Not Transphobia - Manphobia

A man can be a threat to a woman. Men, as a collective are not a threat to women. In fact the opposite is true that a majority of men will protect women and prevent any harm rather than be the cause. Just thought I'd clear that up. I get the point you were trying to make though.

Misandry does exist, there’s no question about that, but this isn’t it. This is about a fear of the (potential) danger posed by men, NOT a hatred of men.

Don’t they say ‘Men fear being laughed at/humiliated by women. Women fear being killed by men.’

As for reverse racism, there is no such thing. Racism is racism whether it’s white on black, black on Hispanic, Hispanic on Asian, or indeed black on white.

There is no such thing as 'misandry' any more than there is 'reverse racism'.

but for all intents and purposes they are not a man. They are a biological woman. A female. And hence no threat to us. That's the point.

Although I voted yanbu, I wouldn't say manophobia is the right term. A phobia is an irrational fear, an over-the-top panic reaction to something non threatening. You have a rational and proportionate caution. You probably don't get a huge flight-or-fight adrenaline surge in the presence of a man, you just know that if you are in a vulnerable situation with any unknown man, no matter how dressed or made-up feminine style, you are at more risk than if you were in a single-sex space.

There is a difference between an arachnophobic person who screams and panics at the most harmless of spiders, vs the spider expert who has no phobic reaction but still wouldn't go to sleep in a room full of spiders only some of which are deadly.

There's a whole sub forum on here where people love to discuss this stuff, OP.

It’s not meant to be a gotcha.

It hasn't been said on this thread yet that I've noticed but I have absolutely seen it said in multiple other threads and I've reported those posts and they were deleted. Mainly in reference to all trans women.

Has anyone, ever, said ALL trans people are everything you’ve stated. I’ve never seen that. Only that all trans women are male. Because they are. Males commit 98% of the violent and sexual crime that occur. That’s not to say all men or all trans.

Your argument could be attributed to TRA’s who say ALL trans people are harmless and just want to pee like they are some homogenous group, it’s the cis ones that are bad don’t you know!

Everyone is male or female. There’s not a third category. Even those with DsD’s. Most are good, some are bad. That includes those who say they identify differently.

Don't get me wrong, I think those were very uncommon cases, but I know the people personally and I absolutely believe it happened - they were not in any way the type to initiate or be in any way comfortable with confrontation of any type.

I think when you start to say that all trans people do this or even all trans women do this (because let's be honest that's usually who's referred to when we talk about harmful behaviours) then I do think that's a problem. Which is the point I was making. If any TRA acts in an abusive or violent way then they should absolutely be held to account as should anyone who acts in that way. But I think it's also problematic when people refer to trans people or even just trans women as a blanket group when there's diversity within that group. I do think it's transphobic to not be able to make the distinction between the harmful actions of some individuals and a whole group of people with one shared point of identity. That doesn't mean they need to be allowed into female only spaces, exclusion exists in those spaces for a reason, but it IS transphobic use of language to say things like "trans women are all sexual deviants/perverse/predatory/evil" or any of the other things I've seen written on this site.

I didn't say that you did. but many people do, and they call us much worse, and with threats of violence thrown in for good measure.

Doesn't it shock you that TRAs can not only name call but Dox, swat. commit violent acts such as throwing soup over someone to rape, and yet they have been told, we don't want you in women's spaces etc. yet they are somehow the victim in all of this?

If you are a Transwoman you are a man, its very simple because in order to BE a Transwoman you HAVE to be a man.
I treat TW the same as I would any other man, with caution where necessary but as an individual as men are not one homogeneus lump. I am no more or less afraid of TW or as welcoming of them into women only spaces as any man

Assuming you're addressing me... yes why are you asking?

So you're on board with 'no males in female only spaces' then?

As I've previously stated:

"I can fully understand the issues with men in female only spaces and I do agree that trans women will have naturally had different life experience which may create some elements of male privilege/entitlements/harm unlike other biological women "

"I understand the concern of not being able to tell who's safe or not"

Maybe read my posts properly

So you can understand why women don’t want trans identifying males in their spaces then?

Obviously not. Does that even need asking? Stop digging for gotchas where you won't find any. Any abusive behaviour is unacceptable and obviously death threats or any form of violence is at the extreme end of that irregardless of who is perpetrating it.

But they know they are male and why is it women’s problem if they feel unsafe in men’s spaces? They know they are not supposed to be there but they do it anyway. So it’s not an innocent reason is it? It’s not like they accidentally walk through the wrong door. They make a conscious choice to ignore women’s boundaries.

So let me get this right. Issuing death threats, rape threats and threats of violence is equal to women calling men who want access their spaces not nice names is equal in your eyes?