Why is the public directing their anger at the individual asylum seeker that arrives at the shore…

We saw what happened in Manchester the other day didn't we.

I wouldn’t want to be a naturalised citizen if Reform formed a government.

First they came …..,

I don't support Reform but given that they've said they'll only deport people who come here illegally and foreign criminals I'm not worried. I'm also a naturalised UK citizen.

Yep. 600 quid for a GP visit will not win the hearts and minds of the locals:

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2j3regpdno.amp

@OwlBeThere do you honestly think that interpreter services are a better use of public money than MPs (the democratic process) or the royal family (our heritage)?

We may have a right shower currently but the alternative is what? A dictatorship? A republican dictatorship? But yay! With plenty of interpreters!

So disabled migrants with NRPF can still access public funds?

@OwlBeThere do you honestly think that interpreter services are a better use of public money than MPs (the democratic process) or the royal family (our heritage)?

We may have a right shower currently but the alternative is what? A dictatorship? A republican dictatorship? But yay! With plenty of interpreters!

Disabled people are protected under the equality act, and are entitled by law to interpreters and intervenors and any other services they need in order to get the same treatment as everyone else.
the cost of interpreters when put into context against other costs to the tax payer.
£132m the MPs of this country cost us.
The royal family cost us 86m officially , though others argue that it’s closer to 50m when you factor in security and so forth.

I don't think people are angry at asylum seekers for coming. I think they are angry when their housing + benefits are being paid for by the taxpayer.

Thanks. It’s been really sad to see that the thread took a turn to just general immigrant discussion, away from the actual question asked. The content brought it back to feel like all the other asylum seeker threads already existing which wasn’t the intent.

… rather than the smuggling / trafficking gangs that are responsible for the journey?

I think it’s very extreme to put all of the blame and the anger at the individual that arrives, rather than the people responsible for orchestrating the whole process. These individuals are often ‘sold the dream’ and hooked in by organised crime groups who direct them to the UK. I’ve looked at sample routes from different parts of the world (screenshots may be pending) and these are complex and would need local people, as well as law enforcement, customs officers and other government officials to turn a blind eye involved in smuggling across multiple borders.

It’s no secret that these crossings likely cost a lot of money, and I think it would be safe to assume that refugees would often be in crippling debt to the OCGs who will put pressure on them to pay it back, by threatening them and their families and I would go as far as to say they could then be coerced in to further committing crimes when granted asylum in order to pay back their debt.

These OCGs are likely involved in other trafficking / crime, not just of asylum seekers but likely drugs, weapons and sex as they have the connections across those borders.

I think it’s very unlikely that an asylum seeker is sitting there looking at all the European government websites and shopping for a country with the best benefits package and approaching a trafficker with a brochure like they’re picking a Jet2 holiday. But this is the narrative that’s often put us and fuelled in the media.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have a better system and want to control our borders better on a whole, but this sheer anger and blame placed at the human in front of us seems very misplaced, when they were likely manipulated in to thinking they can have a better life in this particular country and not another, and the problem is way way bigger than an individual.

There's an argument for providing language interpretation services for asylum seekers/refugees for a limited amount of time, but not for economic migrants or those otherwise expected to support themselves - workers, students, tourists - which I assume those non-refugee deaf / deaf/blind users would fall under.

Sorry, two different conversation threads, getting confused. The discussion about Brits moving to Spain was originally brought up by another poster, and we went off on a tangent. Recourse to public funds depends on their visa type or immigration status; those with LLR, EU migrants with settled or pre-settled status can access public funds, as can others with NRPF in some circumstances, such as when there's a child involved or they are destitute. Arguably, if you come as a legal migrant with NRPF and can't support yourself, you should return home.

… rather than the smuggling / trafficking gangs that are responsible for the journey?

I think it’s very extreme to put all of the blame and the anger at the individual that arrives, rather than the people responsible for orchestrating the whole process. These individuals are often ‘sold the dream’ and hooked in by organised crime groups who direct them to the UK. I’ve looked at sample routes from different parts of the world (screenshots may be pending) and these are complex and would need local people, as well as law enforcement, customs officers and other government officials to turn a blind eye involved in smuggling across multiple borders.

It’s no secret that these crossings likely cost a lot of money, and I think it would be safe to assume that refugees would often be in crippling debt to the OCGs who will put pressure on them to pay it back, by threatening them and their families and I would go as far as to say they could then be coerced in to further committing crimes when granted asylum in order to pay back their debt.

These OCGs are likely involved in other trafficking / crime, not just of asylum seekers but likely drugs, weapons and sex as they have the connections across those borders.

I think it’s very unlikely that an asylum seeker is sitting there looking at all the European government websites and shopping for a country with the best benefits package and approaching a trafficker with a brochure like they’re picking a Jet2 holiday. But this is the narrative that’s often put us and fuelled in the media.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have a better system and want to control our borders better on a whole, but this sheer anger and blame placed at the human in front of us seems very misplaced, when they were likely manipulated in to thinking they can have a better life in this particular country and not another, and the problem is way way bigger than an individual.

Yes, I simply can’t fathom why so many shops say they are struggling to afford staff: most Saturday jobs are a thing of the past and the NI costs etc are punitive.

YET in my small town there are I now think SEVEN barbers, all with multiple men working there. And I don’t think the local quite old population has much hair! Ditto three or four car washes - masses of guys scrubbing away.

The authorities seem to turn a completely blind eye to why certain businesses can afford whole legions of staff…