To think Keir Starmer is looking more ridiculous by the day

Labour are not going well, it’s not just the pp who has noticed. Look at polling outside mn.

Oh give over. Are you for real? Or just going to the most self absorbed post prize?

You’ll be shocked at them nationalizing trains next or considering wealth taxes. Get thee to Dubai if this bothers you. It’s not like they hid it, nor that it threatened to melt down the basis of government borrowing….

There is nothing that this Labour government has done that matches it for sheer incompetence. Nothing.

They implemented a children’s education tax!

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Of course it was Cameron's fault. It was down to him that there was a referendum and the campaign was badly misjudged and executed.

If we've got to the stage where people seriously think there was no harm in Johnson lying to the monarch, I wonder about the judgement of the electorate.

The point of democracy is that you have to accept the judgement of the electorate, even when you don’t like it. But I get the impression that you don’t really like democracy at all. In one post you say that Brexit is Cameron’s fault because he 1) let the electorate vote and 2) didn’t tell the electorate what to do in the right way so that they gave the wrong answer. In the next you suggest that our democracy is going down the drain because the (elected) Prime Minister supposedly lied to the (unelected and constitutionally powerless) monarch. If what you mean is that the electorate is too dim witted to be trusted and you’d prefer a paternalistic monarchy, well, fine, don’t be shy!— I disagree, but I respect your right to hold a quirky political view.

Thing is, I don’t understand Mandelson either. Except Mandelson is greedy man, loves money and power and is extremely effective at handling those people. He had his own personal seat at the preferred restaurant of the MAGA crowd and his own special plaque from them. But his emails to Epstein are repellent. They spin away the most disgusting criminality. Starmer should answer some questions about that except I fear the answer is rather limp; he let McSweeney handle it all for him. Well that really is poor judgment. And who is in charge if that’s what happens? Mandelson apparently all over this government and its decisions by proxy?

What about the u turns on winter fuel and welfare reform?

Unfortunately, I voted him in. Only because the Tories had been so incompetent, and I’d grown to quite like Starmer in opposition on the occasions I watched him in Parliament. But I hugely regret doing so. I don’t think he’s strong enough to lead us, and his judgement is really poor. I think prime ministers need strong capable people around them to advise, and unfortunately he has no-one on the front benches who he can rely on.

To me the only really inexplicable screw up is the Mandelson thing.

Yes, this 👏

Andy Burnham - please rescue the country.

All this squabbling about sleaze and incompetence is a gift to Reform. I dont think Reform would have the polling they do if Labour and the Tories weren't falling over themselves to make stupid decisions. Yes, the last Tory Government was awful. That's the reason Labour were voting in on a huge majority. Only to completely make a mess of it. Cancelling Rwanda on day one (which may have been the right idea) only to replace it with....nothing other than 'smash the gangs'.
Surely Labour knew they would be forming the next Government? But they seemed so flat footed from the start. I can't believe after a year in Government, Minsters are still trotting out the line 'We inherited.......at the start of every interview.

Yep spot on.

Forgot also that RS was fined for lockdown parties. However I do concede in terms of sleaze he was far better than his predecessors.

Not everyone will feel as you do about Starmer, Reeves and Labour. The general sentiment is very low for them atm.

No, you "give over". The primary duty of a democratically elected government is to carry out the wishes of the electorate. He asked them. It's not hard.

I loathe him almost as much as I do Blair. At least Blair was intelligent and was able to grasp the machinery of state and make it work for him. Starmer is just utterly useless.

Nothing yet matches Liz Truss and her brief, clueless, economically incompetent tenure. Nothing. Labour must work far harder to hit her impressive lows

Labour is the reason we’re going to be shafted by Reform. Who knew anyone could be worse than the last lot 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

It’s very relevant - the behaviour of his predecessors is a yard stick by which to measure him. He’s clean Asa a whistle compared to BJ.

It’s a very good 18th century word.

To you, but you are quite loyal. The general public find Starmer and co lacking going by the polls.

Who did you vote for in 2024 with your first rate mind?

Yes I know but it is seldom used that way

The election of Liz Truss was ridiculous. How did it happen? This was once the natural party of Government.

There is nothing that this Labour government has done that matches it for sheer incompetence. Nothing.

Surely that’s Labour currently with only 11% approval and 70% disapproval. Possibly even moved since Mandelson / Rayner debacle.