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Movingonfeelssad · 16/09/2025 12:56

Hey,
just came to the realization that private school for my child will not happen. Local State is good, cannot complain really, he will be fine, but will always wonder what doors private would have opened. We can afford it, mainly because of my income and this created so much pain in my husband that I decided to let it go. As a self made person from a very underprivileged background, it took so much grit and determination to get to where I am right now financially and I find it slightly challenging not to aim for the best for my child. But the value for money makes no sense with today’s fees and increasing costs, lifestyle creep etc…
what is the point of being successful as a professional if I need to hide it all the time? And before you say, yes my husband is very supportive of me otherwise…

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twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 12:20

CallMeMessy · 20/09/2025 11:57

‘It’s not always the case. In my experience of interviewing graduates for roles: most of the state secondary educated candidates trumped the privately educated in people skills’

agreed. Can’t remember the last time a private educated candidate was hired into the grad programmes - certainly not in the last few years.

Yet that PP couldn't tell me how they could positively identify which school someone went to OR how they would classify someone who had been to both state AND independent schools.

Maybe you can explain? Are you looking up schools prior to interview? How far do you go back and how would you assess someone who went to independent secondary then state 6th form because that's incredibly common.

CallMeMessy · 20/09/2025 11:57

‘It’s not always the case. In my experience of interviewing graduates for roles: most of the state secondary educated candidates trumped the privately educated in people skills’

agreed. Can’t remember the last time a private educated candidate was hired into the grad programmes - certainly not in the last few years.

Manthide · 20/09/2025 11:41

Dd1 has awesome people skills - state primary, private secondary, her dh's are pretty good, private all the way. They are both doctors.
Both my elder dd feel that going to state primary made them more streetwise than their exclusively privately educated peers and plan on doing the same for their dc. Both of their dhs only went to private schools (one to a Clarendon one - never heard that term before) and agree with them.

Manthide · 20/09/2025 11:35

I have met people who have gone to all types of schools, some have been traumatised by bullying at both state and private schools and one was traumatised by boarding school. In that case his parents lived in Australia and he was at boarding school in England so he had some abandonment issues. The issues were not causes by the school. Boarding schools have come a long way and dd3's friend is a weekly boarder so still goes home every weekend.

38thparallel · 20/09/2025 11:14

muddymuckymoody · Today 10:25
It’s not always the case. In my experience of interviewing graduates for roles: most of the state secondary educated candidates trumped the privately educated in people skills

Maybe you can answer my question which has so far gone unanswered: most posters on here say state education is better than private; privately educated people are traumatised by their experiences; the pupils are entitled; their parents have wasted their money; and you have said state school educated candidates had superior people skills so more employable.
So why is private education ‘buying privilege’?

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 11:07

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 11:06

Thank you for the clarification on how my lived experience and thoughts are wrong. I’m sorry that you’re so angry, it must be hard to be so close to losing your temper all the time. I can recommend journaling and mindfulness as a start point.

So now you are being passive aggressive?? Yet I'm the one in the wrong. Take your own advice and stop engaging

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 11:06

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:59

So then don't say ridiculous sweeping comments like you did. I didn't swear at you, I said a statement was bollocks. That's not swearing at you.

I also never mentioned childminder/nursery. I clearly said primary/secondary + 6th form because the secondary + 6th form ARE on application forms. You said you could identify particular schools.

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Thank you for the clarification on how my lived experience and thoughts are wrong. I’m sorry that you’re so angry, it must be hard to be so close to losing your temper all the time. I can recommend journaling and mindfulness as a start point.

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:59

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:55

You’ve sworn at me: that’s attacking in my book. You’ve been extremely rude. I clearly wouldn’t be able to distinguish as people don’t tend to put childminder, nursery and primary on their cvs. It was obviously a long time ago as their schooling was still allowed to be there.

I’ll heed your advice and come away from MN. Thank you for starting my day so nicely for me, and reminding me that the internet is not a safe place for me to be. I’ll head back out to the real world now where I don’t get cursed at!

So then don't say ridiculous sweeping comments like you did. I didn't swear at you, I said a statement was bollocks. That's not swearing at you.

I also never mentioned childminder/nursery. I clearly said primary/secondary + 6th form because the secondary + 6th form ARE on application forms. You said you could identify particular schools.

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:55

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:51

I'm not attacking you, I'm challenging a sweeping statement. You are unable to back up that statement with further Qs etc. That's not attacking you but if you feel it is then maybe MN isn't for you.

You’ve sworn at me: that’s attacking in my book. You’ve been extremely rude. I clearly wouldn’t be able to distinguish as people don’t tend to put childminder, nursery and primary on their cvs. It was obviously a long time ago as their schooling was still allowed to be there.

I’ll heed your advice and come away from MN. Thank you for starting my day so nicely for me, and reminding me that the internet is not a safe place for me to be. I’ll head back out to the real world now where I don’t get cursed at!

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:51

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:48

Why are you attacking me? I wasn’t being rude, mean or prejudiced. I was trying to help OP from my own personal experience. I think you ought to consider how you conduct yourself online.

I'm not attacking you, I'm challenging a sweeping statement. You are unable to back up that statement with further Qs etc. That's not attacking you but if you feel it is then maybe MN isn't for you.

topcat2014 · 20/09/2025 10:49

I would save the money you would have spent and buy the DC a house when the time comes - it will benefit them more in the long run

Is this "connections" thing really a thing anymore in the world of work - with HR gatekeeping everything, institution blind recruitment etc.

After all - most jobs need a degree - and universities are generally "state" aren't they?

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:48

Why are you attacking me? I wasn’t being rude, mean or prejudiced. I was trying to help OP from my own personal experience. I think you ought to consider how you conduct yourself online.

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:46

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:43

Honestly you’re being pedantic. I did say “when I was interviewing” it was many years ago. I’m in a completely different field now. I was trying to ease OP fears about one aspect of her worries.

So basically you can't. Those schools have all been around for many many years.
You still haven't answered how you would tell a child who had been educated in both state and independent schools and how their personal skills would compare.

It's just yet more prejudiced bollocks but thanks for confirming.

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:43

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:39

I am challenging your claim to know who comes from which type of school.
So according to your statement
"strange brain that remembers things such as school names. It’s not particularly hard to distinguish in many cases by name either" which of these is an independent school: Crossley Heath Grammar, Yarm School, Teesdale School?
Without looking them up. Because its not hard to distinguish.

Honestly you’re being pedantic. I did say “when I was interviewing” it was many years ago. I’m in a completely different field now. I was trying to ease OP fears about one aspect of her worries.

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:39

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:35

No, just extensive experience in managing graduates and a strange brain that remembers things such as school names. It’s not particularly hard to distinguish in many cases by name either.

I gave my personal opinion in how I felt graduates came across at interview, I am unsure as to why an experience that you can have no insight into - unless you were sat next to me in every interview; has rattled you so much?

I am challenging your claim to know who comes from which type of school.
So according to your statement
"strange brain that remembers things such as school names. It’s not particularly hard to distinguish in many cases by name either" which of these is an independent school: Crossley Heath Grammar, Yarm School, Teesdale School?
Without looking them up. Because its not hard to distinguish.

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:35

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:28

What about the DC who were educated at both state and independent eg state primary, independent secondary and stare 6th form? How do they compare?
Very few DC do all through independent so majority mix and match state + independent.

I'm surprised you have the time to search through all their schools to identify which type they went to at each stage.

No, just extensive experience in managing graduates and a strange brain that remembers things such as school names. It’s not particularly hard to distinguish in many cases by name either.

I gave my personal opinion in how I felt graduates came across at interview, I am unsure as to why an experience that you can have no insight into - unless you were sat next to me in every interview; has rattled you so much?

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:29

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:27

When I was interviewing grads most would include GCSE/A-Level results alongside the name of the setting

So you search up the type of each school by name for both GCSE and A level when interviewing?

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:28

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:25

It’s not always the case. In my experience of interviewing graduates for roles: most of the state secondary educated candidates trumped the privately educated in people skills.

What about the DC who were educated at both state and independent eg state primary, independent secondary and stare 6th form? How do they compare?
Very few DC do all through independent so majority mix and match state + independent.

I'm surprised you have the time to search through all their schools to identify which type they went to at each stage.

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:27

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:26

Do you specifically ask them which type of school they went to?

When I was interviewing grads most would include GCSE/A-Level results alongside the name of the setting

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:26

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:25

It’s not always the case. In my experience of interviewing graduates for roles: most of the state secondary educated candidates trumped the privately educated in people skills.

Do you specifically ask them which type of school they went to?

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:25

Movingonfeelssad · 17/09/2025 12:33

And how do you “buy” the enrichment that is instilled every day in the private school experience please? The “private school energy” that makes candidates come across as great culture fits, leadership high potential in interviews or over the course of a career. I am clear on the hard skills and work ethic but those are never the reason why people succeed past 100k ish type of jobs

It’s not always the case. In my experience of interviewing graduates for roles: most of the state secondary educated candidates trumped the privately educated in people skills.

CallMeMessy · 20/09/2025 10:22

VickyEadieofThigh · 20/09/2025 10:02

Yes, I find it astonishing that some parents look at their small human and think 'Must ensure she goes to a school that guarantees she'll get a job paying stacky millions' - rather than 'I really want my child to be happy, no matter what career or life she wants to lead when she's an adult'.

It’s disappointing for many parents I think, they have this vision of what their kid will be, spend a load of money then the kid doesn’t get into Oxbridge or doesn’t want to, and doesn’t want to be a doctor or lawyer or corporate titan and they’re devastated.
Success is measured in £££ a lot of the time rather than in job satisfaction and happiness. My nurse sibling had the grades etc to be a doctor and it took my dad a long time to get his head around the fact that she really preferred nursing! And is good at it, very well paid, very senior, loves her job and is only a few years off NHS retirement too if she chooses.

twistyizzy · 20/09/2025 10:21

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:19

See Blundells re: safe

So 1 school = all schools?

How about the Mossbourne academy with safeguarding issues? 1 school does not equate to all schools.

muddymuckymoody · 20/09/2025 10:19

Buddingbudde · 16/09/2025 13:18

And for me the advantage of private is a safe, calm educational environment. This allows my child to get good grades while developing into a happy, well rounded individual. Private do ‘happy, well rounded’ really well. Future career is less of a concern for us.

See Blundells re: safe

AliTheMinx · 20/09/2025 10:19

I completely understand, OP. My son is in Year 9 and has been at private school since Reception. We are not the stereotypical rich parents by any means. It has been a huge squeeze and struggle, but I truly believe it was the right decision for my son. The school is known for being academic and he has absolutely flourished there and is unbelievably happy and doing well. He works extremely hard and the extracurricular opportunities are incredible. He has an academic scholarship, so 10% of his Senior School fees are covered. Our local schools when he was about to start school were not good, which influenced our decision, but had they been good, we may not have looked at private school at all (although I went to one from 11+, and am forever grateful). My husband did not go to.private school, but we were both blown away when we went to the open day at his school, and signed him up there and then! I think you are right to say that it's natural to want the best for your child, and it felt as though we were doing this. Now he is there and so happy, the thought of taking him out is heartbreaking. My parents had to step in and help financially when VAT came in, as that was crippling for us, but we didn't want to move him, as he is so happy. We are fortunate to just have one child and he is the only grandchild on my side, so we can just about make it work. However, I think if we were looking at schools for the first time now, the high fees would mean we would have ruled out private school from.the outset purely on cost. The fees have absolutely skyrocketed over the last 9 years in a way I didn't expect.