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Friend using my credit card.

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BePunnyDuck · 13/09/2025 22:50

So I owe my friend a significant sum of money- £1300 or there abouts.

I have had a really really tight month. I’m a single parent, DD has been sick the past 2 weeks and as I am self employed I have had zero income as I have been off looking after her.

Friend messaged me yesterday to ask if it was possible if I could send her £100. I only had £80 left in my account, so I told her I would send her the money the next day as my ex was due to send me money for DD, which he didn't until this evening. I had every intention of sending the money when I got his money.

I went shopping today- only for my card to decline. I checked my online banking and my friend has used my card details and paid her phone bill with my money, meaning I couldn’t get shopping. Luckily- my Dad bailed us out.

I asked her about it and her reply was “you said you were sending me money, I had your bank details (from when we booked a holiday together a few months ago) so I used them to pay my phone bill”

AIBU to think this is wrong? I wasn’t avoiding paying her the money, it’s the fact she’s used my card without my permission…

OP posts:
C152 · 14/09/2025 08:38

BePunnyDuck · 13/09/2025 23:06

Sorry I should have perhaps been more clear re terms of the loan.

Original amount was 2k. She lent me the money so I could start my own business- this was 6 months ago. Agreement was I would pay her back £100 per month. No written agreement of sorts. I have over paid her twice.

I have never let her down. I may of been a day or two late paying but always called and explained. I explained my ex hadn’t sent money and got no reply.

But OP, you can't be a 'a day or two late' when repaying money. She might have a direct debit or bill to pay that's due, or perhaps she needs to buy food for her own family.

It was wrong of her to use your card, and she was follish to lend you money she couldn't afford to lose, but I think you need better financial planning. Your company has been running for 6 months, yet you have zero safety net or clear plan of how to repay debts (it's not ideal to be using child maintenance). You need a paid job until your business gets off the ground. And you need a business plan.

TheQuirkyMaker · 14/09/2025 08:36

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DelphiniumBlue · 14/09/2025 08:36

Your ‘ friend’s’ behaviour is highly antagonistic. She clearly regrets making the loan, and it sounds like she couldn’t actually afford it, and she now resents you.
Her taking the money by using your card tells you this.
I think you should pay her back the entire sum as quickly as you can - could you get a credit card or formal loan? Borrow from your Dad? Sell possessions?
Obviously you’ll have to cancel the card, and sadly, accept that the friendship is over.
Sorry if I’ve missed this, but did she offer to lend the money in the first place, or was it you persuading her? It’s a lot of money to borrow from a friend, and you should never have accepted it.

Coconutter24 · 14/09/2025 08:35

If you’re having to wait each month for your ex to pay you money before you can pay your friend £100 back then you maybe need to re think your business!! Even after a couple of weeks off work you should still have £100 in a business account to pay back your loan.

PollieDarton · 14/09/2025 08:35

BePunnyDuck · 13/09/2025 23:06

Sorry I should have perhaps been more clear re terms of the loan.

Original amount was 2k. She lent me the money so I could start my own business- this was 6 months ago. Agreement was I would pay her back £100 per month. No written agreement of sorts. I have over paid her twice.

I have never let her down. I may of been a day or two late paying but always called and explained. I explained my ex hadn’t sent money and got no reply.

Is your business making no money? Lots wrong here. There should have been a more reliable contingency for repayment then relying on payments from your ex to clear this debt. She's obviously retained your card details to do exactly this sort of thing with, there's no other reason she would need to keep a record of your card details. Either way using those details without your knowledge is fraud and what you should be doing is reporting it and getting the card company to take the money back and cancelling the card. But being you owe her a lot of money it complicates things. There seems to be a lack of boundaries on her part and a lack of a clear plan for repayment on yours. What sort of business are you running that can't find £100 a month? And why can't she afford her phone bill? if she's got £2000 to loan you did she clear herself out by lending it to you?

Shinysunday · 14/09/2025 08:33

OP if this is genuine you urgently need financial help, perhaps from Step Change. A single parent who has apparently maxed out her credit card and overdraft and is self employed should not be borrowing from friends to set up a new business and should not be booking a holiday! Your friend was wrong but you can easily avoid it happening again by cancelling the card.

TheQuirkyMaker · 14/09/2025 08:33

TessoftheBurgervan · 13/09/2025 22:55

I’m pretty sure your friend has committed a crime. Really stupid of her to do that.

That aside, cancel the card and do your best to get your friend paid back as soon as possible

A civil case as OP owes money and has no contractual way of paying- word against word. Police wouldn't be interested and SCC wouldn't take it on as a civil case. If OP "won" the case anyway, what would she "win"? She would just have to pay the "winnings" to her friend, who she owed the money to to start with.

Superhansrantowindsor · 14/09/2025 08:32

I just can’t get past booking a holiday when you are so broke you have to borrow money off a friend and then can’t feed your family.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:32

whimsicallyprickly · 14/09/2025 08:19

Get a new card from your bank. This will have different card details and your old card (and associated historical payments which have been set up) will be void

Set up a standing order to repay your friend £100 a month with an end date

This. I would also be making sure not to divulge new card details under any circumstances. Am l the only one who thinks it’s quite disturbing that OP’s friend felt entitled to access her bank account to take the money herself ? I think l would be paying off the loan ASAP and rethinking a friendship with someone who thought this was an acceptable thing to do - especially since OP had messaged to explain the circumstances and that payment would be made the following day. It all sounds haphazard and a bit financially incontinent on both sides.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:25

Carodebalo · 14/09/2025 07:40

You are being very unreasonable. You also got the title of your post wrong. It should read: ‘I promised my friend to pay back a generous and substantial loan but I have on several occasions, including this week, been unreliable and a few days late. AIBU?’ Focus on paying her back, so she does not need to worry constantly if you’ll pay her back at all. She then won’t feel forced to ‘take’ it back herself; desperate times called for desperate action!

OP is £100 ahead of the loan repayments (£700 repaid in six months). I agree that she should be paying on time if there is a specific payment date agreed, but l don’t think friend has any reason to think OP won’t repay the loan.

Spinderella1 · 14/09/2025 08:25

If you report her she will probably demand that you pay back the outstanding amount in full, immediately, as there doesn't seem to be a written agreement. She shouldn't have loaned you the money really. I don't think one should loan money they wouldn't be happy to write off. She's been a good friend. I would cancel the card and get a new one, and make a serious plan to pay her back immediately. Perhaps your parent's can help you settle the loan? I dont think you can be preachy given that you owe her a lot of money.

whimsicallyprickly · 14/09/2025 08:19

BePunnyDuck · 13/09/2025 23:06

Sorry I should have perhaps been more clear re terms of the loan.

Original amount was 2k. She lent me the money so I could start my own business- this was 6 months ago. Agreement was I would pay her back £100 per month. No written agreement of sorts. I have over paid her twice.

I have never let her down. I may of been a day or two late paying but always called and explained. I explained my ex hadn’t sent money and got no reply.

Get a new card from your bank. This will have different card details and your old card (and associated historical payments which have been set up) will be void

Set up a standing order to repay your friend £100 a month with an end date

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:18

verycloakanddaggers · 14/09/2025 05:05

This is none of your business, but obviously a business loan is used to establish or support a business, a business generates income, income benefits the children.

This. I’ve seen similar attitudes on MN and l really don’t understand the mindset. OP’s child lives with her and her ex’s payments are part of the household income which supports the child. Do people really expect CM payments to be kept separate and every penny accounted for ?

Ilovemyshed · 14/09/2025 08:17

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Gallopingfanjo · 14/09/2025 08:17

Please tell me you didn’t buy ‘stock’ for one of these MLM companies

WickedElpheba · 14/09/2025 08:15

Are you late in paying her back?

I think it's really quite bad of her to just use your credit card details but it must also be frustrating if you owe her money.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:14

JoeTheDrummer · 14/09/2025 07:40

But you wouldn’t be able to pay a bill with just bank details. You’d need either a debit/credit card, so the 16 digit number, the expiry date, and the 3-digit security code.

Which, re-reading the OP, would seem to be what the friend had.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:12

GleisZwei · 14/09/2025 07:44

Completely untrue! Of course OP can do something about it!

Agree. I think people are confusing fraud compensation with unauthorised use. OP’s friend has used OP’s card without her permission - the fact that she had the details or how she obtained them is irrelevant.

Whaleandsnail6 · 14/09/2025 08:12

You are both wrong and the whole situation is a mess

You have let her down by paying late on occasions. Just because you have chosen to overpay sometimes doesn't mean she should be paid late next time.

You not paying her made her not be able to pay a bill. The fact you were paid late by your ex and haven't worked this week is not her problem

She is massively wrong for using your card. I would cancel that card and never let her be in the situation where she can do that again

You both sound like you are struggling financially and doing crappy things as a knock on because of that

LeeshaPaper · 14/09/2025 08:11

WaterfallSounds · 13/09/2025 23:46

@JJZ
Just waiting for the op to explain how her friend managed to bypass the card security systems - like the 2 factor authentication.

My mil just asked me to buy a present for my DC off my phone. She gave me her card to use (while sitting beside me). Transaction went through no problem, no authentication required on her side. And I've never used her card before. So it's not always necessary

londongirl12 · 14/09/2025 08:10

What a mess. Neither of you can afford what’s happening here. If you can’t pay her back £100 a month on time, how are you living on your business money? Sounds like she couldn’t afford to give you the money either!

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:08

Muffinmam · 14/09/2025 08:00

Same here. I couldn’t even use my card for online takeout. It kept saying my card was declined by my bank. After the fifth try and also trying another card I finally received a OTP.

The OP needs to increase her banking security and also get help from a food bank.

l’m a bit confused by this. I’m with Halifax and Natwest and neither of them use OTP when making online payments. All l need is my bank card details.

Dippythedino · 14/09/2025 08:06

https://www.better.org.uk/library/services/community-support/start-up-business

Your local library should have these business development advice hubs, join one and find out how to grow your business. You should split your time between a temp job and business growth.

What's your business? I'm guessing it's an MLM.....

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ComfortFoodCafe · 14/09/2025 08:04

Why didnt you just repay her back instead of booking a hoilday? Confused
She evidently couldnt afford to give you the 2 grand otherwise she wouldnt of been desperate to pay her phone bill. Why did you take a loan off someone whose struggling? Thats a really shitty thing to do.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:02

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/09/2025 07:44

I’m guessing the holiday is going to be tension

cc won’t do anything as you have her the 16 dig and exp date and 3 numbers on the back

I’m not saying what she did was right but what you did was wrong

you also said you overpaid her twice. How ? More than £100 a month ?

According to OP the loan was six months ago. £2000 and there’s £1300 left to pay, so OP is ahead by £100 if what she says is correct. And that’s where the problem lies with OP - l get the impression that because she’s overpaid when she can, she feels as though she can be a day or two late with no problem. But equally it sounds as though her friend is relying on OP’s repayments, so it sounds as though she couldn’t really afford to lend the money in the first place.

What friend has done is completely unacceptable and frankly l don’t understand her reasoning because if she took the money from OP’s bank account without telling her, she would have been paid twice had OP not realised before she made the payment.

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