Why is the public directing their anger at the individual asylum seeker that arrives at the shore…

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We don't know who these people are. Wait until this becomes the normality for children and parents.

There was an interesting section on an R4 programme yesterday, which put the cost of the Royal family at £4 per head, and the income from tourism etc. at about £15 benefit. You couldn't pay me enough to be the Princess of Wales but I am delighted someone wants to be, and even more pleased that she is so flipping brilliant at doing it. I really don't care that they probably have a spare bedroom or two.

I have the advantage of being lucky enough to possess excellent academic ability and that means I’ve been able to hold on to my career even with a progressive disability
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Here you’re boasting about how clever you are, yet you make statements about how big landowners shouldn’t be allowed so much land and it’s wrong that the royal family have so many bedrooms and ‘acres of lands doing nothing’ and so on.

However when asked for examples of the Royal family’s land that does nothing and how many bedrooms are too many and what is the maximum amount of land someone can own you are unable to come with any answers.
If you’re so clever surely you’ve thought these things through and have the answers?

Can you point me to a link or anything I’ve had a look but haven’t found anything that gives that info. I’ll keep looking but if you know you could point me in the right direction

It is publicly available for here and other EU countries. Journalists are lazy too and even BBC will spread misinformation, as I found out at a recent talk from a high profile BBC speaker.

We don’t need them all to be highly educated. Many of them work in low skilled jobs that are difficult to fill with our “own.”

A skilled work visa type already exists.

Fair point re benefits, it is an improvement on where many of them come from. No issue with that either, to be honest. If their visa type allows for recourse to public funds then that’s been decided by someone who’s job it was to make that decision.

Yeah, yeah, everyone is entitled to a defence but, as I stated, this individual was represented by a chambers known for a liking for anti-establishment causes; it was not chance he ended up with them.

Don't a client's solicitors choose which barrister or chambers to instruct?

Back in the dark ages when I was a legal clerk that was the case, and they always instructed those with specialist experience in the relevant type of matter. They'd be mad to use, eg, a matrimonial specialist for an immigration matter, and I suspect that immigration specialists tend to be in chambers with something of a specialis in human rights related work.

Seeking asylum isn’t illegal, and you can’t claim UC whilst in the asylum system.

If you are claiming UC, you must have some type of visa that allows recourse to public funds (not all of them do) or leave to remain, in which case - you’re also not illegally present in the country.

No I do not especially as that deal is currently not workable due to the regime change. I really can’t see where you’ve got that from in anything I’ve written.

Ah ok, I didn’t know that - it would be good to see the figures around that. There’s a lack of transparency which doesn’t help the current climate and tensions.
It would be helpful if politician had more honest conversations around the issues faced rather than he stoking of divisions that has become mainstream.

So why don't we look after our own first, before helping people coming here illegally?

There may be issues but using broken when comparing with countries where people are coming from isn’t the case.

ETA we have high state support atm.

Do you not believe that economic migration may also be for the opportunity to work and contribute?

Yes absolutely but immigrants should still be of clear overall benefit to the country ie well educated, verifiable lack of criminal record, good English, culturally compatible etc.

Our benefit system is as broken as our education system.

Honestly it's still untold riches in comparison to what the poor have in least developed countries.

I don't support Reform but given that they've said they'll only deport people who come here illegally and foreign criminals I'm not worried. I'm also a naturalised UK citizen.

Well.

We have a disabled child, and the first thing I’d say is that DLA isn’t as easy to get as you clearly think, and even when you do have it - it doesn’t scratch the surface of the extra costs attached to having a child with disability.

Our benefit system is as broken as our education system.

Do you not believe that economic migration may also be for the opportunity to work and contribute?

You believe people come here for UC, when our “own” are struggling to live on it and simultaneously feed their children?

UK benefits look incredibly generous to those from genuinely poor countries, yes.
And if you're a large family with several children that can be classed as disabled, it isn't a small amount, especially with the free housing, free healthcare etc.

Not many people were returned with the EU. We took more than sent and it was very low in number. Other EU countries are similar. It doesn’t do much to alter the situation politicians are facing.

Yes. You said. I again refer you to being a nice person.
The fact you are yourself an immigrant makes it even more grim you hold such views. You can think what you like about success, there is absolute irrefutable evidence to the contrary, I also grew up poor and am now financially stable and have a career I worked hard to build from nothing. But I am the exception, not the rule. I have the advantage of being lucky enough to possess excellent academic ability and that means I’ve been able to hold on to my career even with a progressive disability. Most don’t have that. Success on the whole has very little to do with you working hard, and everything to do with luck.
I also feel bad for you, because if Nigel and his friends get into power, they won’t care that you came here legally or took no money, they just care that you’re brown. If you support them you’re no different than all the MAGA farmers in the US who didn’t think he meant to deport THEIR Mexicans. Or whose British wife visited home and now can’t get back into the US after living there legally for 30 years.

and once theyre done with the immigrants, who do they come for next?

You believe people come here for UC, when our “own” are struggling to live on it and simultaneously feed their children?

They are coming here to milk the system and get a better life. But the point is it's illegal. Anyone should arrives illegally should get a criminal record and be ineligible to ever claim asylum in the UK. Why do we need passports and checks but they can just rock up with no documents or any right to live here. Total madness.m

We absolutely should not be returning people to Afghanistan.

The way I see it, let's say someone gives you a biscuit jar. A handful of these biscuits are laced with poison. How many biscuits would you eat and let into your body?

I’m not narrow minded or blinkered, I’m just extremely jaded and sad about the human race as a whole these days.
The people being discussed here are the people in hotels and b&bs who are asylum seekers. Those are the people being abused and targeted and intimidated and who the OP asked about.
no one is asking us to take an infinite number of migrants.

So you agree we should return people to Afghanistan, as we have a returns deal with them?

Yes and we have deals with a number of countries listed here:
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10157/
if you read that list then look at the countries in the EU you’ll see that many EU counties aren’t on our list we have deals with. So we are now less able to return people to Europe which we would have been able to do pre- brexit.