Why isn’t the law being changed to allow deportations?

Yes, actually. I think those who arrive illegally shouldn’t have the same rights as citizens/those here legally

If the numbers were similar, why weren't there hotels full of asylum seekers back then?

Do you think their is overwhelming will to scrap human rights laws in the UK?

No he can’t … and for that I am pleased … despite being a Labour voter.

I don’t want a Political system, like the US, where the whims of one man decides the law.

I like an independent judiciary, and a system of checks & balances that stop up slipping into a totalitarian government.

I do wonder what specific “law” it is that people want changing ?

It is also your fault that mince and other foodstuffs have rocketed in price. I hope you are proud of yourself.😡

Also, us forrins are not people, and we're all criminals: stealing jobs, robbing old people and raping your dogs. Bewaaaaarrrrre! For Halloween this year, I'll just dress as my immigrant self 💅

Because us forrins have used our ethnic, exotic charms to bamboozle your governments to allow us to stay. Only one noble man, the mythical and heroic Nigel, has resisted our forrin magic. He's the one. A multi millionaire man of the people. Against forrins. Has a slightly French name. Married to a German.

This.

Lawyers control this country. They have no interest in removing strung out appeals because their mates are making too much money out of legal aid.

Remember that these people all studied together. They’re palsy-walsy. They did their bar together. They all come from the same kinds of families. They don’t give a fuck that you can’t see a doctor or that your daughter is sexually harassed by groups of migrant men loitering outside the local Holiday Inn.

I fucking hate lawyers

Wtf are you on about?

It’s baffling. I heard on the radio yesterday about the guy they were sue to swap out and he’s now lodged some spurious appeal/claim which means they can’t proceed.

change the law so if your claim isn’t allowed you are just removed. They are laughing at us and as the saying goes “if liberals won’t police the borders then fascists will”

I don’t think there would be popular support for those two changes, which would seriously damage our human rights.

Until recent years, anyone wanting to live in another country had to apply for permission. I never heard anyone question that, and I went through the same process each time I moved to another country. They have the right to choose who they want!

It’s understandable that people living in poverty-stricken, badly governed, war-torn or crime-ridden countries would prefer to live somewhere more comfortable. But Europe and the Anglosphere do not have room for everyone who wants a better life.

And those arriving on small boats are predominantly young and middle-aged men — their home country’s workforce, and the least oppressed sector of any population.

If the boats were full of women fleeing Afghanistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia, I would have a lot more sympathy, and would be fund-raising to support them.

But the present influx of demanding men, often with mediaeval views and without in-demand skills (and refusing to live in France, which is one of the world’s most civilised countries), is a burden many people reasonably think we should not have to bear.

People can, and are, deported from this country ever day, for legitimate reasons (despite what Reform mat spin). There always needs be a process that checks that the law is being properly applied … goes for all parts of the law.

Would you prefer a system like the USA, where people are being deported without any sort of process? Citizens, legitimate tourists, residents etc … people who have committed no crime, just caught up in idealistic nonsense, that puts “deportations” above “justice”.

This.

Lawyers control this country. They have no interest in removing strung out appeals because their mates are making too much money out of legal aid.

Remember that these people all studied together. They’re palsy-walsy. They did their bar together. They all come from the same kinds of families. They don’t give a fuck that you can’t see a doctor or that your daughter is sexually harassed by groups of migrant men loitering outside the local Holiday Inn.

I fucking hate lawyers

What's to stop them changing other parts while they're at it? Like your right to free speech, or a fair trial?

Idk tbh without looking up what happened but up until very recently the highest asylum number was 2002 / 3

Asylum seekers quite possibly are here legally. It is a basic feature of international
law that there is an ability to claim asylum where merited.

Of course it’s quite correct that their claims should be investigated and they should be deported if there is no evidence to back it up. But the problem is that there are not currently the skills or resources to do this so the Home Office are trying to just ignore the process and bung people on planes/ flights. Thankfully the judiciary are not prepared to do this, despite political pressure.

The law is basically fine, it’s the fact that it takes 500 days to investigate and decide a claim that’s not. Nothing to do with lefty lawyers, everything to do with underinvestment, lack of critical thinking skills and focussing on daily mail headlines.

Starmer is the Prime Minister with a huge majority. Of course he can change the law… Maybe not overnight, but he could done so months ago if there was a will.

There's money to be made. An army of lawyers and charities have their fingerprints all over the appeals process. Comic Relief, National Lottery and others. Starmer is a lawyer at heart. That's why he's so slippery and non-committal.

Because us forrins have used our ethnic, exotic charms to bamboozle your governments to allow us to stay. Only one noble man, the mythical and heroic Nigel, has resisted our forrin magic. He's the one. A multi millionaire man of the people. Against forrins. Has a slightly French name. Married to a German.

People can, and are, deported from this country ever day, for legitimate reasons (despite what Reform mat spin). There always needs be a process that checks that the law is being properly applied … goes for all parts of the law.

Would you prefer a system like the USA, where people are being deported without any sort of process? Citizens, legitimate tourists, residents etc … people who have committed no crime, just caught up in idealistic nonsense, that puts “deportations” above “justice”.

We used to have a system that could largely deal with the number of people applying.

Between 2010 and 2020, we somehow ended up with a dysfunctional system that's literally failing everybody - from the asylum seekers themselves, to the citizens of the country and the public services involved (and that also applies to healthcare, education, local government, etc, etc, etc).

Single celled amoebas could work out the causes of it all, and certainly wouldn't be remotely considering voting the people at the centre of it into power.