Why does no one in the West care?

Did you bother to research what KSA and UAE are doing in terms of aid efforts to Sudan before typing this?

Saudi Arabia has contributed over £3Bn of aid to relief efforts in Sudan ffs.

What do you want 'the West' to do, other than sanction the belligerents and send aid - which we already do? Military intervention?

I care. I don't know what the heck I'm supposed to do about any of it though so I tend to avoid the noise for the sake of my own mental health.

Plus - the phenomenally wealthy Arab countries of the Middle East (Saudi, The Emirates) - they're not short of a bob or two, and they love weaponry.

Why don't they step in - they're nearer to the conflict than us. I often roll my eyes when wars cause population displacement in the Middle East. Somehow, it's seen as the West's job to help and to absorb refugees from Syria etc.

Hey Saudi, Dubai and other rich countries - why don't you step up and do your bit for these refugees?

Not interested? Hmmm.

Well Said 👏👏

And I dont want to be crass because I fully acknowledge that their circumstances are horrendous, but where would be the support from the British public?

People won't support mass refugees to GB or spending millions more in aid at a time when the Budget is about to hit Brits in the pocket again against ever declining public services and an unsettled public.

Yes and I stated why I think that is.

I'm sure it goes without saying that of course everyone on this thread 'cares'. I care hugely about human suffering (esp civilians). I'm haunted by things I've read over the years which I won't type out hear so as not to pass on that trauma to others, but basically atrocities happening to poor tribal people across the globe.

But what to do about it? What honestly could Britain or The West have done to stop the vile things I heard logging companies were doing to terrorise Amazonian tribes (beyond cruel)? The UN is supposed to be the mechanism for intervening in humanitarian tragedies - but it moves at the pace of a snail because it has to be democratic and also China and Russia have a place on the Security Council and they MOST DEFINITELY DO NOT have the same attitude to human suffering as most of us do in Western Europe. And they are sometimes behind the people committing these atrocities - in a proxy way.

Humans can be horrible. Throughout history and prehistory we've slaughtered each other in terrible ways. I don't know what you do about it. As has been said, the political climate has changed over the last 20 years and any intervention in, say, Africa, is now viewed as imperialist white-saviourism (look at the view taken now of Live Aid! - they've really turned on that inititative).

The West is in decline and the 21st Century will belong to China, mainly. We're seeing the first effects of this right now and we don't like it. I'm not sure China feels any particular moral duty to check suffering across the globe!

What's the end game of any intervention?

To "save" them from one problem and return them to lives plagued with multiple other gender-based issues that we won't intervene on?

What are we really "saving" them from?

I think people in the west care. What’s happening is appalling. However- I’m struggling to pay my mortgage that’ has increased and my food bills and feed my children. I’m putting out my own fires over here and living day to day. I don’t disagree it’s awful but I also think we’re in a time ourselves where we are struggling and no longer have the ability to provide for the rest of the world .

“Noone”?

That’s not accurate. At least not in my bubble.

Also if “nobody” cared then it would not be covered by social media.

I think the issue for Sudan is:

It’s known for being a desperately poor country
It seems to be in perpetual war
Our government is not funding this conflict.

I think a combination of these leads to a general apathy.

But also people think nothing is to be done. It’s not like we have significant trade with Sudan.

We kicked Sadam Hussein out of Iraq and Isis moved in. When the Russians left Afghanistan the Taliban took over. You can't possibly imagine that life improved for those people.

What do we do though? Boots on the ground, install a new leader/ regime come back in 10-30 years when it all goes. To shit again at a cost of billions. It doesn’t work.

I'm in Ireland. I hear a lot of radio ads for donations the charities working in Sudan. It's not going completely under the radar.

I think caring and having the ability to improve the situation are 2 different things. There are many wrongs being done in our own country that no one seems to ‘care’ about despite our ability to do something. I’m talking about the treatment of elderly, disabled and mentally ill people. You only know how bad the situation here really is until you have a need of these services. It’s difficult to prioritise the wrongs being perpetrated by regimes we have no control over when you see wrongs much closer to home which aren’t being dealt with but which we should have control of.

Every time the West interferes we make matters worse for the people of that country. It's hard to stand by. But it's the only solution.

The reality is that this is Africa, and this has been happening all across Africa for centuries.

But more recently, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Ruanda. Most countries in Africa are tribal, and so there is always going to be tribal conflict. Is it for us to get involved? And if so then how?

Most governments are beyond corrupt but unfortunately a lot of countries in Africa have taken that corruption to the extreme, to the extent they’re pretty much public about it.

So other than giving funding to charities on the ground, giving funding to governments in many countries is literally throwing it away.

And ultimately, who are we to tell other countries how they should live? Would we appreciate the same?

It’s all very well for us to say that this and that shouldn’t happen because that’s not what we would do, but what if another country started dictating to us? Should we tolerate that? Because we can’t have it both ways.