took you off. You need to wake up & grow up.