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Not Transphobia - Manphobia

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blueliner · 17/09/2025 14:43

Spurred on from a conversation today with a friend, I’m really getting tired of people throwing the accusation of transphobia around when it is nothing of the sort.

I really don't understand why stating that I don’t want to share single sex spaces with biological men, no matter how they identify, is transphobic. I am not scared of trans people and welcome trans identifying women into female only spaces. I just don’t want to share any single sex space with the opposite sex, no matter what surgeries they may or may not have had. One in 4 women are sexually assaulted by men in their lifetime. Men, as a group, pose a threat to women, isn’t that just factual.

AIBU to think what people should really be shouting is manphobia and they wouldn’t be wrong. I am scared of being in certain situations, especially in states of undress with unknown males in the room. Isn’t that why we have single sex spaces in the first place.

YABU - It’s transphobia
YANBU - It’s manphobia

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Locutus2000 · 17/09/2025 15:22

blueliner · 17/09/2025 15:11

If you do vote YABU please do explain why.

Because your unoriginal, goady post deserves it.

secureyourbook · 17/09/2025 15:21

I don’t think it’s even man phobia. A phobia is an irrational fear of something, and there’s nothing irrational about it.

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/09/2025 15:21

A phobia is an irrational fear. Knowing men can be a threat to women is entirely rational so neither is true.

TeaForTheTillermanSteakForTheSun · 17/09/2025 15:20

blueliner · 17/09/2025 15:20

If it’s been done to death why are organisations still not understanding this view enough to even uphold the law?

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Why don't you email them then?

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blueliner · 17/09/2025 15:20

TeaForTheTillermanSteakForTheSun · 17/09/2025 15:18

I voted YABU because this topic has been done to death and this take isn't even original.

I sometimes think people start these threads just because they know it will be full of people agreeing and they need a bit of Internet validation.

If it’s been done to death why are organisations still not understanding this view enough to even uphold the law?

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Swiftie1878 · 17/09/2025 15:19

blueliner · 17/09/2025 15:17

@Swiftie1878

I don’t believe that women’s single sex spaces are there to protect men from accusation tbh.

How does that work in sports or refuges. It’s about women and their right to safety, dignity and privacy.

Yes, they are, but their exclusion also protects men. Trans women entering those spaces lose that protection.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 17/09/2025 15:19

You have made the mistake of expecting logic from people who think that ‘a woman is someone who identifies as a woman’ is a meaningful definition.

TeaForTheTillermanSteakForTheSun · 17/09/2025 15:18

I voted YABU because this topic has been done to death and this take isn't even original.

I sometimes think people start these threads just because they know it will be full of people agreeing and they need a bit of Internet validation.

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blueliner · 17/09/2025 15:17

@Swiftie1878

I don’t believe that women’s single sex spaces are there to protect men from accusation tbh.

How does that work in sports or refuges. It’s about women and their right to safety, dignity and privacy.

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Swiftie1878 · 17/09/2025 15:14

I voted YABU, because it’s neither imo.
It’s just common sense that single sex spaces exist to protect everyone (women from the risks of abuse by men, and men from the potential accusation of abuse).

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blueliner · 17/09/2025 15:13

How can I be transphobic if I am completely happy to welcome trans identifying women into female single sex spaces.

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blueliner · 17/09/2025 15:11

If you do vote YABU please do explain why.

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AmusedOpalShaker · 17/09/2025 15:06

Yanbu