Husband touched a kid to reprimand them on school trip

No wonder social services and the police have gone down the pan. Why would anyone contact them for such a non event. This kind of trivia is the ruination of this country

I was tapped on the head at school once by a teacher, I had fits for 3 years after almost dying from encephalitis as a child and was under consultant care. My Mother stormed up that school and played merry hell.

Really he should have just got the Teacher to intervene.

Shitty kids generally have shitty parents - its why you get so many apologists for poor behaviour on many of these threads.

Especially if he’d fallen and landed on or fell against a kid.

It is a nightmare working in a school

Especially as we are given training on what is best practice, and then we are forced to do things that are bad practice because they are understaffed

She kept looking round between the gap in the chairs to see his reaction. She wasn’t just moving about in her seat. To me this means she was deliberately annoying him and seeing if he’d react.

Tapping an irritating child on the head (to presumably get their attention so you can tell them to give it a rest)? What an absolute non event! Your poor husband. What deranged world we live in where giving a kid a minor ticking off is seen as having committed an act of violence 🙄

On a moving coach?

FFS.

Why can’t he walk round to in front of her and crouch down to her level? That would be how to communicate with a child.

If a man reached forward from behind - even as an adult - and tapped me on the head I wouldn’t feel comfortable turning my back on them again for the whole journey and would need to move seats.

What utter nonsense. Stop winding the poster up. They obviously have some mental health and anxiety issues and you spouting rubbish is unhelpful.

When you say he 'tapped' her are we talking an actual tap, with his finger? Like an 'excuse me' tap or a really light slap to the head? These two things are very different and if the former, how can anyone be getting worked up about it? Has he shown you what he did?

Things like what?? A tap on the head? When my dh was at secondary school a kid was dangled by his ankles over a cliff on a school trip by the teacher.

I think you're catastrophising a bit op
He'll most likely not be permitted to accompany again hope the meeting goes well

I have often put my arm round a child who was upset or even had them on my knee if that's what they wanted, should I have pushed away a child who spontaneously wanted to hug me or who leaned on me while they were reading? These were Early Years children, it obviously wouldn't be the same with teenagers but older children in Primary need comforting if they're upset or hurt.

The whole thing with the security guards is something I have never had to deal with I imagine it's a nightmare. At my secondary school a builder working on a flat roof had to be told to keep his shirt on as he was distracting us girls. I did a painting of him in Art Class. It's a potential minefield but far away from working with 4 snd 5 year olds.

It doesn’t matter. He should use his voice to get her attention if he needed to. Or walk round to in front of her. Or alert a teacher.

I’m not convinced she was doing anything wrong by having the temerity to move about on her own seat - just not making herself responsible for a grown man’s comfort- who should have been awake and kept his knee off her seat!

My dd would actually be very upset if her affection was rejected by her favourite teacher/ TA. We've spoken to her about what constitutes inappropriate and unwanted touching by an adult but dd instigates it and it is just a quick squeeze of thanks/ goodbye or appreciation. I actually feel sad that her teacher could be reprimanded so heavily for having a nurturing relationship that has really helped my child settle. It sounds like I should probably be discouraging her from doing it though, I don't want her teacher getting in trouble!

I would imagine social services will be called to investigate how things are at home. Schools are mandatorily required to report any suggestions that there might be violence at home. This is a very clear suggestion of it, regardless of whether he is or not!

It normally goes to the police liaison officer, whose job is to sit on panels to discuss things like this.

Isn't it ridiculous that he can't just touch her head to get her full attention and tell her to stop her nonsense.
The world's gone mad!

He shouldn't have touched her. However why was he on the trip? If your child needed 1:1 the school should have provided this and if they haven't then this is their own fault really.

What I meant was: do you think he would have done the same « tap on head » to an adult male
e, ie someone who could easily turn around and punch him?

Ok. Perhaps it became a thing after mine left primary.

I don’t think he should be dozing off on a school trip even if he’s only there as 121 for your own child. It’s just not appropriate.

If the kid was in front of him, she was presumably only making contact with her own seat? The fact that his knee was in contact with her seat was on him - she didn’t have a responsibility to sit still because a grown man wanted to doze undisturbed. Perhaps he should have tried sitting up straight? Perhaps his knee was digging into her back!

Tapping her on the head was wildly inappropriate. Surely every parent knows you don’t make physical contact with other people’s kids on a school trip? Especially as he was only responsible for his own child - so nothing to do with him if she was sitting still or not. I cannot imagine a world where this would be ok. Little girls on a school trip should not have to fear a grown man reaching round and tapping them on the head.

Teachers can give students lifts if they are with another member of staff, it doesn't happen often but it can and the rules are just that it has to be 2 members of staff. Emoji reactions cam be on emails too, they are on outlook etc, just saying it's not always social media. Yes happens more with 6th form etc, and female teachers have more leeway, but you can heart a kids email, if it's funny or whatever or it's just them thanking you.

Different schools have different policies, most of the time it's just use judgement, avoid touching but teachers can read social situations, and if a kid is genuinely crying or something, and they hug them, if the student wants that, nothing will happen. Yes be open, but i think teachers can use situational judgement, some schools may have no touching as a rule, even if students are fine with it but some don't. On leavers day etc if a kid is close with a teacher they'll hug them, leave cards etc. You can be professional with judgement and still have friendly emails, nothing wrong with saying your proud of them or will miss them etc obviously some SLTs will set different tones etc, some heads hug students, they are sensible with situations. Well in schools I have had experience eith these are the policies, I know some have different ones which I personally think are OTT, but if within the school OP's children go to those rules work then, then those are their rules.