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To not want my daughter near a little boy at school after what I saw this morning?

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Editormedi · 15/09/2025 16:14

Am I being silly or is this worrying?

So at drop off this morning I saw something that really unsettled me. There’s a little boy in dd’s class (year 1) and when his parents brought him in he completely lost it. I mean properly lashing out. He was kicking his dad hard in the shins, screaming at his mum to “shut up” over and over, trying to smack her face. It went on for a good few minutes and everyone in the playground was watching. The parents looked mortified but also a bit helpless, like this wasn’t the first time.

I know kids can have meltdowns and off days, I’m not judging that. But I have to admit it really worried me. If he’s like that with his parents what’s he like with the other dc? Dd is quite quiet and gentle and I don’t want her to end up on the receiving end.

Part of me thinks I should just leave it, it’s none of my business. Another part of me feels like I should say something to the teacher, or at least try to make sure dd keeps her distance. But I don’t want to be unfair on a 6 year old either, maybe he has SEN or something going on at home.

I just can’t shake the image of him hitting out and the thought of him doing the same to my dd makes me feel protective.

AIBU? Should I just ignore and stop overthinking, or would you mention it to the teacher? Handhold please. Flame me if I’m being PFB/OTT, but I came away really unsettled.

OP posts:
EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/09/2025 18:55

It is unlikely that he'll lash out in school, he'll probably settle down soon. I understand that it is frightening to witness.
I have been this parent, it's very isolating.

the7Vabo · 15/09/2025 18:47

namechangetheworld · 15/09/2025 18:28

If you witnessed someone who shares a classroom with your child kicking and punching and screaming at the school gates it wouldn't cross your mind that your own child could potentially be hurt in school? Pull the other one.

I would have concerns too, but would keep them to myself unless something happened to my child OP. There's a whole lot of speculation on this thread about this child, and nobody knows the real situation. Perhaps he has SEN and is only violent towards his parents. Perhaps he's just a horrible little bully.

Edited

A 6 year old & his own parents. I wouldnt assume that extended to other kids.

Id wait until there was an incident involving another child.

Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 15/09/2025 18:46

Please don’t try to make this your business, it is not and you sound very judgmental. I’m sure you are very fortunate to have never experienced a challenging, highly likely, very stressful situation with an anxious child.

WhiteNoiseBlur · 15/09/2025 18:45

Petitchat · 15/09/2025 18:30

And it's a shame that there's no point complaining.

If the DD witnessed this kind of behaviour in the home, it would be classed as she was seeing domestic violence.
But at school, that seems to be ok?

Yeah, it’s crap. School is such a weird time. Then you leave and are finally in an environment where people can’t just punch each other, scream, chuck chairs etc without serious fucking consequences.

crochetandcatz · 15/09/2025 18:45

As a mum of two children with additional needs and a one to one for SEN kids, YBUR, big time. Please learn empathy and how to mind your own business before you get a reputation for being a busy body!

Kirbert2 · 15/09/2025 18:44

Theroadt · 15/09/2025 18:36

It kind of is her business though if it is happening through the school day not just with parents. I think that was what OP meant - to talk to the teacher to get an idea what’s going on and some comfort as to what support isvin place - both for the little boy and also for his classmates who may (possibly) be having their classes disrupted. If she doesn’tvask, she won’t know. From that point of view it is very much her business imho

What support is in place for the boy is none of OP's business and the teacher wouldn't discuss that with another child's parent. If she says anything to the teacher, which I wouldn't after 1 incident outside of school, it needs to be about her child, not the other child.

Newsenmum · 15/09/2025 18:44

For goodness sake. You have no idea how lucky you are.

Jamesblonde2 · 15/09/2025 18:43

Tell her to keep away from him. Simple. He has parents/teachers/whoever else to deal with him. His issues are nothing to do with your young gentle daughter so don’t feel bad about telling her to keep her distance.

Frogs88 · 15/09/2025 18:42

But school is not just about children learning academic subjects. It also socialises children and non-SEND children have social and emotional benefits from being schooled with SEND children. They learn empathy and patience and realistically as adults they need to know how to respond to and communicate with people of varying levels of ability.

TeaBiscuitsNaptime · 15/09/2025 18:38

My kid was like that at times when they were younger. I was mortified too. My ex and I were going through a stressful time (separation) and it came out on their behaviour. Most parents ware sympathetic and supportive but a few parents kept their kids at a distance. The problem faded as they went on through primary school and thankfully they have turned out lovely. I'm greatful for the parents who stuck by us. I don't know what the situation is in your case but I thought I would share for information

Newname71 · 15/09/2025 18:36

sunshine244 · 15/09/2025 16:19

Yabu. Kids almost always show their worst behaviour to their parents. Probably overwhelmed and struggling with school- possibly with ASN too.

This^
My youngest has ADHD and absolutely hated school. I was attacked by him verbally and physically on a daily basis. Only me, never DH or anyone else. I was his “safe person”, he knows I love him no matter what.
He’s 18 now and an absolute dream.

Theroadt · 15/09/2025 18:36

Allswellthatendswelll · 15/09/2025 16:21

Yes YABU

It really is none of your business unless he's hurting your DD or at least disrupting her learning. The school isn't going to give you information about the SEN status of other children.

Children often act vastly different in school to at home anyway. As you say children do have tantrums. DS has had some terrible ones (he is younger) but would never have behaved like that in preschool.

Edited

It kind of is her business though if it is happening through the school day not just with parents. I think that was what OP meant - to talk to the teacher to get an idea what’s going on and some comfort as to what support isvin place - both for the little boy and also for his classmates who may (possibly) be having their classes disrupted. If she doesn’tvask, she won’t know. From that point of view it is very much her business imho

Tam285 · 15/09/2025 18:36

There's every chance that this child has ASD and is really struggling with the transition from home to school and the separation from parents. It may be why both parents are there. If it is an autistic meltdown then there will be absolutely nothing they can do while it is happening.

We had a child like this in DS's class, he was quiet as anything in the classroom but found the transition into school extremely hard. He didn't attend any parties either.

herbalteabag · 15/09/2025 18:36

There are obviously ongoing issues that the school are aware of. I wouldn't say anything to the school unless your daughter is upset or there has been an incident affecting her. There are children like this in most schools.

Sparklybutold · 15/09/2025 18:35

@EditormediI was in a similar situation where a high needs SEN child was being physically violent towards my kid at nursery. Although I sympathised with the other child and his parents, my place was to advocate for mine. I made this clear with all concerned.

in your situation I would gently enquire with my kid how this kid is with other kids. If this kid did have a tendency to lash out to other kids, and if they had lashed out at my kid, I would most definitely be acting on it and talking with teachers.

Although you saw a snapshot, I would be very surprised if this behaviour didn’t spill over at school so it is something I would closely monitor.

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 15/09/2025 18:33

I bet he calmed down and was perfectly well behaved. Maybe he has separation anxiety. Who knows. I’m sure your dad would tell you if he’s naughty in class, my DDs used to sing like canaries about their class, all that went on.

DinoLil · 15/09/2025 18:32

My house is just up the road from a primary school and dozens and dozens and dozens of small children walk past everyday.

Oh, the screaming, shouting, wailing in the morning. The sobbing in the afternoon that they're too tired to walk home.

The school is rated outstanding by OFSTED.

I walk my dog past some playtimes and, oh my word, the children are having an absolute blast! Sometimes they play music in the playground (think Elvis!). They're always happy, a lot wave at me when I go past. Not often, only once every other week or three.

Makes me chuckle every day because my DC wailed and howled and writhed about like rabid dogs on the way to nursery to about year 2. All perfectly normal. They got worse the closer we got.

You're overthinking @Editormedi All normal.

Overwhelmedandunderfed · 15/09/2025 18:31

greengreyblue · 15/09/2025 17:21

There is a process. Often chn that have severe SEND start mainstream and are leaving by year 2. We all know that’s what will happen but certain things need to be in place and you need parent agreement.

I’ve been a teacher for two decades and have a SEND child. What you’re saying just isn’t true. Most SEND children stay in mainstream school.

Petitchat · 15/09/2025 18:30

WhiteNoiseBlur · 15/09/2025 18:25

Hopefully this kid won’t turn out like that. But a proportion of every year group do - that is a fact. OP’s daughter will unfortunately witness all kinds of behaviour throughout her school career. This might scare her, she might get hurt, be it intentionally or unintentionally. She might hear terrible language and disrespectful behaviour. That behaviour may or may not be linked to that child’s neurodivergence. Sad for them - super sad for other kids to have to deal with. My point was, this is her reality for the rest of her school career. No point complaining.

And it's a shame that there's no point complaining.

If the DD witnessed this kind of behaviour in the home, it would be classed as she was seeing domestic violence.
But at school, that seems to be ok?

Borntorunfast · 15/09/2025 18:29

JamieCannister · 15/09/2025 17:10

In that case it would appear they should not be in school. If everyone is happier when they are not in school then perhaps they should not be at school.

Mainstream education should be about teaching the majority as much and as well as possible, in a safe environment, IMHO.

We need to ensure that kids who need masses of specialist care get it.

There are many, many children with ASD who can and should be in mainstream school. I was one of them, my daughter is one of them. We mask in school. We also get distressed and have meltdowns in school. As we grow older, because we're high functioning, we learn to mask better, and to keep the insane physical and emotional distress we feel on the inside.

When we are little, and first getting to grips with a level of emotional distress that a neurotypical person could never, ever understand - well, sometimes we get it wrong and it all comes pouring out. That's what a meltdown is. And, when they're over, we experience extreme shame.

To then say to us: oh, you shouldn't be around 'normal' people in a 'normal' school... yeah, that's not OK.

I now understand that many people really don't have empathy or lack the intellectual capacity to imagine a lived reality different to their own. Ironically, those are traits autistic people are often accused of. Double ironically, ASD people like me and my DD do have loads of empathy for others, and so I'm taking your post not as mean-spirited, but as simply unaware of what autism is actually like in real life.

We're not monsters to be locked away.

OP, this kid sounds awfully like my intelligent, gentle, beautiful DD. Please don't judge. Please try to find out more. I know it's shocking to see, if you've never experienced it, but view it as what it is: someone externalising their extreme distress, and who doesn't want to hurt anyone, and is probably at the beginning of a lifetime of learning how to adjust to a world that's not very kind or sympathetic towards them.

namechangetheworld · 15/09/2025 18:28

the7Vabo · 15/09/2025 17:47

It isn’t natural.

Seeing a meltdown between a child & his parents has absolutely nothing to do with another child.

I see this all the time and it wouldn’t even occur to me to think how could this possibly impact me & my child.

If you witnessed someone who shares a classroom with your child kicking and punching and screaming at the school gates it wouldn't cross your mind that your own child could potentially be hurt in school? Pull the other one.

I would have concerns too, but would keep them to myself unless something happened to my child OP. There's a whole lot of speculation on this thread about this child, and nobody knows the real situation. Perhaps he has SEN and is only violent towards his parents. Perhaps he's just a horrible little bully.

GeorgeClooneyshouldhavemarriedme · 15/09/2025 18:27

Agree.

What on earth do you want from the teacher? Because as a teacher I certainly wouldn't be discussing another child's behaviour with you.
Do you want reassurance that distressed child will always be kept away from your DD? I wouldn't give you that either.

This child's circumstances have nothing to do with you, and you just have to trust the school to do their job looking after ALL of their pupils.

Hankunamatata · 15/09/2025 18:27

Sen parent here and you would have seen that regularly when I tried to drop off.

It was hell.

The fact parents stood aorund watching is bloody awful.

My kids never hit other children. They just couldnt transition and had little speech at that age

You got a snap shot

Petitchat · 15/09/2025 18:26

Just2 · 15/09/2025 16:18

Withdraw her then? 🤷‍♀️

You won’t though

So there is literally no point to this thread whatsoever

What? She can't even come for a bit of support or chat?

Whi gave you the sheriff's badge?

WhiteNoiseBlur · 15/09/2025 18:25

SENMum1727 · 15/09/2025 17:11

This is an awful post. My child is like this because he has SEN and can become overwhelmed by the environment. I hope he isn’t going to fullfil this persons expectation that he will become a knife wielding hooligan and he is instead supported so he can reach his potential.

Hopefully this kid won’t turn out like that. But a proportion of every year group do - that is a fact. OP’s daughter will unfortunately witness all kinds of behaviour throughout her school career. This might scare her, she might get hurt, be it intentionally or unintentionally. She might hear terrible language and disrespectful behaviour. That behaviour may or may not be linked to that child’s neurodivergence. Sad for them - super sad for other kids to have to deal with. My point was, this is her reality for the rest of her school career. No point complaining.