Black people don’t really matter but the loss of Charlie Kirk is a tragedy.

Yes, I agree a feeling a powerlessness can push people towards racism, which is as you say, exactly what we're experiencing with the rise of Reform.
However its important to remember who these racists are powerlessness in relation to. For this to be demonstrative that racism can flow in the opposite direction, from the powerless to the powerful, they would need to be powerless in relation to POC, which they're not.
They're powerlessness is relation to other white people more powerful than them. And in their frustration they're punching down on the people they still have power over, POC.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1505741850455031

@FOJN
I am not justifying his murder. If you had read my previous posts on this thread you would have known that. However, objecting to glorifying someone who was racist among other things does not equal justifying his murder.
The things you mentioned are not hearsay or misinterpretation of his words. There are videos online of him saying these things during public appearances. His words were quoted by news outlets long before his murder so they are not AI fakes created by “bad lefties” to taint his name.

@juldan see FOJNs post above.

Also:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/stephen-king-charlie-kirk-comment/6391657/

Stephen King had to apologise, and it's a good example of the often deliberate misinterpretation of who Kirk was.

The left have reacted disgustingly and disgracefully and seem intent on doubling down and continuing to double down, including this thread where the OP, bizarrely, takes personal offense that a well known public speaker might be mourned by his followers after being publicly assassinated.

As an aside, 7.8 billion is about the whole world population.

No, you are being disingenuous. Affirmative action in recruitment means that the standards may be lowered to meet diversity quotas for minorities, such as Black individuals, transgender people, women, etc. This can result in hiring someone who may not have been fully qualified for the job. I used to work on planes, and I sometimes felt this way when I saw women in those roles. It’s not because I dislike women; I believe we are all made in the image of God, but because of similar reasoning.

@SpaceRaccoon
You have 7.8 billion black people commenting on your posts??????

If not, the chances are that there are far more black people who share OP’s views on CK than yours.

The OP said she'd never heard of him until a couple of days ago and she "read" what he had said about black people. Although I believe he has published books he is most well known for public speaking and debating so if her information had come from something she read it seems likely these are things written about him rather than by him.

I was aware of him but have not studied him in great detail, however, it's pretty clear that he is being badly misrepresented by things he said being taken out of context. What I do know is that there are quite a number of black conservative content creators who knew him personally and have paid very touching tributes to him. He recruited Candace Owens to work with him at Turning Point when she was relatively unknown. Her tribute to him as well as all of his videos are available on YouTube.
Other black content creators who have paid tribute include Officer Tatum, The Hodge Twins, Gothix, Amala Ekpunobi and Amir Odom (who happens to be both black and a married gay man) who posted a video debunking the most common misconceptions, I'll link below. Am I supposed to think these black people don't know a racist when they meet one?

I am not politically aligned with Charlie Kirk but I do not like seeing someone's murder justified by lies.

That's quite some reach there; it was nothing of the sort.
It was a conversation about DEI and CK was merely highlighting that if the NBA suddenly had to hire more white people, the standard of play would likely go down because black people ARE better at basketball. How is that being in any way negative /racist toward black people?
He certainly wasn't saying 'stay in your lane'. Although I could think of worse 'lanes' to have to stay in - NBA is VERY well paid!

Yet my X feed is full of black commentators who supported him, so the OP speaks for herself only.

I disagree.

Calling somebody a "white bitch" is racism full stop. You don't need power to commit a racist act. Many of the most grievous acts (mass shootings etc) are committed as a reaction to feeling powerless. This is also how racial resentment is fuelled.

Look at Germany prior to the rise of the Nazis. Look at all the people flocking to support Reform due to feeling that nobody else is listening to their concerns. Look at all the struggling white men complaining that the foreigners took the jobs. A lack of power is a greater predictor of bigotry IMO. To need a scapegoat you must first have an axe to grind.

It is clear cut racist, towards black people. Yes. Obviously. It doesn't matter whether white people are good at basketball or not. It is a stay in your lane comment to black people: you keep what you're good at- basketball. If that's the example of him not being racist, it is not a good one.

I didn't redefine racism. I explained it to a person who thought it simply meant hating a person of a different race. As you see from the definition you posted, there is an 'and' which is treating others unfairly and discriminating.
I merely pointed out that in order to fulfil this part of the definition, power is needed. A person can hate another as much as they like, but in the absence of power they will be unable to treat them unfairly or discriminate against them.
This isn't a new understanding that I've made up. It's the way 'isms' have been widely understood for decades.
And I haven't 'lost my shit' about anything, so I doubt you're amazed by me.

But to give an example...

White people are often framed as being associated with slavery. The archetypal image of a 'slaver' is a white overseer on a cotton plantation.

However, there are over 3x more slaves in the world today than were trafficked over the entire 300-400 years of the transatlantic slave trade. Last time I looked at the top ten countries involved in slavery not a single one was a western country and 9/10 were majority non-white (Russia was in 10th place).

So, it's truthful to say that white people have enslaved more POC than the reverse. But in aggregate white people aren't even close to being the worst offenders. To talk about this is considered racist and will have you shouted down.

You can't just redefine concepts that already have a widely accepted definition/meaning.

Oxford dictionary says:

the belief that some races are superior to others and the unfair, violent, or discriminatory treatment of people of different races

Nothing about power structures/privilege. Your definition sounds more like structural/institutional racism. It's amazing how many people lose their shit when TRAs attempt to redefine the definition of a woman yet happily do the same thing themselves with other concepts.

I don’t know about incentive, but the part time model did complain about Germany having too many immigrants, so that would be a good motive for lying.

Ah, that's was omitted from the article I read. It said it was reported that a Syrian man had attacked him. However, having read a more recent article the victim has expressed frustration that the suspect was released, stating that the man was already known to the police.

If I was a betting man I'd say the guy probably was guilty. What incentive would the good samaritan have to blame it on an innocent guy?

Agree. Equally tiresome is for people to keep framing his death as a 'blow for free speech'.
As you rightfully remind us, CK was murdered for reasons unknown. But whatever the reasons, they were unlawful and the state will punish the perpetrator.
Unless it emerges that his death was actually a state sanctioned assassination because the government has decided to silence its citizens in this way, his murder by an independent citizen is no more a threat to the right free speech than being killed for your wallet is a threat to your rights to have money.

@No, he wasn’t Hitler, but he was a vile man. It is understandable that a black person may feel uneasy about people glorifying such a racist individual.

Correction, a Syrian man was questioned but later released as there was no evidence it was him.

Just googled that story. The attacker was a Syrian national. Well, apparently he attacked the good samaritan and his friend then jumped in and stabbed the guy in the face. The guy was previously a part time model but now has facial disfigurement.

Also, there is no evidence whatsoever that his assassin killed him for his views. We don't know why he killed him, but I am so tired of the way it has been assumed that the 'woke left' were somehow responsible for his death.

Personally I found Charlie Kirk's views despicable and divisive and I had zero respect for him. He could have used his undoubted gifts for charming and influencing people in positive ways but instead he promoted intolerance.
His death was a tragedy for his family, of course, and a blow for freedom of speech because no-one should die for having views. But it was not more of a tragedy than, say, the deaths of many Black people at the hands of American police. Arguably, though, at least Charlie Kirk's family will see some justice, while the Black families rarely do.

Which is exactly what has always happened when there are political assassinations. All it does is create justification for someone else to think in their own mind that they can do the same. And it escalates. History tells us that. So all those seeking some justification for his death because of his views have to accept that there will be people now justifying killing someone on the opposing political spectrum because of their views. There's no 'i don't support killing someone because of their views, but he was a horrible person' you either stop after views or you are part of a really serious and escalating problem.

I'm sorry that happened to your daughter, but unless white boys in shorts were also called slutty white trash, and non white girls were 'allowed' to wear shorts without comment, I'd say she was the victim of sexism not racism. When assessing if we are the victim if an 'ism' our comparator has to be how are people who don't share that key characteristic with us are treated. So in that case it was one rule for girls of all races, another for boys of all races, so sexism.

Disappointed to read but not surprised by some of the responses on here.

Some of us are reading and listening op, and at times that is what we should be doing especially when it from a different experience to our own

It really not hard to understand that that incidents that are down to differences in ethnic background having a negative impact on victims is not the same as societal racism, some people just do not want to accept this