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To think there is some kind of weird push towards the far right?

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Checkcheckout · 16/09/2025 01:07

I’m the first to admit that I am not the best informed - I prefer to keep my life stress free and simple as much as possible, and don’t have a TV, don’t read papers, and only listen to the radio when I’m driving (which is quite often). For my own mental health I prefer to live in my own little bubble.

But even with my limited exposure to media, I’ve noticed on Radio 2, both on the news and Jeremy Vine’s show, Reform are being given so much air time considering their paltry amount of MPs, the polls are being discussed regularly even though we’re years from an election. More than once listening to the radio I’ve thought the way they’re talking makes it sound like Reform winning the next election is a done deal, and thought to myself that this is how self fulfilling prophecies happen.

My algorithms on FB are seriously messed up. Despite having never been remotely interested in anything in the least bit right wing, all of a sudden I’m getting endless posts from knuckle dragging ‘patriot’ groups that I don’t even follow, with really horrendous and openly racist comments, thousands of them, which somehow FB are allowing to remain even though any kind of hate speech has always been censored on there. Why are these posts suddenly being allowed and pushed in my face?

Alongside this there seems to be a new story pretty much every day about the latest scandal involving Labour (again reported by the BBC), ok these things aren’t great although compared to the Tories’ rap list from their last spell in government, are fairly small fry really. It seems like there’s an active push for people to rebel away from the left just as the far right are gaining momentum.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I talking shite?

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loulouljh · 16/09/2025 09:34

GB News is regularly winning in the ratings....

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 09:33

Goldenbear · 16/09/2025 09:26

Well they are competing with the media giants, they need to attract viewings figures to justify the licence. They are currently trying to win back the exodus to GB news for example!

Exodus? Where are these extra people coming from? I feel a lot of the polling and statistics and numbers for these things are completely false. Who, other than the terminally unemployed men, is tuning in to GB News? Who has time? They don't have the concentration span to watch it for any length of time!

LegoNinjago · 16/09/2025 09:31

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 09:25

It's easy to get your algorithm back to where it's safe for you, just watch a couple of videos within your comfort zone and AI will do the rest, it's very likely you watched a video and that triggered the AI.

Nothing is being forced upon you.

Nothing is being forced upon you.

You are being very very naive

loulouljh · 16/09/2025 09:31

Forourfuture · 16/09/2025 07:31

Specifically what though? And in your every day life how does immigration effect you?

I didn't mention immigration in my post!

Oioisavaloy27 · 16/09/2025 09:30

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 09:26

If anyone is to blame, it's Blair. An evil man in many respects.

You missed the question, how do you feel about Reform wanting to remove your human rights?

LegoNinjago · 16/09/2025 09:29

PegDope · 16/09/2025 09:25

Everyone in the world should watch this video and then delete their Meta accounts.

https://www.ted.com/talks/carole_cadwalladr_facebook_s_role_in_brexit_and_the_threat_to_democracy

This👆
Not only Meta. Most definitely Twitter too. Its everywhere

Caramarie · 16/09/2025 09:28

WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 16/09/2025 01:13

Have you thought about what has made people so disillusioned with the left that they are gravitating toward the right?

We haven't had the left in power for donkeys years! We've had a year of centre right labour under starmer and 14 years of right/centre right tories!

Checkcheckout · 16/09/2025 09:28

InterestedDad37 · 16/09/2025 04:55

The OP's claim of limited exposure to the media is followed by an in-depth discussion of algorithms and how politics is discussed on a variety of media, suggesting a knowledge beyond that of most everyday folk. So I don't believe OP lives in thker own bubble of semi-ignorance.

Believe me or not, I don’t mind. I have a good working knowledge of the triangular relationship between politics, media, and public opinion, because my degree involved studying this. That was almost 10 years ago. I’ve felt politically homeless for some time, and that combined with personal mental health struggles has meant that I’ve disengaged myself from the news and politics as much as possible, whereas I used to be a lot more interested. I don’t go seeking out what’s going on in current affairs nowadays, but it’s impossible to avoid it all.

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LegoNinjago · 16/09/2025 09:27

BleinhamOrange · 16/09/2025 09:04

Immigration is another tools being used to destabilise the west.

Absolutely. It is now well known that Lukashenko orchestrated steady influx of migrants from Iraq, Syria etc

Goldenbear · 16/09/2025 09:26

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 08:32

But why the BBC? It doesn't rely on revenue. It is meant to be balanced, not populist clickbait. Educate, Entertain, Inform.
The mis-reporting of numbers at the Anti-Brexit march is where I first noticed it; a few hundred turned into a few thousand when a million or more turned up.

Well they are competing with the media giants, they need to attract viewings figures to justify the licence. They are currently trying to win back the exodus to GB news for example!

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 09:26

Oioisavaloy27 · 16/09/2025 09:21

Because they are telling you they will stop the boats? Because Farrage messed Brexit up immigration numbers were higher than ever and even though Farrage screwed the country with Brexit and they will not stop immigration all they will do is make the country a million times worst but Farrage doesn't care he has a German passport. Have you even read their policies? What do you think about them wanting to remove your human rights?

If anyone is to blame, it's Blair. An evil man in many respects.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 16/09/2025 09:25

FindingTheBalance · 16/09/2025 09:21

In short answer, yes, at least on FB. I'm suddenly getting a lot of right wing posts with very angry, racist commentators. It's made me feel a bit sick and I've started using FB less.

Exactly. Between the racism and the sheer number of adverts, it's massively reduced my usage.

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 09:25

It's easy to get your algorithm back to where it's safe for you, just watch a couple of videos within your comfort zone and AI will do the rest, it's very likely you watched a video and that triggered the AI.

Nothing is being forced upon you.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 16/09/2025 09:24

OP I am noticing the same with FB, the algorithm is giving me more and more US-style right-wing content. All the tech billionaires are supporting Trump now, so Musk, Zuckerberg et al are allowing a lot of Cambridge Analytica-style tweaking of their platforms.

This makes complete sense. I'm so left wing I'm at the end of the continuum and I'm still seeing the racists and fascist posts daily despite zero engagement.

Forourfuture · 16/09/2025 09:23

KnittyNell · 16/09/2025 09:11

I will be voting for Reform, the only party that will get me to the ballot box.

Could I ask why? (Not being snarky BTW just interested).

Goldenbear · 16/09/2025 09:23

IfNot · 16/09/2025 08:49

Yeah, I was wondering about this too. Then I realised- journalism is basically dead. The days of there being real investigative reporting, nuance and an attempt at neutrality are gone.
The BBC like the lot of the media outlets are all about clicks. I don’t think that it’s hit me until now.
I know media and press has always been skewed a bit towards certain parties but now it’s like the ONLY agenda is traffic.
I’m shocked too OP at the way BBC are pushing Reform like they are the inevitable next step.
And since social media became so ubiquitous the world has gone fucking nuts. Trump, Brexit, now this pushing of fascism. It’s scary.
( I don’t include the fight for sex based rights in this- that was a grass roots fight and is about actual human rights- the opposite of fascism)

Yes, what ever happened to fairness, objectivity, and responsibility in journalism. I mean I know there are a minority of journalists still with the agenda of reporting on the truth than journalism as entertainment but it's hard to spot them these days!

FindingTheBalance · 16/09/2025 09:21

In short answer, yes, at least on FB. I'm suddenly getting a lot of right wing posts with very angry, racist commentators. It's made me feel a bit sick and I've started using FB less.

Oioisavaloy27 · 16/09/2025 09:21

KnittyNell · 16/09/2025 09:11

I will be voting for Reform, the only party that will get me to the ballot box.

Because they are telling you they will stop the boats? Because Farrage messed Brexit up immigration numbers were higher than ever and even though Farrage screwed the country with Brexit and they will not stop immigration all they will do is make the country a million times worst but Farrage doesn't care he has a German passport. Have you even read their policies? What do you think about them wanting to remove your human rights?

RandomUserName96 · 16/09/2025 09:21

KnittyNell · 16/09/2025 09:11

I will be voting for Reform, the only party that will get me to the ballot box.

Genuine question: why? Like, what policies of theirs do you support and believe in?

Underthinker · 16/09/2025 09:19

VoulezVouz · 16/09/2025 01:49

@FirstCuppais on the right track. This has been occurring for at least 15 years or more. It’s just becoming much more visible now. It’s my belief that the aim has been to create destabilisation in the Western world using existing pressure points such as religion, immigration and sex rights. To do this, they utilise troll bot farms to influence public opinion across multiple platforms. The primary countries behind this are Russia, China, Belarus, North Korea and possibly Iran.

I don't really understand the claim of troll bot influence with regard to sex based rights.

Is the idea that people wouldn't have been bothered about the issue otherwise? Unless you think Russia influenced politicians like Sturgeon and Theresa May to support self ID, and various business and institutions to fire gender critical women, purely in order to get an angry pushback, that seems like an over elaborate explanation.

RandomUserName96 · 16/09/2025 09:19

WallaceinAnderland · 16/09/2025 01:35

Is every party that used to be right, far right now?

Id argue that any/every party has moved further right on the political scale purely by default, caused by the lack of any real left wing/left leaning parties now.

Labour, traditionally left wing and more socialist, havent been left wing for a long long time. Blair brought Labour to the centre, and we all know what happened when Corbyn threatened to return it to its roots.

So if everything has moved to the right, then those traditionally right wingers have moved further right

LegoNinjago · 16/09/2025 09:17

Digdongdoo · 16/09/2025 09:11

I don't know about a "push", but it is worrying how many people don't seem to understand how algorithms work or can't recognise AI. There's a lot of people very angry about things they can't even seem to define well.

It is even more worrying how many people don’t seem to understand how places like Meta allow their algorithms be manipulated by companies like Cambridge Analytica etc

Agrumpyknitter · 16/09/2025 09:15

We’re getting flooded with a lot of right wing American money for a reason. The tech companies will have less oversight and the oil and gas giants don’t want green energy. Trump tried to get our NHS last time he was in power and Farage will give it to them making himself lots of money in the process.

The fact that we don’t know who paid for Farage’s house in Clacton and the media are downplaying it. His partner couldn't afford the house so did Farage get her to pay for it thus saving lots of tax? the media that were calling for Angela Raynors blood are suspiciously quiet now.

Farage caused the whole thing with the boats. After Brexit the agreements we had with those countries to return migrants were no longer there so we couldn’t send those boats back.

BloominNora · 16/09/2025 09:14

BleinhamOrange · 16/09/2025 09:03

Even if only one British man in a thousand committed rape and one in five immigants committed rape then it would still be the case that the majority of rapes were committed by British men. Really yours is a nonsense argument, especially when we can exclude the immigrants.

No - the arguement of let's ban all immigrants and reduce the less than 10% of sexual assaults they commit and 15% which receive convictions while ignoring the 85% commited by British nationals and actively colluding with known abusers is nonsense.

If you want to reduce sexual assault then campaign against all sexual assault, not just those assaults that are committed by people you dont like.