Husband touched a kid to reprimand them on school trip

I am sure there is cctv on the bus, can it be watched and then a decision come to?

I certainly wouldn’t object in those circumstances. My DDs have always been tricky (they’re adopted), so I would have been inclined to believe that they were being annoying.

It sounds like a storm in a teacup really, if it was just a tap on the head. (And the OP’s description of her DH’s character makes me inclined to believe his version of events.)

The government guidelines for all schools in England and Wales state:

”Schools should not have a ‘no touch’ policy. It is often necessary or desirable for a teacher to touch a child (e.g. dealing with accidents or teaching musical instruments).”

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/school-discipline-new-guidance-for-teachers

My Granddaughter has moderate hearing loss. She can't wear her hearing aid at the moment because she has a severely retracted ear drum. This woman is a helper in the school, she knows about the medical conditions. My Granddaughter turned her best ear towards her, to hear better. The helper then moved in front of her and pointed her finger in her face, while saying 'you always look at me when I'm speaking to you'. She was seen by another helper who intervened. She's known for being aggressive. She often also tells other children off for speaking at a volume my Granddaughter can hear. If you can't cope with what children bring, don't volunteer.

If my 9 year old came home and said a man had tapped her on the head I’d have asked her why. When she explained I’d have told her she shouldn’t have been bumping the seat around then. He’s hardly an abuser!

Yes, strikes me as a huge fuss over nothing.

Nope, I wouldn’t either and I think this entire thread is slightly insane

This is Mumsnet. You should absolutely expect some MNers to call the police over it. They’d probably do it if you breathed in their child's direction as you’ll have assaulted them with your breath.

She wasn’t banging the DH’s seat. She was banging her own seat, which his knees were touching.

And he perceived that she was then turning around frequently to see if that was annoying him.

I don’t honestly think anything will happen other than a reminder that it’s advisable not to be doing things like that as a parent helper.

You sound harsh IMO, like you treat your husband like a small naughty child.

@ToddlerIs2 unless there is something far more than this, this is crazy! if he literally tapped them on the head to get their attention then that's it! school
will probably ask him not to in futur and explain why if he assaulted them then you can expect visit from police. No idea why people go crazy over what your actual post says 🥴🥴

Am I the only one who wouldn’t care if an adult tapped my daughter on the head to remind her to stop being rude? …….just me then.

Sounds like our school

So she ignored him and he tapped her on presumably her bowed head to get her attention? Wtf has the world come to. That's not a hanging offence. Everyone needs to take it down a notch.
Sounds to me like your DH was right to stop the behaviour. Touching someone is not abuse, let's define it properly please. Abuse something that causes pain.

Me too.

Honestly, I don't know who all these people are who are crying 'touch' = abuse. So very sad.

I'd say they've probably either not held down a proper job for any length of time or possibly - excuse me - are on the spectrum (black/white).

Life is not all straight lines or this/that. Life is rich and a melangery of human reactions in situations where there is subtext and context.

@Needsomethingtoread Years ago, when I first started out in my teaching career (around 20 years ago), I remember vividly an incident in which a nursery-age child was nodding off in assembly. His head began to drop backwards so as I was sitting behind him I instinctively put my hands up to gently support his head and try to keep him from dozing off completely and ultimately from banging his head on the wooden floor. After the event I was told it may have been advisable not to do that.
I am still aghast to this day, especially now that I am a mum to three kids of my own.
I am so glad I am no longer a teacher, especially with things going the way they are now.

What he did wasn't smart but I wonder if the girl will be disaplined for being an annoying arse for the whole journey and not doing as she was asked too.
Probably not and then we wonder why kids are feral and so many parents are being abused by there own offspring.

Children in my school often throw themselves at us for a hug in front of parents and there is no issue. I'd hate to work in a school where you think you will get sacked for hugging a child.

Part of my old job used to include accessing child social care records as part of a safeguarding role so that I could work out if someone needed children’s input for their kids or had just transitioned to adults. Some of the referrals to social care that I read that were shut down after a phone call with no further action shocked me. Some were long lists of referrals closed every step of the way and I’d be working with an adult who should have had someone intervene years ago and now they’re living lives full of risk and bouncing from disaster to disaster and then I see people talking about referring to social services because someone tapped a kids head to get their attention and I’m just like… yeah ok I’m sure they’ll be right round to check on his kids

I can only say, the world has gone mad.

So the child is possibly a little shit and mum precious about their child

wonder if they often get told off by teachers ……

I would def still talk /associate with you