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Husband touched a kid to reprimand them on school trip

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ToddlerIs2 · 15/09/2025 11:25

Husband went on school ltrip with yr 6 dc as our DC"s 121 so only responsible for him. Yr 4 girl in front was being annoying all journey. Husband asked her to stop several times. He dozed off and she banged the seats again (so banding onto her knee) and he lent over and tapped her on the head and told her to stop. Off the coach the teacher spoke to him and he said sorry, didn't think etc. now head wants to see him. What's the likely consequences? We have a lot going on and I'm not holding it all together very well so at home so don't know how irrational I am. He's never smacked out kids so I know it won't have been a smack to the head etc and it was only when she got off she told the teacher. I'm absolutely fuming because how did he forget to never touch someone else's child? And obviously there's an angry parent there that there's a grown man who's touched their daughter so school will probably have to make an example of him. Any ideas what's likely to happen?

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Beachtastic · 15/09/2025 12:45

GlastoNinja · 15/09/2025 11:46

For real? Who’d work with kids nowadays? A child is behaving like a twat and ignoring verbal requests of an adult sitting behind them so he taps their head to get their attention and tell them to behave, then it’s him who gets in bother.

What a world we live in.

This, really. God, I feel old...

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/09/2025 12:45

StillTryingtoBuy · 15/09/2025 12:42

I think people often use it as in “I don’t smack but I give a light tap if my child misbehaves” - not as a getting attention thing but as a physical back up to a verbal reprimand, basically, and that’s what I understand the OP’s DH has done here. Wouldn’t it be more usual to tap (for attention) a shoulder? No-one has ever tapped me on the head for attention!

I have never heard it used that way. If the girl was in the seat in front perhaps her head was the only bit he could reach. It was not ideal but the over reaction on here is immense.

BadgernTheGarden · 15/09/2025 12:44

What punishment is the misbehaving child getting?

ToddlerIs2 · 15/09/2025 12:44

SushiForMe · 15/09/2025 12:42

I’m assuming he is not physically reprimanding all the people who annoy him when he travels (people on trains, airplanes etc) so I guess the question you should ask him is why do it when the other person is a child / female / without her parents there?

I don't think he thought oh look, he's a girl, let's abuse her hahahah. And he didn't intend it as a reprimand, he tapped her to get her attention, not to punish her. I accept that doesn't change the fact he touched her but I think it's important for context that he wasn't looking for little girls to hit to get his rocks off.

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Endofyear · 15/09/2025 12:43

Obviously your DH shouldn't have done it. I presume the Head will speak to him and tell him he can't accompany your son on any trips in the future. Reporting to the police would be way over the top and a ridiculous waste of police time in my opinion. Hopefully your DH has learned a lesson not to physically chastise someone else's child!

eastsheener · 15/09/2025 12:43

GlastoNinja · 15/09/2025 11:46

For real? Who’d work with kids nowadays? A child is behaving like a twat and ignoring verbal requests of an adult sitting behind them so he taps their head to get their attention and tell them to behave, then it’s him who gets in bother.

What a world we live in.

But the husband is the adult and should know better. I wouldn’t be happy if someone touched my daughter.

Booneymil · 15/09/2025 12:43

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/09/2025 12:42

This. No male teacher in my lifetime (70 years) could have seriously believed it was OK to hug female pupils on the way out.

And yet its ok for the Op's husband to touch a female child on the head?

Why?

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/09/2025 12:43

smooththecat · 15/09/2025 12:42

Exactly, people will say they gave someone, usually a child, ‘a tap on the head’ to mean they’ve hit someone on the head. ‘I only tapped her’ when accused of smacking etc. Not referring to OP here.

I've never heard it used that way.

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/09/2025 12:42

Gagamama2 · 15/09/2025 12:39

Completely irrelevant to the op’s original post - of COURSE a male teacher shouldn’t be hugging female students on the way out of the door, that’s creepy af.

Tapping someone on the head to get their attention is in no way sexual and the idea that a child would need to be “safeguarded” against this is ridiculous

This. No male teacher in my lifetime (70 years) could have seriously believed it was OK to hug female pupils on the way out.

smooththecat · 15/09/2025 12:42

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/09/2025 12:38

Tapping as in tapping to get attention is literally what I understood this to mean so not minimising anything. Unless some people use the word to mean something more violent.

Exactly, people will say they gave someone, usually a child, ‘a tap on the head’ to mean they’ve hit someone on the head. ‘I only tapped her’ when accused of smacking etc. Not referring to OP here.

ToddlerIs2 · 15/09/2025 12:42

Pastaandoranges · 15/09/2025 12:32

I imagine it will depend on the girls version of events and how angry and/or crazy her parents are and if any witnesses can coorberate your husbands story.
It could all blow over in one cknversation if everyone is reasonable and thing happened as tour husband said they did. I imagine it could escalate if the girl has said it was more than a tap and also if her parents are angry and more so if they are unreasonable types.
I do think if a male parent hit my daughter in the head I would be furious and I am a reasonable person who doesnt usually make a big deal of things and also knows my kids arent perfect.
How long was this journey? Because if it was only a few hours then he can't really say he was trying to sleep. Its a school trip not first class long haul. But an overnight trip then possibly has an excuse.

No he wasn't trying to sleep, it's only 4 hours, he was up 90 minutes earlier than normal and tired so I think the journey just dozed him off. Not an excuse, just afact. Like I said, his actions aren't ok regardless of how awake he was.

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SushiForMe · 15/09/2025 12:42

I’m assuming he is not physically reprimanding all the people who annoy him when he travels (people on trains, airplanes etc) so I guess the question you should ask him is why do it when the other person is a child / female / without her parents there?

StillTryingtoBuy · 15/09/2025 12:42

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/09/2025 12:38

Tapping as in tapping to get attention is literally what I understood this to mean so not minimising anything. Unless some people use the word to mean something more violent.

I think people often use it as in “I don’t smack but I give a light tap if my child misbehaves” - not as a getting attention thing but as a physical back up to a verbal reprimand, basically, and that’s what I understand the OP’s DH has done here. Wouldn’t it be more usual to tap (for attention) a shoulder? No-one has ever tapped me on the head for attention!

RuttleTuttle · 15/09/2025 12:42

ToddlerIs2 · 15/09/2025 12:29

School won't tell us who the kids is, so he can't apologise. DS prob wont know either. I expect the grape vine could be squeezed for who but I don't think him approaching the parents is necessarily helpful. How else other than being genuinely contrite in the meeting can he help resolve this? I mean he could write a letter of apology to pass on I guess but would a parent actually care about the letter?

Do not put anything in writing. He should be contrite in the meeting, but should not offer anything that isn't being asked for.

GlastoNinja · 15/09/2025 12:41

smooththecat · 15/09/2025 12:35

Tapped is minimising language unless it’s literally tapping someone on the arm to get their attention. It sounds like hitting, smacking or slapping.

You think what the OP describes sounds like hitting, smacking or slapping? Does it chuff!

notacooldad · 15/09/2025 12:41

I work in a school. We just did safeguarding refreshing training. We were told we are not allowed to tap, hug a child ever.

I work in Children's services so and refreshed my safeguarding inJuly.
We got told we can tap hug etc but must use caution.

We have plenty of children who have been taken from their parents, foster placements have broken down or they have spent time in a police cell and they have been bought to our care. Most are already open to us and know the staff.
The first thing most do is fling themselves on to their case worker for a hug.
Others will sit on their bed and later on want to be held.
I had a child that begged to go home but he couldn't at 3 o'clock in the morning he was crying on the steps. The only way to sooth him wax to be behind him and gently hold and rock him while he cried.

I think I would rather leave my job than not offer appropriate co.fort to a child while they are in crisis.

Octavia64 · 15/09/2025 12:41

SS will not care.

parents might report to the police if the child has embellished/they are very angry but the police will not care either although they might record it in some way.

it was on a coach so there are plenty of witnesses.

calm down. It was a foolish thing to do but it’s going to blow over. Head needs to talk to him to get his side and to explain to him what a prat he was.

ex teacher.

Booneymil · 15/09/2025 12:40

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/09/2025 12:36

A security guard (in a school?) Shouldn't be socialising with students or be on pupils' Social media so the heart emoji thing shouldnt happen. Teachers shouldn't give lifts to pupils, it would invalidate their insurance apart from anything else.

These examples are quite different to the example in the OP.

I didnt say it was the same example as the op did i.

I said that you have to be so careful when working with teenagers/childrem, as I have seen my colleagues get fired for well -meaning actions.

I am constantly trying to protect myself. I don't go alone in an elevator with the students. I don't go alone in a room with the students. I never touch the students on the shoulder.
We have to message students. I make sure my language is professional all the time In the messages.

Its a lot of pressure.

buffyajp · 15/09/2025 12:40

Overthebow · 15/09/2025 11:37

But this is a school trip and he was there as 1-1 supervisor for DS. Your DH isn’t a child, he can keep himself awake and it’s not really appropriate for him to fall asleep.

Rubbish. Hrs child was safe next to him and was not able to go anywhere. Nothing wrong with him snoozing next to his OWN child who was fine. He was not responsible for anyone else. It would be different if he was a teacher.Some of these replies are absolutely ridiculous and thank fucking god
my kids are grown up and I don’t have to deal with precious parents overreacting.

Nogg · 15/09/2025 12:39

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Terrible advise do not write a letter that is making it into a big deal. Seriously what are people thinking . MN making a hurricane in a tea cup

Gagamama2 · 15/09/2025 12:39

Booneymil · 15/09/2025 12:33

I can tell you dont work in a school or do safeguarding training.

I do.

At our last safeguarding session , one male teacher said he thought it was okay to hug female students when they are leaving the school.

He was told that this was a huge no. Not to do it again. As it can scare the female students. And there is a power imbalance where they will feel in the moment that they cannot say no to his hugs

Completely irrelevant to the op’s original post - of COURSE a male teacher shouldn’t be hugging female students on the way out of the door, that’s creepy af.

Tapping someone on the head to get their attention is in no way sexual and the idea that a child would need to be “safeguarded” against this is ridiculous

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/09/2025 12:38

smooththecat · 15/09/2025 12:35

Tapped is minimising language unless it’s literally tapping someone on the arm to get their attention. It sounds like hitting, smacking or slapping.

Tapping as in tapping to get attention is literally what I understood this to mean so not minimising anything. Unless some people use the word to mean something more violent.

GlastoNinja · 15/09/2025 12:38

Booneymil · 15/09/2025 12:23

It is not ok to tap anyone elses child

It’s not socially acceptable to tap anyone’s child because people seem to think in extremes.

Abuse is fucking horrific and should never happen so now no one ever touches a child. Corporal punishment is absolutely wrong, so now you’re not allowed to tap a child on the head to get their attention.

The world has gone mad and the impact on society will be felt moving forwards.

Booneymil · 15/09/2025 12:38

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/09/2025 12:36

A security guard (in a school?) Shouldn't be socialising with students or be on pupils' Social media so the heart emoji thing shouldnt happen. Teachers shouldn't give lifts to pupils, it would invalidate their insurance apart from anything else.

These examples are quite different to the example in the OP.

The security guard was not on the students social media.

We have a school phone. The students have to text our security guard on the mobile phone if they will be late (boarding school)

NotABiscuitInSight · 15/09/2025 12:37

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