Day of Dad’s funeral; Council demand Mum sell her house day after

It is credible, believe me. It is far from usual.

I think there is a place for this in investigative journalism.

I'm so sorry, I'm shocked they wouldn't give you a few days at the very least.

Im going to say that the op came in with some half facts, and then didn't answer questions about the will that magically stops them doing equity release or selling the property, and possibly is only here to rag on SS?

Nope many solicitors dont do 30 mins free, as there are too many freeloaders

Out of interest, who pays for the 24 hour care at home? Or am I reading thr post wrong? (Could be its late!)

Who would pay for it? Im sure plenty of people would like 24 hour at home care paid for.

How Much Does 24-Hour Care at Home Cost in the UK?
Most families pay between £1560 and £1700 per week for 24-hour professionally managed care at home in the UK. That works out to approximately £62,000 to £83,000 per year.

For individuals with complex needs such as advanced dementia or palliative care the cost may rise to £1,800 or more per week, especially if night care or double-up carer is required.

I have to point out that it's not the Social Workers forcing this, it's the Council Finance/ Debt collection department. Of course, SWs usually get to share the bad news...
Wouldn't it be a shame if the papers heard about this? And local MP? It would be pretty bad optics for a council.

OP - again if you’re still reading, here is a case where family successfully challenged a local authority on 24/7 care at home rather than going into a care home. If it can be shown that it’s in your mother’s best interests and that the 24/7 care at home is safe, then it is possible to challenge refusals based solely on the cost of the care. https://www.ms-solicitors.co.uk/community-care-law/planning-and-paying-for-care/case-study-successful-challenge-to-inadequate-social-services-funding-offer-for-24-hour-care-at-home/

I still think it’s very much worth exploring a continuing healthcare application - you can take a look at Beacon https://beaconchc.co.uk/

A Solicitor we met via age uk.

Hi, so sorry for the loss of your father. Firstly, please don’t panic, social services think they can bully but they can’t actually force you to do anything. My Mother had exactly this scenario when my stepfather passed because she’d had a massive stroke among other things and needed 2 x carers, 4 times a day. The week my DSF passed away a woman from SS came to my mum’s house and said ‘we will take over her LPA and she will go into a home and we will sell her house to pay for her care!’ Straight away I showed them the door for coming out with that crap not only in front of DM but also for frightening her and making her believe she had to do as they said! I firmly told them no way were SS taking over the LPA from me, my DH & I moved in with her straight away and insisted her care package remain as my health problems would prevent me attending to my mother for personal care. I made an appointment with AGE UK to see our rights and luckily a Solicitor did half hour free consultations for Age Uk so we had one. Luckily she took us on for a case (related but personal) so helped enormously with our rights. I’d suggest you tell SS to but out and you are not handing your mums LPA over to them, nor selling her property until you’ve had further advice, secondly make an appointment to see Age UK and ask if the have any solicitor appointments you can have. Luckily we were put in touch with an amazing solicitor who certainly knew her stuff where SS are involved. Thirdly can you move in with her albeit temporarily just so you all get some breathing space. SS used to have to pay all her nursing home fees for the first 12 weeks if you are selling her home to pay for care. You need to seek advice and get the backing of a professional Solicitor who specialises in the elderly care home fees and the benefits she’s entitled too. Bear in mind her pension and Attendance Allowance are taken into consideration to pay for her nursing home and if your Dad had a private pension will also help to pay for her care. DO NOT hand control to SS (wouldn’t trust them to have your DM’s best interest at heart) and shout loud until you are heard. Good luck it’s hard work but you will get through it.

Speak to Parkinson's UK, I have found their advisors incredibly helpful, in my husband's case with getting higher level attendance allowance.
They are brilliant.
Good luck.

So sorry for what you are going through. But I don't fully understand the whole situation, so cannot comment, sorry, it sounds quite complex. Agree, get in touch with Age UK / Age Concern & CAB. A good solicitor will give free advice about this, everyone is allowed approx. 30 mins free advice from a solicitor, I believe. Good luck going forwards, hopefully things will work out? xx

The lady is doubly incontinent, therefore she needs someone with her 24hrs. It's inhumane to leave her potentially soiled between visits.
Councils cannot provide 24hr care at home. And its far too big an ask of the Op.

I found this post very strange. From what I know, councils normally try to keep people in their own homes for as long as possible.

Agreed, I posted earlier in the thread to offer some actual advice as have others. I'm starting to think it was more a thread of 'aren't local authorities horrible', rather than wanting any actual help and advice on the situation
Lots of false information in some of these posts from people who think social services make money somehow from people ending up in car. Social care for adults and children are the biggest expenditure in local authorities and. They all abide by the rules government sets. They can't provide round the clock carers in people's houses, it is just not possible

Not remotely. Spoken like somebody who has read every post, sees an unverified one sided inflammatory story with LOADS of detail missing, who refuses to provide any detail so that people can actually advise them, and goes on to be quite rude. I know what I would ususally call that, but it would be breaking the rules to say.

So you clearly don't want any help then.

Have fun with that

People who are on benefits are subject to the same means testing as everybody else. People on benefits very frequently qualify for eligible care needs to be funded by the local authority (of which social services are a part of)

It is not true that pensioners in benefits do not qualify for eligible care needs to be funded by the local authority) of which SS are a part of)

So you think that adult social care should be completely non-means tested? Is that what you are saying? Care should be completely free and incumbent upon the taxpayer?

Spoken like a social worker?

I corrected myself. Even that Act was effected by the 2022 one, and that is being changed this year.

It will be interesting to see what happens when pensioners on just the state pension have to pay income tax.

I think children will have to accept the fact that they will not inherit much once Ms Reeves has finished with people. Many will be unable to buy a house themselves and will add to the renting list, making a home as rare as hen's teeth. Like those revolutionaries, I think she is convinced that there is enough wealth among us that everyone will be equal, but for the better! A fairy tale world.

Is it her way of making everyone equal in the Marx sense? If it is, the spiral downwards will be as horrific as it was in 1917.

You post should tell people that they must not give in to the harassment of the SS.

I know of similar instances, and if they were my instances, including some where they have had to produce a marriage licence, house deeds, and so on. I would quote them, because people should be aware that the SS cannot do what they like with people's lives just because they have a bit of money and won't be a charge on their budget.

I feel sorry for those on pension credit, housing relief and other benefits. They don't get help because the LA pays for their expenses and if the SS stepped in, it would be a charge on their budget!

All their moans about not having enough care workers for domiciliary care is a load of who shot john. They don't offer it if the elderly are on benefits.

A few years ago two social workers were arrested when it was discovered that they removed an elderly person from a secure tenancy low rent home and put her elsewhere, and took over the tenancy themselves. I should still have the cutting somewhere. They got a prison sentence, so I don't think that would happen again.

The question is have is how long from the death to the funeral has that been 6 weeks where nothing has been done to get her moved?
Then theyve given time for the family to start moving things along.

The OP doesn't seem to actually care all that much. There are two sides to every story, and the OP has given one highly inflammatory one and then, if she has responded at all, only been rude. One might think that there is more to this than meets the eye.

It sounds absolutely barbaric doing it the day of the funeral.

I guess the request not to do anything "for a while" is unreasonable though, as they will have legal obligations.

I sympathise though. People in these jobs can become a bit desensitised to the humanity of it all as the follow protocols. It doesnt sound like they're getting the right balance. 🥺

Is what you are saying she has been told to sell the house to pay for her care in a care home? That is normal if you have your own home that's what they expect you to do. But, you would inherit the house if she didn't have to pay for care? In which case, you look after her or the house is sold to pay for her care, any money left after she passes away would be left to whoever she leaves it to in her will.