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Pension credit only £3 less than State Pension

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SpanishBaguette · 16/09/2025 13:16

Maybe it's been obvious to others but I've only just found out that Pension Credit will top you up to no less than £227 per week which is only £3 less than the state pension.

AIBU to be hacked off that I need to pay 35 years of contributions to end up with a near identical pension to someone who gets it for free. WTF?

OP posts:
Namechange4466543 · 16/09/2025 14:41

Being on pension credit also gives access to other benefits

Ginmonkeyagain · 16/09/2025 14:40

@jan2310 did she aye?

Laundrywitch · 16/09/2025 14:40

Fake an illness. Waste NHS time for 3 to 6 months making sure fake illness is documented. Claim PIP. If you have a partner get them to do the same but make sure one is physical and one is mental and then you can both claim carers for each other too.

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 16/09/2025 14:39

I suppose the difference is it’s likely that as someone who has worked 35+ years you may well own your own house which is possibly now mortgage-free, have a private pension on top of your state pension and maybe savings as well. All of which would mean you have considerably more income/money to spare than someone who has always been on benefits.

huffdragon · 16/09/2025 14:39

SpanishBaguette · 16/09/2025 13:28

I get the point about having a private pension. Why I think it niggles more than earning money while other working-age people get free money is because:

-Those people usually have children so it's not practical for the state to not step in
-The State pension amount is decided by the State as being an appropriate amount for those who have paid in. For the state to say that they think an appropriate pension is £3 more than the benefit they need to give someone who hasn't contributed a penny is absolutely galling.

You do realise that those people will include those who have been ill or disabled and unable to work or do you think they are lazy feckless people as well? Our state pension is one of the lowest in Europe. I don’t know anyone who could live on less than £227 a week indefinitely to cover everything. Pensioners used to die of cold in the winter as they couldn’t afford their heating bill or nourishing food. I remember reading about it when I was young and women were particularly badly affected as they were in lower paid jobs. So that is why governments made it necessary to have a private pension and give top ups to those who have had one. Count yourself lucky you have one, lots of older people don’t. I hope you have a very comfortable retirement.

MyElatedUmberFinch · 16/09/2025 14:39

SpanishBaguette · 16/09/2025 13:57

That's so interesting. So people with private pensions under £10k would have been better off keeping it as savings?

A 10k pension pot is about £8 per week.

Montereyjaaack · 16/09/2025 14:38

Some people seem woefully misinformed- pension credit is more akin to universal credit - TOO UP benefit rather than “if you sat on your arse deliberately all your life (whoever such people avoiding job coaches and benefits cuts are) you get a pension@.

people who do qualify for state pension who would qualify for less than the “full” amount of state pension can qualify for pension credit but it is a MEANS-TESTED benefit.

Can people stop being Farage-cum-Trump spreading misinformation about a particular benefit that you could just “google”!

PiggyPigalle · 16/09/2025 14:38

Do you think recipients of PC never worked? Someone could be just short of required contributions.
Some companies had an opt out scheme. They could have been ill or self employed for a while. They could even have been carers, without knowing the system.
They could have been their husband's book keeper and he wasn't paying it.

It's the old trope of "people who'd sat on their backsides gambling and smoking while I worked my socks off!" Not necessarily true.

During Covid, many people believed they were risking their lives to provide essential services while others stayed at home on full pay.

Teenageneerdowell · 16/09/2025 14:38

AirborneElephant · 16/09/2025 14:34

I want them to downsize to free up equity, or to sell up and move into rented. Whatever they prefer, but I don’t think equity in a house should be disregarded.

Ah move into rented! Yes and we all know how there is so much available affordable rented property around. And guess what, once the equity runs out, someone getting PC will get help with rented (whilst their equity has lined the pockets of a landlord).

AirborneElephant · 16/09/2025 14:37

Coffeeishot · 16/09/2025 14:36

You think you have it all worked out but you are just making a show of yourself and spouting soundbites!

Would you care to tell me why you think it’s right for people to be able to hold onto assets while getting benefits? Or do you just want to keep on with the insults?

AirborneElephant · 16/09/2025 14:36

Teenageneerdowell · 16/09/2025 14:35

So imagine you can't claim PC because of the property you own which is worth £150k. It needs work doing on it and isn't selling. What do you live off in the meantime? Or are you another poster who thinks we should be starving pensioners?

The system isn't perfect but I would rather live in a society that ensures a basic level of income rather than a punitive system where the poorest die.

Houses can always be sold at the right price. Any they would have years of warning to prepare.

Coffeeishot · 16/09/2025 14:36

AirborneElephant · 16/09/2025 14:34

I want them to downsize to free up equity, or to sell up and move into rented. Whatever they prefer, but I don’t think equity in a house should be disregarded.

You think you have it all worked out but you are just making a show of yourself and spouting soundbites!

Teenageneerdowell · 16/09/2025 14:35

AirborneElephant · 16/09/2025 14:28

I’m sorry, but tough. At 67 people are perfectly able to move house. I am not OK paying benefits so that people can live exactly where they choose and pass the house down to their children. At the very least a debt should be put against the house so that the money is repaid after they die.

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So imagine you can't claim PC because of the property you own which is worth £150k. It needs work doing on it and isn't selling. What do you live off in the meantime? Or are you another poster who thinks we should be starving pensioners?

The system isn't perfect but I would rather live in a society that ensures a basic level of income rather than a punitive system where the poorest die.

Coffeeishot · 16/09/2025 14:34

UglyBastardFace · 16/09/2025 14:31

I thought you could still claim pension credit even if you did have a private pension.

Receipt is based on your income being below the income threshold not if you have a private pension??

You can but there will be a threshold,

OwlBeThere · 16/09/2025 14:34

SpanishBaguette · 16/09/2025 13:16

Maybe it's been obvious to others but I've only just found out that Pension Credit will top you up to no less than £227 per week which is only £3 less than the state pension.

AIBU to be hacked off that I need to pay 35 years of contributions to end up with a near identical pension to someone who gets it for free. WTF?

don’t then.
its that simple, if it’s that easy to just not work and sit around doing nothing….just do that.
personally i’d rather be at work in the career that I worked really for and loved doing, but instead I’m at home, missing a leg, on 19
different mUedications a day, feeling like death from chemo. 🤷🏼‍♀️

HPFA · 16/09/2025 14:34

I love this idea that people can just rock up at the Benefits Agency and say "I don't feel like working, give me money."

Its a pretty onerous process claiming benefits and the sanctions regime is severe.

AirborneElephant · 16/09/2025 14:34

Coffeeishot · 16/09/2025 14:30

So you want then to sell their house to buy another house, What are you talking about ?

I want them to downsize to free up equity, or to sell up and move into rented. Whatever they prefer, but I don’t think equity in a house should be disregarded.

Coffeeishot · 16/09/2025 14:32

angelos02 · 16/09/2025 14:30

Like lots of things nowadays - there should be a gulf of difference in lifestyle between people that work and those that choose not to...but there isn't. There should be a gulf in the lifestyle of someone retired that has worked all of their life and someone that hasn't.

Gulf my god !

jan2310 · 16/09/2025 14:32

My friend cashed in her private pension as soon as she could. She spent it all. Every penny. On luxury 5 star holidays to Dubai, the Maldives and Australia. Bought designer handbags and lots of new stuff for her home. She didn’t save a penny for retirement as she knew she would get pension credit and would be better off than if she had a small private pension. She now gets pension credit, her rent paid and other benefits.

It’s not something I would do but I can see why those struggling on a state pension with a small private pension feel cheated.

UglyBastardFace · 16/09/2025 14:31

I thought you could still claim pension credit even if you did have a private pension.

Receipt is based on your income being below the income threshold not if you have a private pension??

Coffeeishot · 16/09/2025 14:30

AirborneElephant · 16/09/2025 14:28

I’m sorry, but tough. At 67 people are perfectly able to move house. I am not OK paying benefits so that people can live exactly where they choose and pass the house down to their children. At the very least a debt should be put against the house so that the money is repaid after they die.

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So you want then to sell their house to buy another house, What are you talking about ?

angelos02 · 16/09/2025 14:30

Like lots of things nowadays - there should be a gulf of difference in lifestyle between people that work and those that choose not to...but there isn't. There should be a gulf in the lifestyle of someone retired that has worked all of their life and someone that hasn't.

Happyher · 16/09/2025 14:30

If you’ve worked for 35 years you will have had a better life than the majority who live their lives on benefits and if you’ve been sensible you will have saved, kept out of debt and paid into a pension

Elleherd · 16/09/2025 14:29

Bluefloor · 16/09/2025 14:20

You get automatic pension contributions for the years that you claim child benefit, so she should have been able to get these as a SAHM.

She wont have got them if her husband claimed them. It was a common trap that women had little say in.

thepariscrimefiles · 16/09/2025 14:28

God, it's all gone a bit Ayn Rand on here.

The UK wouldn't look great if our streets were full of homeless and starving pensioners who could no longer access Pension Credit. I would imagine that a lot of them would be women.