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Angry my manager has taken away WFH perk?

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ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 01:09

Am I unreasonable to be angry that my manager has taken away my wfh perk whilst I’m on maternity?

I have put in a proposed flexible work plan.

I used to do Tuesday - Thursday on site and Friday morning at home.

I requested to do less hours so I can drop the kids off to school and pick them up and keep my wfh Friday morning hours.

He’s rejected it and basically cornered me into just doing Tuesday- Thursday on site but I don’t want to reduce my hours too much so I’ve had to add an hour in the morning which means rushing my kids to breakfast club and nursery.

I am annoyed because on my last maternity 6 years ago, I applied for another job in another department which guaranteed wfh and my manager promised me more flexibility and wfh when I able to to keep me in his team.

But I feel like he’s used this maternity as an excuse to take it away from me. It’s not in my contract, it was an agreement between me and him.

What would you do? I feel like emailing him to say I am disappointed in him. Not many of our team like him but I used to rate him quite highly on the surveys etc because he always let me be. But I am really disappointed. I should have gone to the other team.

OP posts:
pinkdelight · 15/09/2025 10:28

Swiftie1878 · 15/09/2025 10:21

Sure, this is a valid option…
if you want to be an arse to a company you’ve worked for for 15 years and has been supportive and flexible over that whole time, but is now putting its needs in the mix when considering another flexible working request.

Agree with this. Same as when OP said she's expected to get co out of the 'predicament' that the person covering her role got them into. Well, if that's your job, then that's what you do in your working hours. It's not doing them a favour.

SirBasil · 15/09/2025 10:28

if they made the offer during your last ML in writing, and it was open ended, point that out.

Look for new jobs, and/or look for different positions within your company.

Breakfast clubs aren't the end of the world. Hundreds and thousands of us have had to manage, and you will too. Having said that, your DH also needs to come up with some solutions too, it shouldn't all be on you - yes, he did the last 3 years. That is not an extra lovely add-on. It is being a father.

But. Your position sounds strong. Why not make a counter offer? poinit out all the facts of your last years work, that WFH was in place of a pay rise etc. And next time get it all in writing and added to your contract.

Worktillate · 15/09/2025 10:25

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 08:53

i used to do
7:45 - 3:30 Tuesday to Thursday
2 years ago, I asked for a pay rise, it got denied but he said he will increase my hours, I said okay but only if I can do it from home. He agreed. I was always allowed to work from home during the week if I had enough work. This “perk” was carried on from my predecessor who also had this perk and retired. so I did overall 26 hours (4 hours on Friday wfh)

I have asked to do 22 hours now:
8:30 - 3:30
8:30 - 2:30
8:30 - 4:30
9 - 11:30 (wfh)

The above got rejected saying we need more on site from me. However, the job itself is based on workload which is like a rollercoaster. Some times it’s busy, sometimes it’s not. I will be more than capable of doing the work as the team itself has reduced its headcount by 1 full time person.

i used to do 22 hours in a team of 5 people, it got upped tp 26 hours and I’ve asked to do 22 hours on the basis that they’ve also lost a head count. He didn’t reject the reduction in hours but the wfh and saying I need to come in on Friday. But why would I want to go in for 2 hours?!

The above allowed me to pick the kids up from school Tuesday and Thursday and drop them off.

However to keep 22 hours, and not go in for 2 hours on a Friday, I might have to request an addition 30 minutes a day Tuesday to Thursday.

Edited

So, have you been WFH for 6 years or two years? I'm confused

Swiftie1878 · 15/09/2025 10:21

Facecloth · 15/09/2025 10:16

Stop being accommodating.
Stop helping them out.
Start looking for another job.

Get your contract out and start working to it only.
Be a lot less obliging.
Keep note of every time you are being imposed upon.

Sure, this is a valid option…
if you want to be an arse to a company you’ve worked for for 15 years and has been supportive and flexible over that whole time, but is now putting its needs in the mix when considering another flexible working request.

Whatafustercluck · 15/09/2025 10:19

Rosscameasdoody · 15/09/2025 09:13

He has got a very good reason to deny it. He’s not obliged to accommodate OP’s childcare needs, his remit is to consider her request for reduced hours within the context of the operational needs of the business. If OP is needed in the office Tuesday to Thursday, then it makes perfect business sense to accommodate her request in a way that has the least impact on the business, which is to cut the hours worked from home. OP has what she said she wanted. Nothing has changed except that she no longer works Fridays.

Then the application will be rejected. My point is that there's a process for this, and at present it's not formalised.

Whatafustercluck · 15/09/2025 10:18

Labamba78 · 15/09/2025 08:19

But he’s agreeing to her request to reduce her hours though?! It’s just that this can clearly only be accommodated by dropping the Friday half day, rather than on Tuesday - Thursday, which is likely perfectly reasonable from a business point of view!
OP is the one asking to reduce her hours! If she wants to keep the Friday WFH she probably can if she returns to the same arrangement as before her mat leave.

The point remains. It's an unofficial arrangement currently, and needs to be formalised one way or the other. The op has no 'right to anything at present.

Facecloth · 15/09/2025 10:16

Stop being accommodating.
Stop helping them out.
Start looking for another job.

Get your contract out and start working to it only.
Be a lot less obliging.
Keep note of every time you are being imposed upon.

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 10:14

pinkdelight · 15/09/2025 10:08

Just checked back re. longstanding arrangement - the OP started off saying this 'perk' had been in place for 6 years, but in a later post she says:

i used to do
7:45 - 3:30 Tuesday to Thursday
2 years ago, I asked for a pay rise, it got denied but he said he will increase my hours, I said okay but only if I can do it from home.

So the Friday wfh isn't a 6 year-long arrangement, it's only been since 2 years ago, a chunk of which is mat leave. Not saying this invalidates her wish to keep it, but it's not quite the longstanding arrangement some have taken it to be and the deal made with the manager when OP considered the other job 6 years ago has since been modified with this wfh negotiation. So it's really not about a 6 year long set-up. Things have changed in that time off the back of OP's requests and are changing again now off the back of her requests. Wanting her in the office for already short days Tues-Thurs seems reasonable, and cutting the wfh hours (which OP already proposed halving) makes more sense for the business than whittling one of the office days down to a 2.30 finish.

Sorry, that was a typo.
i have been doing the job for 6 years ( i have been with the company for 15 years). I was able to work from home during the week if I had enough work to do so in my 3 days a work week.

I asked for a pay rise 4-5 years ago (can’t remember exactly when) and got denied and was allowed to have 4 extra hours on a Friday that meant I could wfh.

OP posts:
pinkdelight · 15/09/2025 10:08

Just checked back re. longstanding arrangement - the OP started off saying this 'perk' had been in place for 6 years, but in a later post she says:

i used to do
7:45 - 3:30 Tuesday to Thursday
2 years ago, I asked for a pay rise, it got denied but he said he will increase my hours, I said okay but only if I can do it from home.

So the Friday wfh isn't a 6 year-long arrangement, it's only been since 2 years ago, a chunk of which is mat leave. Not saying this invalidates her wish to keep it, but it's not quite the longstanding arrangement some have taken it to be and the deal made with the manager when OP considered the other job 6 years ago has since been modified with this wfh negotiation. So it's really not about a 6 year long set-up. Things have changed in that time off the back of OP's requests and are changing again now off the back of her requests. Wanting her in the office for already short days Tues-Thurs seems reasonable, and cutting the wfh hours (which OP already proposed halving) makes more sense for the business than whittling one of the office days down to a 2.30 finish.

5128gap · 15/09/2025 09:59

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 01:25

But the perk would have still been there if it wasn’t for my maternity. I feel like I’m being punished for having a baby.

one kid will be in breakfast club, the other in nursery

No, the perk would still be there if you hadn't requested the change to your working hours. You have asked to do fewer hours. Your employer has accommodated that request in a way that best meets business needs. They have retained what they see as your most valuable hours, and reduced the ones they can most easily manage without. It would be very difficult to show this was unreasonable in the legal sense of the word. Had you not requested a change and had returned to be told your WFH had stopped, you may have been on stronger grounds.
Your managers informal promise of flexibility is meaningless unless it was written into your contract. However, as they clearly valued you enough at one time to use it as a carrot to retain you, you could try negotiating with them, telling them you will be looking to move on because of this change.

redskydelight · 15/09/2025 09:58

I'm struggling to understand what sort of childcare you must have with one child at nursery at one child at school, based on the hours you originally wanted.

However, can I suggest your easiest childcare pattern would be to work a longer day on Thursday (or whatever day it was you were proposing finishing at 4.30) and beefing up the childcare on that day, so that you can split the remaining hours between the other two mid week days within school hours, to enable easy drops off and pick-ups and have Friday off altogether.
I do wonder if the reason for refusing your Friday wfh is because it's such a short time (variously described as 2 and 2.5 hours in this post).

slashlover · 15/09/2025 09:55

Bluebigclouds · 15/09/2025 09:50

How do you know that from the OP's posts without knowing where she works or what she does?

I think the OP should appeal - the business needs to explain to her the reasons and what the business concerns are. Maybe it is what you guess, maybe not. Maybe there is an arrangement they can agree on that works for everyone?

Because that is the reason stated by the manager.

1543click · 15/09/2025 09:53

You requested less hours. He's agreed but not in the way you wanted. Nobody else has your perk. You probably need to change jobs.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/09/2025 09:52

Bluebigclouds · 15/09/2025 09:30

I don't think you are unreasonable - if you have been WFH for years on a Friday what is the difference now? I would appeal their decision.

I think the difference is OP wanting to reduce her hours onsite without it affecting WFH. If the manager can show that this will cause operational problems then he’s within his rights to refuse the request and offer the alternative best suiting the business - which is that the 22 hours OP now wants to work is entirely office based. OP is now saying that will include 2 hours in the office on Friday mornings. That’s reasonable too because the overall hours she’s actually in the office are reduced.

Based on what OP has said, if the manager has brought in cover for OP’s maternity leave, that person wouldn’t have been working from home - only OP was allowed that as a personal arrangement. So the manager has likely had the opportunity to monitor whether a different working pattern has been advantageous. If that’s the case, it’s OP who has opened the door to the changes by requesting reduced hours. If she’s working less hours overall, then l think it’s unreasonable to expect that the reduction in hours be applied entirely to WFH, as it would reduce the time spent onsite when she’s needed.

TheClaaaw · 15/09/2025 09:52

Mumofoneandone · 15/09/2025 03:27

I would get legal advice, as this has been going on for 6 years, it could be covered by 'custom and practice'. This means 'Custom and practice" refers to unwritten workplace rules, benefits, or arrangements that, through consistent and long-standing application, become legally binding implied terms of an employment contract. These established norms, not found in written contracts, must be long-standing, consistent, known and accepted by both employer and employee, and understood as a legal obligation to be enforceable in an employment tribunal.' (Google search)

This is what I was going to say. If it’s an established norm for such a longer period of time, you don’t need to ask permission to do it each week so it is accepted practice by both parties, it can become an implied contractual term even if not written into the contract and they could not, in that case, unilaterally change it. Seeks advice from a specialist employment lawyer.

Narwhalsh · 15/09/2025 09:52

Make a formal flexible working request (don’t call it a perk, it’s flexible working) and in that you can describe how the role can be done the way you’ve been doing it prior to your mat leave

Bluebigclouds · 15/09/2025 09:50

slashlover · 15/09/2025 09:38

The difference is that OP wants to work less hours. The business can't accommodate making Tuesday to Thursday shorter days so want to remove the Friday.

How do you know that from the OP's posts without knowing where she works or what she does?

I think the OP should appeal - the business needs to explain to her the reasons and what the business concerns are. Maybe it is what you guess, maybe not. Maybe there is an arrangement they can agree on that works for everyone?

DramaLlamacchiato · 15/09/2025 09:49

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 01:09

Am I unreasonable to be angry that my manager has taken away my wfh perk whilst I’m on maternity?

I have put in a proposed flexible work plan.

I used to do Tuesday - Thursday on site and Friday morning at home.

I requested to do less hours so I can drop the kids off to school and pick them up and keep my wfh Friday morning hours.

He’s rejected it and basically cornered me into just doing Tuesday- Thursday on site but I don’t want to reduce my hours too much so I’ve had to add an hour in the morning which means rushing my kids to breakfast club and nursery.

I am annoyed because on my last maternity 6 years ago, I applied for another job in another department which guaranteed wfh and my manager promised me more flexibility and wfh when I able to to keep me in his team.

But I feel like he’s used this maternity as an excuse to take it away from me. It’s not in my contract, it was an agreement between me and him.

What would you do? I feel like emailing him to say I am disappointed in him. Not many of our team like him but I used to rate him quite highly on the surveys etc because he always let me be. But I am really disappointed. I should have gone to the other team.

It’s not the maternity that’s meaning the WFH is being taken away is it? It’s the fact you’ve made a flexible working request. He says he can’t accommodate what you asked for and has proposed an alternative. If you don’t want that, you can return to work on the same terms and conditions as when you left - which included the WFH on the Friday morning.

DressOrSkirt · 15/09/2025 09:45

Ladyzfactor · 15/09/2025 01:50

If I was another member of your team and saw that you got a perk that was routinely denied to the rest of us, and that it was never in your contract but just a deal between you and your boss I would be beyond upset and would go to HR.

I can understand being upset at not getting it but why would you be upset someone else did?

Katherine9 · 15/09/2025 09:44

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 01:25

But the perk would have still been there if it wasn’t for my maternity. I feel like I’m being punished for having a baby.

one kid will be in breakfast club, the other in nursery

But you don’t know it would still have there. There’s a huge move towards getting people back into the office.

99bottlesofkombucha · 15/09/2025 09:43

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Withdrawn at poster's request

This. Then if it’s a no and you’re confident they need you, I’d say thank you I am unable to work in the office on Fridays so I will need to request 2.5 hours less a week.

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 09:43

redskydelight · 15/09/2025 09:37

The difference is that OP wants to reduce her hours overall, but wants to cherry pick that she only reduces her office hours.

I am taking away 2 hours from my wfh hours and 2 hours from my on site hours.

They have reduced head count which means less work. I put that as a reason also to reduce my hours.

OP posts:
slashlover · 15/09/2025 09:38

Bluebigclouds · 15/09/2025 09:30

I don't think you are unreasonable - if you have been WFH for years on a Friday what is the difference now? I would appeal their decision.

The difference is that OP wants to work less hours. The business can't accommodate making Tuesday to Thursday shorter days so want to remove the Friday.

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 09:38

Someone’s covered me who’s put them in some predicaments as it’s a person who was made to cover me, not someone who wanted to do it ( someone who does another job at the company but I had to train to keep them going until I came back) They expect me to get them out of these predicaments when I come back.

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 15/09/2025 09:37

ZaHaK · 15/09/2025 09:10

He’s told me I have to come in for the 2 hours on the Friday.

You didn’t say that in your OP.