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To not want my daughter near a little boy at school after what I saw this morning?

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Editormedi · 15/09/2025 16:14

Am I being silly or is this worrying?

So at drop off this morning I saw something that really unsettled me. There’s a little boy in dd’s class (year 1) and when his parents brought him in he completely lost it. I mean properly lashing out. He was kicking his dad hard in the shins, screaming at his mum to “shut up” over and over, trying to smack her face. It went on for a good few minutes and everyone in the playground was watching. The parents looked mortified but also a bit helpless, like this wasn’t the first time.

I know kids can have meltdowns and off days, I’m not judging that. But I have to admit it really worried me. If he’s like that with his parents what’s he like with the other dc? Dd is quite quiet and gentle and I don’t want her to end up on the receiving end.

Part of me thinks I should just leave it, it’s none of my business. Another part of me feels like I should say something to the teacher, or at least try to make sure dd keeps her distance. But I don’t want to be unfair on a 6 year old either, maybe he has SEN or something going on at home.

I just can’t shake the image of him hitting out and the thought of him doing the same to my dd makes me feel protective.

AIBU? Should I just ignore and stop overthinking, or would you mention it to the teacher? Handhold please. Flame me if I’m being PFB/OTT, but I came away really unsettled.

OP posts:
GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 22:40

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 15/09/2025 22:32

You think those parents aren't trying those things?

I don't believe they all are, no. I've witnessed some really inadequate parenting of children with SEN.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 15/09/2025 22:33

Jibberishforever · 15/09/2025 22:23

Never see girls behaving like that.
The consequences for the girl and her family would be dire, especially so socially.
But every excuse for a boy.
Hitting and kicking and what not, all excused.
6 isn't 2 or 3.

Edited

If he is doing that at six then obviously there are some issues like SEN at play as that isn't normal.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 15/09/2025 22:32

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 22:21

I think many parents of children with SEN would benefit from attending parenting groups. Learning strategies on how to manage their child's behaviour would be massively beneficial for everyone involved. You only need to look on here to see how many parents are struggling and desperately need more support.

You think those parents aren't trying those things?

Jibberishforever · 15/09/2025 22:25

Allswellthatendswelll · 15/09/2025 21:55

Ok I'm really confused have I missed a bit where this child is kicking off in class?! All I can see is the OP said she'd witnessed a one off incident with the child’s parents.

As lots of people have said children can behave very differently in the classroom to with their parents.

If OP was to go and speak to the teacher she can't share info about another child's needs or support.

I have taught kids with SEN who have lashed out and 99% of the time the TA and/or teacher have got them out of the classroom so quickly no child was hurt or even had more than 5 minutes of learning curtailed. It has sometimes led to the adults being hit unfortunately. But a good school should have very quick procedures for this. It might not even be relevant anyway as we only have this one off snapshot!

Violence must have been upsetting for those other children?
And your poor TAs who had to get them out??
It's extremely stressful for all to have a child like that in the classroom.

Jibberishforever · 15/09/2025 22:23

FuzzyWolf · 15/09/2025 16:22

That child was probably massively overwhelmed and anxious about going into school and took it out on his safe people. The likelihood is that he holds it together at school and that mask is exhausting.

Stop being so judgemental.

Never see girls behaving like that.
The consequences for the girl and her family would be dire, especially so socially.
But every excuse for a boy.
Hitting and kicking and what not, all excused.
6 isn't 2 or 3.

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 22:21

Kirbert2 · 15/09/2025 22:11

Why do you think parenting is an issue in some cases with SEN children?

I think many parents of children with SEN would benefit from attending parenting groups. Learning strategies on how to manage their child's behaviour would be massively beneficial for everyone involved. You only need to look on here to see how many parents are struggling and desperately need more support.

LayerCakeOfStrangers · 15/09/2025 22:12

Heaven forfend little princess has to be in the company of an SEN child or a child who sometimes gets upset

Kirbert2 · 15/09/2025 22:11

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 22:05

Should they also count themselves "lucky" that someone else's child is causing major problems for their own child?
I do consider myself lucky to not have a child with SEN. Although I do think parenting is an issue in some of these cases.

Why do you think parenting is an issue in some cases with SEN children?

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 22:05

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 15/09/2025 21:57

I think the SEN parent deserves more empathy whilst the rest count themselves lucky they don't have an SEN child.

Should they also count themselves "lucky" that someone else's child is causing major problems for their own child?
I do consider myself lucky to not have a child with SEN. Although I do think parenting is an issue in some of these cases.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 15/09/2025 21:57

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 19:59

Well the difference here is that it's the child with SEN that is having a negative effect on others. That's the difference isn't it. If your child's behaviour is negativity effecting others, then yes I think you should absolutely show some empathy to those effected.

I think the SEN parent deserves more empathy whilst the rest count themselves lucky they don't have an SEN child.

Allswellthatendswelll · 15/09/2025 21:55

Theroadt · 15/09/2025 18:36

It kind of is her business though if it is happening through the school day not just with parents. I think that was what OP meant - to talk to the teacher to get an idea what’s going on and some comfort as to what support isvin place - both for the little boy and also for his classmates who may (possibly) be having their classes disrupted. If she doesn’tvask, she won’t know. From that point of view it is very much her business imho

Ok I'm really confused have I missed a bit where this child is kicking off in class?! All I can see is the OP said she'd witnessed a one off incident with the child’s parents.

As lots of people have said children can behave very differently in the classroom to with their parents.

If OP was to go and speak to the teacher she can't share info about another child's needs or support.

I have taught kids with SEN who have lashed out and 99% of the time the TA and/or teacher have got them out of the classroom so quickly no child was hurt or even had more than 5 minutes of learning curtailed. It has sometimes led to the adults being hit unfortunately. But a good school should have very quick procedures for this. It might not even be relevant anyway as we only have this one off snapshot!

Glowingup · 15/09/2025 20:20

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 20:01

You're not an intelligent woman are you?
You've completely missed the point of this thread, and gone rogue.
I won't be engaging with you as your level of understanding is beneath me.

Surprised you didn’t write “your not an intelligent women” tbh

Kirbert2 · 15/09/2025 20:15

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 20:10

And that's why my advice to the OP was to monitor the situation and basically play it by ear.

I do agree with that.

It was just the assumption that one incident outside of school - violent thug who needs to be kept away from OP's child.

Of course, he could be incredibly violent to everyone and anyone but he could also be more violent to his parents because they are his safe space and/or he finds the morning transition to be difficult, especially when it's a new term after 6 weeks.

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 20:10

Kirbert2 · 15/09/2025 20:07

To their child? Absolutely.

Due to one snap shot outside of school which had nothing to do with their child? Not really.

And that's why my advice to the OP was to monitor the situation and basically play it by ear.

Delphiniumandlupins · 15/09/2025 20:10

If you don't want to be seen as a busybody or judgemental just don't be a judgemental busybody. The parents of this little boy will be feeling much more unsettled than you. Make sure your DD knows she can talk to you about anything that bothers her at school but trust that her teacher knows more about the family than you have learned from a 'snapshot' one morning.

Kirbert2 · 15/09/2025 20:07

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 20:04

But surely you can't blame a parent for not wanting their child to be around another child who is violent?

To their child? Absolutely.

Due to one snap shot outside of school which had nothing to do with their child? Not really.

crochetandcatz · 15/09/2025 20:06

also nobody is thinking how unreasonable it is towards the teacher, if the children have never had an issue with eachother why give her the extra workload of keeping them apart over an incident that has nothing to with ops daughter.

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 20:04

Kirbert2 · 15/09/2025 20:02

So it doesn't work both ways then? That's what I thought.

Isolating SEN children and their parents can and does have negative effects too.

But surely you can't blame a parent for not wanting their child to be around another child who is violent?

hyggetyggedotorg · 15/09/2025 20:03

Did he also empty his lunchbox item by item & throw it at people? No? My DS1 (now 27) was like this. He is autistic & unable to express how he was feeling in a more rational & “normal” way. I can assure you he never once hit or was mean to another child. It was mainly reserved for me, but occasionally a teacher - but only ever his favourite teacher. That’s generally how it works.

For reference, I have two younger DC who are largely NT & were model pupils at school - just for anyone who’d like to say it’s down to parenting.

Not sure why you would think you need a handhold. Being scared of a 5 year old who carries no threat to your daughter or yourself is laughable. Try walking a day in the parents’ shoes.

Kirbert2 · 15/09/2025 20:02

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 19:59

Well the difference here is that it's the child with SEN that is having a negative effect on others. That's the difference isn't it. If your child's behaviour is negativity effecting others, then yes I think you should absolutely show some empathy to those effected.

So it doesn't work both ways then? That's what I thought.

Isolating SEN children and their parents can and does have negative effects too.

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 20:01

Glowingup · 15/09/2025 19:52

Depends where you work doesn’t it. Not everyone works in a nice cosy little office. People who work in bars, pubs, hospitals, on public transport, in prisons and as part of emergency services absolutely can’t demand to never see violence can they?

You're not an intelligent woman are you?
You've completely missed the point of this thread, and gone rogue.
I won't be engaging with you as your level of understanding is beneath me.

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 19:59

Kirbert2 · 15/09/2025 19:53

Children are still learning, all children. Adults aren't.

Again though, why are parents of children with SEN expected to understand but not to have the same in return?

Well the difference here is that it's the child with SEN that is having a negative effect on others. That's the difference isn't it. If your child's behaviour is negativity effecting others, then yes I think you should absolutely show some empathy to those effected.

Kirbert2 · 15/09/2025 19:53

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 19:38

Because we often expect children to put up with stuff that as adults we never would. Why should they? Children should expect to be safe and free from violence the same as adults. That's why I'm comparing situations.

Regarding some people telling OP to keep her child away - OP has come here for advice. She's getting it. We may not all agree with some of the advice and that's ok. We don't all have to agree. Some parents would choose to keep their child away from this boy as much as possible. That's perfectly fine. That's their right as a parent.

And that's my point about some parents of children with SN not understanding or respecting other parents wishes. If you have a child with SN you have to do what's best for them, of course. But surely you must understand that other parents will want to do what they believe is best for their child as well?

Children are still learning, all children. Adults aren't.

Again though, why are parents of children with SEN expected to understand but not to have the same in return?

Glowingup · 15/09/2025 19:52

Depends where you work doesn’t it. Not everyone works in a nice cosy little office. People who work in bars, pubs, hospitals, on public transport, in prisons and as part of emergency services absolutely can’t demand to never see violence can they?

GypsyQueeen · 15/09/2025 19:50

Glowingup · 15/09/2025 19:42

What nonsense. What adult demands to be shielded from all violence? So if you see a fight in a pub, do you sue someone for the trauma you’ve suffered seeing it?
Kids fight all the time in school and nursery. Always have done. To make out it causes trauma for other kids to witness it is totally nuts.
What neither adults nor kids are expected to put up with is being assaulted but there is absolutely nothing to suggest that this boy will attack anyone in his class. If you saw my toddler hit me in the face would you say it’s too dangerous for her to be in nursery and that the kids in her nursery might get PTSD from seeing her hit me? Because I’d laugh if you did.

My reference to adults expecting to not witness violence was in relation to the work environment. Adults should absolutely be shielded from violence in the workplace.

If I saw your toddler hitting you in the face, I would feel incredibly sorry for you and wonder where you'd gone wrong.

People on this thread who are talking about tantrums are way off. A toddler having a tantrum is one thing, a 6 Yr old boy physically attacking his parents is quite another.

Anyway regardless of what anyone else thinks OP is concerned about her child. And that is what she has come here to post about.