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Angry my manager has taken away WFH perk?

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ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 01:09

Am I unreasonable to be angry that my manager has taken away my wfh perk whilst I’m on maternity?

I have put in a proposed flexible work plan.

I used to do Tuesday - Thursday on site and Friday morning at home.

I requested to do less hours so I can drop the kids off to school and pick them up and keep my wfh Friday morning hours.

He’s rejected it and basically cornered me into just doing Tuesday- Thursday on site but I don’t want to reduce my hours too much so I’ve had to add an hour in the morning which means rushing my kids to breakfast club and nursery.

I am annoyed because on my last maternity 6 years ago, I applied for another job in another department which guaranteed wfh and my manager promised me more flexibility and wfh when I able to to keep me in his team.

But I feel like he’s used this maternity as an excuse to take it away from me. It’s not in my contract, it was an agreement between me and him.

What would you do? I feel like emailing him to say I am disappointed in him. Not many of our team like him but I used to rate him quite highly on the surveys etc because he always let me be. But I am really disappointed. I should have gone to the other team.

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redskydelight · 15/09/2025 09:37

Bluebigclouds · 15/09/2025 09:30

I don't think you are unreasonable - if you have been WFH for years on a Friday what is the difference now? I would appeal their decision.

The difference is that OP wants to reduce her hours overall, but wants to cherry pick that she only reduces her office hours.

redskydelight · 15/09/2025 09:36

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 09:10

He’s told me I have to come in for the 2 hours on the Friday.

That's not what you said in your OP?

So what have you been offered?

A choice of
a) the hours you requested but they all have to be in office, including the Friday that was previously wfh
b) to drop the Friday and work slightly longer days Tue-Thurs in the office?

I think those options seem reasonable. And I'm not sure (do you live a very long way from your office) why working a very short day on Friday is so unpalatable to you? You'll still have plenty of the day at home.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/09/2025 09:35

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 15/09/2025 08:59

I think some people have misunderstood what has actually happened.

If I have understood correctly:

OP was working 3.5 days per week. Three days on site Tuesday to Thursday, and one half day WFH on Friday mornings.

OP has now requested to reduce her hours further so she can do school drop offs and pick ups on Tuesday to Thursday, and still keep her half day WFH on Friday mornings.

The arrangements the OP is requesting would mean that she wouldn't be working a full day on any day of the week. She would be arriving at work after dropping her children off at school, and leaving on time to pick them up again at the end of the day. It's not clear how many hours this would involve working on Tuesday to Thursday, but none of them would be full days.

To be honest I can see why this might not really work for the business, particularly a business where WFH is not the norm.

I would also be interested to know why the children's father is apparently not doing any of the school runs.

It does come across as though the OP wants to have her cake and eat it. She wants to reduce her hours, but only on the days that suit her. She wants to be the person who arrives later and leaves earlier than her colleagues because she does the school runs, but also the person who gets to WFH on Friday mornings when no one else does.

It's also entirely possible that the OP is not very productive on her WFH Friday mornings and her manager thinks that cutting these particular hours would have much less of an impact for the business than cutting hours on the other days when she is present on site.

Ultimately, many people have to use breakfast clubs because it's not possible to drop their children off at school for the start of the school day and still arrive at work on time. This is a normal part of life for most working families. The OP sounds like she already has a fair amount of flexibility and would be unlikely to find a better deal elsewhere.

This. It’s also possible that the employer suspects OP won’t have childcare on the day she works from home.

TappyGilmore · 15/09/2025 09:34

So you were doing 22 hours on site and 4 hours at home if I’m understanding correctly (I may not be, the way you have posted about your Friday hours is confusing), so 26 hours total.

You asked to work 22 hours total.

The boss has said “yes but we need all 22 hours to be on site”. This is not unreasonable. You always did work 22 hours on site.

The only other thing I would say, in relation to your proposed work pattern, is that the different finish times on each day could potentially be a problem depending on your role. Other people can’t be expected to remember, “oh it’s Tuesday so she’s finishing at 3.30 today” but rather it would always be “where the hell is she? She’s never here when I’m looking for her!”

redskydelight · 15/09/2025 09:31

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 09:25

No I mean at the company, not generally. Sorry if it came across that way. I am the sole person who does my job.

So who did it when you were on maternity leave?
This is the only aspect where maternity is relevant here. You were off for (presumably) some months during which time someone else has done your normal job. Your manager had to put that in place so has had the opportunity to see how the job works with someone else doing it, potentially with different hours and working arrangement. It seems that this new insight has led them to think that more hours on Tue-Thurs are needed, and Friday is less busy (for example).

Bluebigclouds · 15/09/2025 09:30

I don't think you are unreasonable - if you have been WFH for years on a Friday what is the difference now? I would appeal their decision.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/09/2025 09:28

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 09:23

Why is childcare not seen as a good reason to change the hours? Who do people expect to pick up and drop off children?? I don’t understand? I was being honest.
My hours have to change because I now have to factor in picking up and dropping off my baby which is in a different location to my eldest schools.
Otherwise I would have kept what I had.

Should I have not used that as a reason? As I had to give a reason based on the government website.

The point here is that your employer isn’t obliged to accommodate your preferred childcare. You put in a request for reduced hours and your manager has accommodated your request based on the operational needs of the business. If you’re needed in the office Tuesday to Thursday then it makes perfect sense to cut the WFH hours.

minuette1 · 15/09/2025 09:28

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 08:59

I am the only one who can do my job, they are desperate to have my back.

I know what I can or can’t do at home. It’s not it’s my way or the highway. I just don’t understand the rejection as it’s a reasonable request.

So there hasn't been anyone covering your job while you've been on maternity leave? Are you coming back to a year long backlog of work - if so surely they will not want you to reduce your hours at all?

slashlover · 15/09/2025 09:25

Oldglasses · 15/09/2025 07:21

I had a similar situation where a new manager came in and wanted to recind my hybrid status which I had been working for over three years without any issue.
i worked 2 days in the office and three from home which really suited me.
At the time I called a legal helpline which dh gets free w his work (it’s for the whole family). They said the company had to demonstrate what had changed in the business to warrant this, and even if it’s not in your contract it’s your established way of working so that also counts. But they did say ultimately you can be be constructively dismissed if you say unilateral ‘no’.
In the end we came to a compromise on the hours/hybrid situation but I am soon to leave and that’s def been part if the decision for me - but not the only factor

Did you ask to reduce your hours or did they just want to rescind it?

Nodecaffallowed · 15/09/2025 09:25

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Withdrawn at poster's request

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 09:25

UninterestedBeing12 · 15/09/2025 09:21

That's nonsense op.

You are not the only one who can do your job. You are not indispensable.

Everyone is replaceable.

No I mean at the company, not generally. Sorry if it came across that way. I am the sole person who does my job.

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Rosscameasdoody · 15/09/2025 09:23

Mumlaplomb · 15/09/2025 08:29

OP I would write to him, copy in HR, and say you wish to retain your one day per week work from home that you currently enjoy, explain the reasons. Ask for consideration as maternity leave shouldn’t be the time to take away established working patterns and arrangements. I wish people wouldn’t call it a perk.

It is a perk. No-one else has it. If OP is requesting reduced hours then the employer is entitled to structure them in a way that least affects the business. It’s nothing to do with maternity leave.

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 09:23

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/09/2025 09:11

But the perk would have still been there if it wasn’t for my maternity

Actually it was your request for fewer hours which triggered this rather than the maternity itself, but nice try at making it about a protected characteristic

Worse still you told him it was for childcare, which isn't an employer's responsibility and is often a huge red flag as to what they can expect from you in future

Incredible that you're moaning about this when you're the only one with such an arrangement, but good luck if you make it clear how "disappointed in him" you are

Why is childcare not seen as a good reason to change the hours? Who do people expect to pick up and drop off children?? I don’t understand? I was being honest.
My hours have to change because I now have to factor in picking up and dropping off my baby which is in a different location to my eldest schools.
Otherwise I would have kept what I had.

Should I have not used that as a reason? As I had to give a reason based on the government website.

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UninterestedBeing12 · 15/09/2025 09:21

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 08:59

I am the only one who can do my job, they are desperate to have my back.

I know what I can or can’t do at home. It’s not it’s my way or the highway. I just don’t understand the rejection as it’s a reasonable request.

That's nonsense op.

You are not the only one who can do your job. You are not indispensable.

Everyone is replaceable.

minuette1 · 15/09/2025 09:20

Mumlaplomb · 15/09/2025 08:29

OP I would write to him, copy in HR, and say you wish to retain your one day per week work from home that you currently enjoy, explain the reasons. Ask for consideration as maternity leave shouldn’t be the time to take away established working patterns and arrangements. I wish people wouldn’t call it a perk.

I wish people wouldn’t call it a perk.

But it is a perk as the OP correctly describes it, as none of her colleagues enjoy the same privilege. It might have suited the business all those years ago, but times change, and that has nothing to do with maternity leave; rather the OP's own request to change her working pattern.

Namechangerage · 15/09/2025 09:19

I’d contact Pregnant then Screwed for advice.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/09/2025 09:18

EdithBond · 15/09/2025 09:11

Suggest joining a union and seek advice.

If your manager persuaded you not to take a better job on the basis you could have flexible working in your current job, it seems a reasonable request to continue doing so

It wasn’t a ‘perk’. It was a long-standing change to your working arrangements as part of your contract. Plus, changing this custom and practice while you’re on mat leave seems risky. You have more rights while on mat leave.

If you’ll need to look for a more flexible job in any case, there’s nothing to lose in challenging it.

Know your worth 💐

They haven’t made any change to custom and practice while OP was on mat leave. She herself requested a reduction in hours. Her manager is entitled to structure this in whatever way has the least impact on the business.

nam3c4ang3 · 15/09/2025 09:16

Sounds like you need to leave to find somewhere that is happy to have to wfh contractually.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/09/2025 09:13

Whatafustercluck · 15/09/2025 08:05

I would be submitting a formal flexible working request. He'd have to have a very good reason to deny it, particularly because you can prove you've been successfully working that way already. Presumably there are no issues with your performance in the role and your arrangement hasn't significantly impacted the business?

He has got a very good reason to deny it. He’s not obliged to accommodate OP’s childcare needs, his remit is to consider her request for reduced hours within the context of the operational needs of the business. If OP is needed in the office Tuesday to Thursday, then it makes perfect business sense to accommodate her request in a way that has the least impact on the business, which is to cut the hours worked from home. OP has what she said she wanted. Nothing has changed except that she no longer works Fridays.

BeltaLodaLife · 15/09/2025 09:13

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 09:10

He’s told me I have to come in for the 2 hours on the Friday.

That’s not what your OP said.

Withdraw your flexible working request and tell him you will return to work following the same working pattern before maternity leave as wfh has become an accepted part of your working pattern and this change constitutes maternity discrimination as they’re only removing are changing your role following your maternity leave, which they wouldn’t have done had you not taken leave.

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 15/09/2025 09:13

Zen8 · 15/09/2025 04:06

I think you should contact pregnant then screwed. I'm not 100% sure but I read somewhere that if you have been doing something for a long time even if it's not stated in your contract it becomes a contract term.

OP herself describes it as a perk.
She knows she gets special treatment compared to all the others.

I hate it when people take a benefit that has been granted and try to enforce it as a right - it means that everyone else gets screwed because the message goes out "no variation to the shitty contract for anyone, ever"

Yes, WFH is nice, especially if otherwise you do all the travelling for only half a day in the office but the OP has been entirely honest about the situation.

pinkdelight · 15/09/2025 09:11

I don’t know why people are allowed to automatically assume that?

Because enough people take the piss for it to be a valid assumption. Plus people are 'allowed' to assume whatever they like, there's no thought police.

It does sound like their needs are fairly straightforward whereas you're wanting to shave x minutes off here and add y minutes to z and their solution is simpler, has you in work for the hours the business needs, and the wfh hours aren't needed. Just use the wraparound care and your parents, it's still a pretty nice set of hours that gives you more time at home and ability to do several school runs. To be regretting not taking a job six years ago is a bit of a stretch, given that you've enjoyed the perk for this long and it's you whose brought up changing the deal to be even more flexible than it already was.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/09/2025 09:11

But the perk would have still been there if it wasn’t for my maternity

Actually it was your request for fewer hours which triggered this rather than the maternity itself, but nice try at making it about a protected characteristic

Worse still you told him it was for childcare, which isn't an employer's responsibility and is often a huge red flag as to what they can expect from you in future

Incredible that you're moaning about this when you're the only one with such an arrangement, but good luck if you make it clear how "disappointed in him" you are

EdithBond · 15/09/2025 09:11

Suggest joining a union and seek advice.

If your manager persuaded you not to take a better job on the basis you could have flexible working in your current job, it seems a reasonable request to continue doing so

It wasn’t a ‘perk’. It was a long-standing change to your working arrangements as part of your contract. Plus, changing this custom and practice while you’re on mat leave seems risky. You have more rights while on mat leave.

If you’ll need to look for a more flexible job in any case, there’s nothing to lose in challenging it.

Know your worth 💐

1offnamechange · 15/09/2025 09:10

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 01:25

But the perk would have still been there if it wasn’t for my maternity. I feel like I’m being punished for having a baby.

one kid will be in breakfast club, the other in nursery

But it's not the maternity that's caused the change, its the request to work fewer hours?

If you'd come back after maternity happy to work the same hours you'd still be allowed to wfh on Friday.

If you'd requested a change of working hours for any other reason he'd probably have suggested the same thing (dropping the half wfh day).

Therefore I don't think you can "blame" maternity or suggest he's "punishing" you because of it - even more so when none of the rest of your team are allowed to wfh.

You're not being treated less favourably than anyone else in your team so you aren't being discriminated against.

Tbh it would be really unfair if they had to be on site 5 days a week and you could wfh one day despite only working 3 days.