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Movingonfeelssad · 16/09/2025 12:56

Hey,
just came to the realization that private school for my child will not happen. Local State is good, cannot complain really, he will be fine, but will always wonder what doors private would have opened. We can afford it, mainly because of my income and this created so much pain in my husband that I decided to let it go. As a self made person from a very underprivileged background, it took so much grit and determination to get to where I am right now financially and I find it slightly challenging not to aim for the best for my child. But the value for money makes no sense with today’s fees and increasing costs, lifestyle creep etc…
what is the point of being successful as a professional if I need to hide it all the time? And before you say, yes my husband is very supportive of me otherwise…

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twistyizzy · 19/09/2025 09:09

Flatus · 19/09/2025 09:08

I just remember back in my DS's time (he was in year 6 in 2011/2012) the private schools he applied for had 11+s and it you did okay you got in. You did really well you got scholarship.

Yes some are selective. Many aren't

Flatus · 19/09/2025 09:08

twistyizzy · 19/09/2025 09:06

Not all. Not all independent schools are selective.

I just remember back in my DS's time (he was in year 6 in 2011/2012) the private schools he applied for had 11+s and it you did okay you got in. You did really well you got scholarship.

twistyizzy · 19/09/2025 09:06

Flatus · 19/09/2025 09:05

I'd be pissed too. But I always thought private secondaries had 11+s to do? Or 13+s?

Not all. Not all independent schools are selective.

Flatus · 19/09/2025 09:05

CallMeMessy · 19/09/2025 08:11

I know plenty of people who went to private school and flunked everything. Close friend’s father is STILL pissed off 20 years later that she ‘wasted’ his money by getting ok GCSEs and had to resit A levels despite the money he chucked at her education. Then she had the gall not to go to a top tier uni too, before choosing a career she loved over a ££££ corporate career.

I'd be pissed too. But I always thought private secondaries had 11+s to do? Or 13+s?

Stifledlife · 19/09/2025 08:26

This was me 15 years ago. We looked at cheaper options but nothing sat quite right. We went for a look around the "elite school" basically in order to write it off and we were blown away by the child showing us around and the easy relationship he had with the teachers and other students we encountered on our show round, as well as his demeanour and the amazing facilities.
We decided to make it work.. twice.. and the result has been amazing. I couldn't have asked for more in terms of "soft skills", and I suppose the point was the kids were very different (chalk and cheese really) and yet the school moulded around each of them, rather than making them fit in the standard "round hole".
We aren't rich, but neither were a lot of other parents.. we all just wanted the best for our kids.
It brought out the absolute best in each of them, gave them a confidence and a view to life and progression that is very rare today. They look the world directly in the eye.
It was worth it.

pinkandgreenflower · 19/09/2025 08:24

Aware I’ve posted quite a bit about my own personal experience on this thread, but there’s far too many ‘this was my friend’s experience 20 years ago’ anecdotes on here.

Education in the UK has changed quite dramatically over the past few decades, and what was someone’s experience with private or state back then isn’t very relevant. OP would be better off looking at the stats and offerings of schools local to her, and making a decision based on that.

twistyizzy · 19/09/2025 08:16

CallMeMessy · 19/09/2025 08:11

I know plenty of people who went to private school and flunked everything. Close friend’s father is STILL pissed off 20 years later that she ‘wasted’ his money by getting ok GCSEs and had to resit A levels despite the money he chucked at her education. Then she had the gall not to go to a top tier uni too, before choosing a career she loved over a ££££ corporate career.

So then how can it be claimed she's had any "privilege" or "advantage" due to her education? How has it given her an unfair advantage over a state school peer?

CallMeMessy · 19/09/2025 08:11

I know plenty of people who went to private school and flunked everything. Close friend’s father is STILL pissed off 20 years later that she ‘wasted’ his money by getting ok GCSEs and had to resit A levels despite the money he chucked at her education. Then she had the gall not to go to a top tier uni too, before choosing a career she loved over a ££££ corporate career.

Calliopespa · 18/09/2025 21:26

Newbutoldfather · 18/09/2025 13:44

Seeing education as an end itself is very laudable, but also a luxury belief.

Poor people very rarely see it that way.

Well maybe to some degree that plays a part in the disparity of outcomes being posited? People tend to succeed with things they are genuinely passionate about, rather than things they do as a means to an end.

In any case, know people who are not rich who definitely see education as an end in itself. Highly intellectually inclined people very often do. They are drawn to it.

Wellheresastate · 18/09/2025 19:09

Newbutoldfather · 18/09/2025 13:44

Seeing education as an end itself is very laudable, but also a luxury belief.

Poor people very rarely see it that way.

That may, sadly, be true. If so, I would think there a whole host of cultural and socioeconomic reasons for this. But when you aren’t wealthy, taking education seriously and getting what you can out of it just seems even more like common sense than when you are privileged. Your mind is one of the few tools you have that can help alter your circumstances and offer you enjoyment, escape, ambition, clarity etc. I think the luxury is more the belief that you are capable of, and entitled to, nurture that and seek out success in whatever form is meaningful to you.

When the ultra rich believe that an elite education in and of itself means a certain kind of job/life outcome that is equally foolhardy. A lot depends on what you do with the opportunities you have.

Plenty of people mess up their lives, or are unhappy in a range of ways for a whole host of reasons, whether or not they are highly educated. Some of this is beyond our control, as life is not always predictable.

MyElatedUmberFinch · 18/09/2025 16:36

Brainstorm23 · 18/09/2025 13:43

We're 23 pages in and i still haven't a clue what the actual problem is for OP.

How old is this hypothetical genius who's missing out on being a future master of the universe by virtue of not being able to attend a Top 10 private school as opposed to a lesser private school or outstanding state school.

Or a mixture of state primary and private secondary.

Newbutoldfather · 18/09/2025 13:44

Seeing education as an end itself is very laudable, but also a luxury belief.

Poor people very rarely see it that way.

Brainstorm23 · 18/09/2025 13:43

We're 23 pages in and i still haven't a clue what the actual problem is for OP.

How old is this hypothetical genius who's missing out on being a future master of the universe by virtue of not being able to attend a Top 10 private school as opposed to a lesser private school or outstanding state school.

pinkandgreenflower · 18/09/2025 13:28

Obviously so many opinions on this thread... but I think one thing that's important for you to ultimately remember, OP, is that we can't ultimately predict what the future holds for our kids or even, to an extent, our financial circs as a family.

Sending our kids to a private school has worked out brilliantly for my kids, but this wasn't a given. We liked the school we chose, its ethos and what it could offer - both on with teaching and on the co-curricular front. Happily, this all worked out. But it might not have done. They could have been miserable. They could have struggled academically and their school wouldn't have been right for them. ..

While the 'plan' seems to have worked out for it being a great school for our kids, less clear was the impact it would have on our own financial stability. We knew fees would rise over time but not to the extent they have, particularly with VAT. Both mine and DH's incomes are not as healthy as we expected them to be at this stage in our careers for a whole host of reasons that we didn't foresee...

We can just about manage for the moment but I know many who had to pull their kids out because of VAT. Another family whose very big income hasn't been replaced following redundancy (and not being able to secure another position), so they had to leave the school too.

Point is, you just have to move forwards and do what you think is best and manageable for your child/your family right now. Do I regret sending my kids to private school? So far, no - it's been great. Do I worry about my dire pension pot? Yes...but there's time to make more money. I'll fret about it more as I approach retirement, if I get there! Could be hit by a bus tomorrow and all that...

CarrieDS · 18/09/2025 11:36

So, my question is why your husband is opposed to private if you can comfortably afford it? Is there more to the situation ie. does he feel you cannot afford it, or is he fundamentally against private schools for any reason?

If you can definitely afford it more than comfortably (as well as your home and holidays etc etc) from Reception to A Levels, and it means that much to you, then I wouldn’t give up. If he is otherwise supportive he surely would come around. Has he visited the school, that seems to win people over.

From my experience I went to a top 10 UK Public School. My dad taught in a very prestigious prep school. You can’t get a much ‘better’ education than I had. Yet my kids (12,10,8) are all in local states schools. My kids have a much less pressured, much happier education than I had and we can afford great holidays, day trips and tutors when we need them. When my eldest gets to GCSE we will probably spend £5-8k on tutors over a 2 year period…. this is obvs vastly cheaper than 14 years of private schools. I would also point out that my husband went to state schools, and we both ended up at the same university (Russell group again, top uni) and it was at this uni where my husband met a lot of public school kids and all in all, made all the ‘connections’ people talk about making at school, while at uni.

I do believe there is an edge to state school kids, that private schools kids don’t have. A bit more resilience. Unless you go to boarding school like I did, you have to be quite independent.

I’m a big fan of a good state school (Ofsyed Good or Outstanding) and then giving the child everything you can outside of that by holidays, clubs, friends, outings and happy family home and building resilience to get them through life, and getting them into the best uni possible maybe with help of tutors.

Whatever you decide own it, all will be fine!

CallMeMessy · 18/09/2025 09:20

‘Completely agree with this. Education is not just a means to a financial/career end and there are no guarantees of what YOUR child will take from it.’

In our race for best school, best GCSE results, best 6th form, best university, best graduate scheme, best company etc etc I think this gets completely lost. I’m WC and my non-academic cousins who did apprenticeships, became tradies and the like have been hugely successful and work in fulfilling jobs, being their own bosses, running their own businesses.

There so much more to school than looking successful on paper, and I say that as someone who looks very successful on paper!

Calliopespa · 18/09/2025 08:59

And the direction of travel is that more inroads will be made.

But my intention wasn't really to debate the ins and outs of those policies as much as to point out to op that plenty (and an increasing number) of fee-paying parents are dismayed by outcomes at university and job application level.

Her posts, it seems to me, are predicated very much upon private education being some sort of automatic entry or golden ticket, and she isn't alone in that; many people seem to expect to "get the fees back and some" and are driven by that as a financial incentive. My point is more that the fees cannot be viewed as a down payment on these particular advantages and the decision needs to be a more holistic one: will the particular school under consideration have provided things you would think merited the fees even if he doesn't get his first (or second or third) choice university?

As another pp pointed out, many of the perceived advantages are background factors in the child's life irrespective of the school, and it can be hard to see what to attribute to what. I'm not against private education, I am just trying to be very honest with op about what to consider.

Littlemissbubbblles · 18/09/2025 08:34

@Movingonfeelssad
Maybe look at it another way.
With your achievements and incomes, and therefore obviously lifestyle…… Will your child not feel like a fish out of water at a state school?

Bubblesgun · 18/09/2025 08:14

Movingonfeelssad · 17/09/2025 21:55

Not Eton specifically, but the thought process was exactly that if you don’t get on the right track, the chances are minimal. And deciding for state was kind of missing the boat unless the child is exceptional. It is not lost on us that friends and acquaintances in the very well paid professions (ie £300k basic, 6 -7 figures bonuses) consider these schools a must for their children, leading to the very few universities their employers would recruit from. As mentioned, we visited all schools in our area and the other privates were not more impressive than the local state one

Wow. I dont even know where to start. It s not about you, it s about your child 😠

choosing a school is for your child benefit not for value add or ego boost. It is to “to encourage and support your child into developing their full potential”.

remove the chip on both your shoulders and out back your child at the centre of the conversation.

you dont say the age so i am assuming starting reception.

  • what does your child like and needs right now
  • what will he/she needs at the end of primary to go onto secondary

then review age 7 move to another school or stay until 11+, or move on to a school for 13+ by 7 you can also starts asking your child for their preference not that they have the decision power but it s good to teach them to be a part of a conversation.
^ by the way you were asking, that is one way of instilling those intangibles you talked about.
your child is the centre of that conversation not both your egos.

deep down you are still the girl that worked hard to be where she is through sheer grit and you should be proud of yourself. Dont hide your success and wealth what you did is an achievement, but when you speak the way you do about schools and whats important your chip comes back 10 fold.
and dont get me started on your husband ego.

DaisyChain505 · 18/09/2025 08:05

Movingonfeelssad · 17/09/2025 21:01

Thank you for the message, grateful for the thorough explanation. We visited both schools extensively and the private one sends more than half to Clarendon schools. The families we have seen at the networking functions are mainly investment bankers / city lawyers and the odd business owners. Some international families, mainly Chinese. we observed this and formed some impressions. I think his feelings are valid but he has not been super forthcoming about them and I wanted to be tactful

You keep focusing on what job your child could end up in and how rich they could be. Have you ever stopped to think about what will actually make them happy and content in life rather that their finances?

38thparallel · 18/09/2025 08:01

Not enough.

@Blossomtoes they evidently made allowances for George Abaraonye, the Oxford student who cheered about Charlie Kirk’s murder who got ABB in his A levels.
No privately educated applicant would even get an interview with those grades.

CatkinToadflax · 18/09/2025 07:55

twistyizzy · 18/09/2025 07:50

I agree however equally there are posters who claim to send their kids to the worst schools just to teach them "grit". I find that equally as baffling.

Yes that’s a very good point! Completely agree that’s equally as bewildering.

twistyizzy · 18/09/2025 07:50

CatkinToadflax · 18/09/2025 07:44

I do find it strange that people want their children to attend specific schools merely because they are ‘impressive’ or prestigious, rather than because they suit the needs of their child.

I agree however equally there are posters who claim to send their kids to the worst schools just to teach them "grit". I find that equally as baffling.

Tiswa · 18/09/2025 07:44

Hold on @Movingonfeelssad he could afford it but not so he has enough for pensions?

look I went to private school with much wealthy parents and it was great!

anyway you need to take out all of your crap and figure out what is best for your child (and for you)

and re look at the others I think they might be a better fit

CatkinToadflax · 18/09/2025 07:44

I do find it strange that people want their children to attend specific schools merely because they are ‘impressive’ or prestigious, rather than because they suit the needs of their child.