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Friend using my credit card.

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BePunnyDuck · 13/09/2025 22:50

So I owe my friend a significant sum of money- £1300 or there abouts.

I have had a really really tight month. I’m a single parent, DD has been sick the past 2 weeks and as I am self employed I have had zero income as I have been off looking after her.

Friend messaged me yesterday to ask if it was possible if I could send her £100. I only had £80 left in my account, so I told her I would send her the money the next day as my ex was due to send me money for DD, which he didn't until this evening. I had every intention of sending the money when I got his money.

I went shopping today- only for my card to decline. I checked my online banking and my friend has used my card details and paid her phone bill with my money, meaning I couldn’t get shopping. Luckily- my Dad bailed us out.

I asked her about it and her reply was “you said you were sending me money, I had your bank details (from when we booked a holiday together a few months ago) so I used them to pay my phone bill”

AIBU to think this is wrong? I wasn’t avoiding paying her the money, it’s the fact she’s used my card without my permission…

OP posts:
lonelynewname · 14/09/2025 09:09

OP said bank details not card details so she can’t cancel her card.

OP the circumstances of you paying her back are COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. What she did is absolutely disgusting and a massive overstep to put it mildly.

id try and make other arrangements to pay this person back and consider her presence in your future.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 14/09/2025 09:09

It was a passive aggressive response, why is she lending that amount to yo, if she can't afford to pay her phone bill.
You're both in the wrong.
You must pay her back.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 09:07

HerewardtheSleepy · 14/09/2025 08:51

Tell the credit card company your card was used by someone else without your knowledge. Get the payment cancelled. OK you owe her, but she's gone beyond the line.

Lots of posters advising OP to report it as fraud. Before doing this she will need to decide if she wants to drop her friend in the shit, thereby ending the friendship, because even if she doesn’t name her friend, the bank will discover the origin of the payment. And OP still won’t get the money back.

She gave her friend the details of the card and allowed her to use it without informing the bank first. And once her friend had made the transaction for which she had OP’s permission, OP then failed to secure the card details from further use. So she’s almost certainly broken the bank’s terms and conditions for the use of the card.

And her friend made the payment online, so if OP reports the transaction as fraudulent the bank will investigate and the IP address from which the payment was made will lead them straight to her friend and OP will still be implicated for having divulged the card details in the first instance.

Ballywas · 14/09/2025 09:05

“I have never let her down.”

Yes. You have. Every time you paid late.

Is your business genuinely a good idea given you are so tight for money?

Summerhillsquare · 14/09/2025 09:04

TheDandyLion · 13/09/2025 22:55

Id report the transaction as fraud.

Yes, regardless of whether you owe her money and under what terms, she has committed fraud here.

Loans often end friendships alas.

SweetnsourNZ · 14/09/2025 09:04

gamerchick · 13/09/2025 23:31

I was wondering the same

They probably booked the holiday together on the friends device.

WhatdoesitmeanKeith · 14/09/2025 09:04

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:49

The point l was making was that OP wouldn’t be able to claim compensation because the bank would say she was negligent by divulging her card details. That the friend accessed her bank account without her permission is a different matter. It’s a criminal offence, regardless of how she came by the details.

Are you sure about the legal point that compensation can’t be claimed? People
share payment details all the time (e.g. with retailers); it is not against any rules as far as I’m aware.

SweetnsourNZ · 14/09/2025 09:03

AdoraBell · 13/09/2025 23:14

WTF? Tell your bank your card was lost the card and recognised the payment.

Wouldn't that be fraud to, and probably worse as you are lying to your bank.

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 14/09/2025 09:03

OP it sounds like you both have an insensible approach to money - booking a holiday with someone you have an active loan agreement with, for example. So it’s not very surprising you’ve both got yourselves in this messy situation.

I assume you can’t borrow money conventionally? If you can (without resorting to payday loans, etc) I’d repay her the full outstanding amount. Then you need to decide if you continue the friendship without ever borrowing or lending money again.

Cornishclio · 14/09/2025 09:01

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:51

OP borrowed the money to set up her own business. She says the holiday was booked months ago.

Yes thanks I have just read her second post. My bad for not reading all posts. I also missed it was a credit card and that OP has stuck to repayment arrangement.

I think however if OP needed to borrow from a friend to start up a business which has no leeway for if she is sick a holiday should not have been booked.

WhatdoesitmeanKeith · 14/09/2025 09:01

SunnyD4ys · 14/09/2025 06:31

Where is everyone getting that a credit card was used?

The OP says card, when I use my debit card online I hardly ever have to go through 2FA and that's with a major high street bank.

I'm more surprised that people pay their home bill monthly, I didnt know you could do that, off topic but I assume that would be more expensive than a monthly deal.

@SunnyD4ys its in the thread title written by OP

CaroleLandis · 14/09/2025 08:55

The fact that your first couple of paragraphs are you giving pathetic reasons why you are weaselling out of paying her back is disgraceful.

She should not have used your card but perhaps she was in desperate need of getting some of HER money back.

Your priority is relaying her the money she only lent you.

Never borrow money again.

TheQuirkyMaker · 14/09/2025 08:54

ApiratesaysYarrr · 14/09/2025 08:46

If her friend took her to "small claims court" she'd have a legal judgement against her business, which would potentially cause more issues in the future.

Both friend and OP end up with some sort of legal stuff on their records,, which wouldn't be ideal.

I thought the response I responded to was that OP was being wronged by her friend who had abused her credit card. The person who is owed the money would be wasting her time and money going to SCC- if a person can't pay, SCC can't force them to.

PollieDarton · 14/09/2025 08:53

LadySuzanne · 14/09/2025 08:40

Perhaps the friend paid her bill over the phone or online through the provider's website but would she not have also needed the three digit security code from the back of the card?

You have to approve payments via an app now.

HellsBellsAndCatsWhiskers · 14/09/2025 08:52

It's pretty shitty that you're on here making a thread about her when you're the one not paying her back her money that she kindly lent you in the first place. I'd be sick if I lent a friend over a grand and she started paying late etc. I presume your ex hasn't just started this pattern of paying late? So you knew that there was a chance that you would not be able to keep to your word re repayments to your friend?

If she had missed that phone bill payment then that's a missed payment marker on her credit file which a record of remains for 6 years and could impact any applications for mortgages etc in the future. Perhaps she knew the ramifications of that and so did the only thing she could to mitigate that blemish on her credit file.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:51

Cornishclio · 14/09/2025 07:49

Yes it’s wrong but you were wrong to go on holiday without paying her back the £1300. If you couldn’t afford it you shouldn’t have gone. Was that why you owe her £1300? For the holiday? Cancelling a card won’t have any affect as she didn’t use your card. I don’t understand how she paid her bill just using the details though. If she paid via online banking she would also need your login details. I would be closing the account and reopening a new one.

Why did she need your bank details to book a holiday unless she sent you money? Be very careful in future about what information you give her and make repaying her a priority.

OP borrowed the money to set up her own business. She says the holiday was booked months ago.

HerewardtheSleepy · 14/09/2025 08:51

Tell the credit card company your card was used by someone else without your knowledge. Get the payment cancelled. OK you owe her, but she's gone beyond the line.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:49

PollieDarton · 14/09/2025 08:38

I don't agree. It's relevant because she wouldn't even have been able to do it if she hadn't kept the details and by doing this she's proven that she had dodgy intentions for keeping those details and always planned to use them if she needed to.

The point l was making was that OP wouldn’t be able to claim compensation because the bank would say she was negligent by divulging her card details. That the friend accessed her bank account without her permission is a different matter. It’s a criminal offence, regardless of how she came by the details.

ShodAndShadySenators · 14/09/2025 08:48

If this was me, I'd try to get a loan from dad to pay friend back, then set up a DD for dad of a smaller amount each month, like £50, as £100 seems to be tough going for OP at the moment.

I'd also cancel my card with the bank and get a new one that friend doesn't have the details for. That's bang out of order, whether OP owed her or not.

Okrr · 14/09/2025 08:47

Gallopingfanjo · 14/09/2025 08:17

Please tell me you didn’t buy ‘stock’ for one of these MLM companies

Yes I was going to ask about this ‘business’

ApiratesaysYarrr · 14/09/2025 08:46

TheQuirkyMaker · 14/09/2025 08:33

A civil case as OP owes money and has no contractual way of paying- word against word. Police wouldn't be interested and SCC wouldn't take it on as a civil case. If OP "won" the case anyway, what would she "win"? She would just have to pay the "winnings" to her friend, who she owed the money to to start with.

If her friend took her to "small claims court" she'd have a legal judgement against her business, which would potentially cause more issues in the future.

Both friend and OP end up with some sort of legal stuff on their records,, which wouldn't be ideal.

WonderingWanda · 14/09/2025 08:45

She shouldn't have used your card even if you owed her money, that is fraud. However, it sounds very much like you are both living hand to mouth and overspending. She couldn't pay her phone bill. You booked a holiday together a few months ago despite your financial position being self employed in debt and no back up savings for times when you are unable to work.

It's great that your Dad was able to bail you out this time but you should take this as a wake up call to have a better plan.

You really need to have a savings buffer, which I know is hard when you are on a low income but it's more essential than a holiday on a credit card. Others have suggested taking on some additional work which I think is sensible. Even if it's doing ironing for people in the evenings when your dd is in bed so that you can still run your business in the day.

LadySuzanne · 14/09/2025 08:40

WaterfallSounds · 13/09/2025 23:46

@JJZ
Just waiting for the op to explain how her friend managed to bypass the card security systems - like the 2 factor authentication.

Perhaps the friend paid her bill over the phone or online through the provider's website but would she not have also needed the three digit security code from the back of the card?

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:40

Mackerelfillets · 14/09/2025 07:40

It is fraud but incidentally if you said you were sending it and she also stole it from your account she would have had it twice!

l mentioned the same thing upthread a bit. It seems the friend knew the payment was coming but still accessed OP’s account to pay a bill, so had OP’s card not been declined she wouldn’t have been aware of it and would have paid twice.

There’s fault on both sides here - OP clearly agreed to pay on a certain date each month and has admitted she’s been late a couple of times, but has also overpaid a couple of times, and by the figures in the OP, she’s currently ahead of schedule by £100. Unless her friend is relying on OP’s payments to pay her own commitments, she has nothing to complain about because OP is paid up to date. If she needs OP’s payments to make ends meet the she really couldn’t afford to lend the money at all.

PollieDarton · 14/09/2025 08:38

Rosscameasdoody · 14/09/2025 08:12

Agree. I think people are confusing fraud compensation with unauthorised use. OP’s friend has used OP’s card without her permission - the fact that she had the details or how she obtained them is irrelevant.

I don't agree. It's relevant because she wouldn't even have been able to do it if she hadn't kept the details and by doing this she's proven that she had dodgy intentions for keeping those details and always planned to use them if she needed to.

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