Why is the public directing their anger at the individual asylum seeker that arrives at the shore…

If a gay man can hold his nose and have a straight relationship in the UK, he can do so in Nigeria. Funny how so many “discover” they are gay, or Christian, or political, when their final appeal is heard or they are about to be put on a plane. It also makes a mockery of our right to deport criminals who have served more than a 12 month sentence. Their human rights frequently trump ours to stay safe from violent and predatory men.

But a few people directing anger at men on boats means that EVERYONE objecting to the arrival of thousands of undocumented men is a far right racist bigot?

The Brits living in Spain have to financially support themselves. If they trumped up with nothing but the shirt on their back, they'd be laughed straight back to the airport. And as I’ve repeatedly said, I think they should learn Spanish and not live in enclaves, but conversely people defending immigrants seem to think its fine for them to live closely and maintain their language and cultural traditions, and we should welcome that. Do you think Spain should be more Anglicised, so our pensioners feel more at home?

I can recognise the damage to UK society yes.

You do realise that people can get married and have kids and still be gay, yes?

Well if those claims are true then obviously it needs to be dealt with. I’m not sure the actions of a few people prove any great conspiracy on a large scale
though.

Have proof of that do you?

😂 self hate.
it’s just as hypocritical to say that you’re fine being an immigrant, you’re fine with British people lining the Costa del Sol, but some other immigrants coming here is the downfall of the west.

The Welsh refugee council, the length of stay has varied, the longest stayed 18 months mostly because of Covid. I’ve had men and women and a couple of times children with their mothers. Payment varies, if it’s Ukrainian refugees the Senedd pays £500 a month, if you host outwith that scheme charities sometimes fund a payment to cover costs usually about £30 a week. I’ve mostly done the second kind, though I did have a Ukrainian lady once for a few months.

That isn’t an answer.

Hmmm. That would be a fairly small number. Nowhere near enough to satisfy the likes of Y-L and his hounds.

Those are the categories they’ll begin with, certainly.
Look at what’s happening in the US.

OwlBeThere
I have had refugees stay in my house. I think at last count it was 12. I don’t have much room, but I turned my dining room into my bedroom. They have always been pretty good house guests.

Out of interest, which organisation was this arranged through? Were you paid to host or receive an allowance? How long did the placements last? Were they mixed sex placements or females only?

here’s a question for you, if you don’t want asylum seekers or immigrants here and think we should be allowed to turn them all away.

@OwlBeThere According to Google at the moment there are 56 active armed conflicts globally. I am sorry for anyone whose country is experiencing conflict and its consequences but I do not think the UK can accept every person that is affected by these wars.

It's self hate honestly.

I can understand that yes I as an individual I benefited. But I can also understand that UK society has a whole has been negatively impacted due to mass immigration.

Of course this is your Country, but it's also MY Country, and everyone else's Country whose lived here, integrated in society and respected British culture.

My Great grandfather's, Uncles and my brother have also fought for this Country, and I was born and bred here, but what relevance is that to this topic? It doesn't give me more rights than anyone else over this Country, and neither does it you.
Imo, if everything in my first sentence applies to people, then all should be welcome here.
As you know, there's now a situation where we are being expected to accommodate and pay for illegal immigrants to come here, and I've said it so many times, we can't afford to look after these people. The County is in huge debt and we are a tiny Island compared to other safe Countries the people turning up on boats could go to.

Our pensioners and homeless are being neglected, yet we are paying literally millions to people who have no identification (how do you know what they're fleeing from? Are they really fleeing?) and who people fear don't intend to integrate with us. They also haven't contributed to society obviously.

It's as simple as that, and people don't want it to continue. And because people are encouraged to unite together and speak out, we're being classed as 'far right racists', it's unbelievable and disgusting.
People don't suddenly become racists overnight you know, just because they've spoken out and put some flags up.

If the supposed far right were racist, then how has everyone lived harmoniously together for years?
According to some, the flying of flags is a message of racism against non white British born people, but that isn't true at all. It's a message that people who don't want to see British culture completely eradicated are trying to send to the Government to listen to them and do something about the constant influx of people (coming here illegally) who don't value our culture. It's got nothing to do with racism.

Or they realise that with the massive privilege of living in a democratic country which is safe and prosperous

How safe it is isn't a guarantee either. Look at what happened to Swedish crime stats in the last two decades!
Look at poor Salwan Momika, shot dead during a live stream and still no-one brought to justice.

I have a similar background to you.

The migrants coming now would likely not fight for Britain, especially in a war against an Islamic nation.

Many of them don’t speak and don’t intend or aren’t allowed to speak English.

Those are negative differences, and affect the way people feel towards immigrants. Sometimes we get tarred with the same brush, but perhaps the blame lies equally with those immigrants, as with those doing the tarring. Bringing more immigrants doesn’t make it better.

Many on MN are very disparaging of the enclaves of Brits who move to Spain and live in little England zones and eat fish and chips, but defend the immigrants who do this in Britain. Utter hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy and an utter red herring as its up to Spain what requirements they have of their immigrant population - feck all to do with the UK really.

Or they realise that with the massive privilege of living in a democratic country which is safe and prosperous, comes responsibility to not only maintain that equilibrium, but to make a direct and positive contribution.

We recognise that thousands of white Christians travelling around the world and changing global majority countries was a really bad thing, yet when hundreds of thousands of people from a different culture move west and change white nations, we embrace the multiculturalism.

Many on MN are very disparaging of the enclaves of Brits who move to Spain and live in little England zones and eat fish and chips, but defend the immigrants who do this in Britain. Utter hypocrisy.

Apparently for some, it is.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/21/gay-violent-nigerian-criminal-stay-uk-wife-son-deport-echr/

These refugees must be a different sort of refugee then 🙄
https://news.sky.com/story/afghans-relocated-to-uk-exaggerating-taliban-threat-ex-interpreter-says-13423813

Not refugees. They can’t because they’ll lose their refugee status.

Hence tending to wait until they have permanent residence.

There are key phrases many men are told to say on arrival. One very common one is an affair with a woman of a higher class/caste and so the individual cannot return home as they would be killed. Thousands of applicants with that as a reason.

My parents and I are immigrants.

My grandparents were asylum seekers.

The reason we have these labels is because various governments have moved my family around. Due mainly to politics. They sent us back after we provided service. To an unstable country. Then moved us elsewhere as we could be useful.

My great grandparents were among the first to hold UK passports. Both great grandfathers fought for Britain in the first world war. I now have their passports. Ration books. Land registry documents of houses long since requestioned.

But according to some I am not good enough to live here.

I am grateful to the racist wankers for prompting me to research intricately my family history. This all began for me when a racist twat hung a flag outside my house because I am different.
What this has done for me, is made me realise this is my home. This is my place. This is where I want to be. This is where I belong.

I want to care for refugees. I want to stand up for people seeking asylum. I want to share.

And if you don't like it, you can fuck off.

Not me, you.

This is MY country.