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Friend using my credit card.

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BePunnyDuck · 13/09/2025 22:50

So I owe my friend a significant sum of money- £1300 or there abouts.

I have had a really really tight month. I’m a single parent, DD has been sick the past 2 weeks and as I am self employed I have had zero income as I have been off looking after her.

Friend messaged me yesterday to ask if it was possible if I could send her £100. I only had £80 left in my account, so I told her I would send her the money the next day as my ex was due to send me money for DD, which he didn't until this evening. I had every intention of sending the money when I got his money.

I went shopping today- only for my card to decline. I checked my online banking and my friend has used my card details and paid her phone bill with my money, meaning I couldn’t get shopping. Luckily- my Dad bailed us out.

I asked her about it and her reply was “you said you were sending me money, I had your bank details (from when we booked a holiday together a few months ago) so I used them to pay my phone bill”

AIBU to think this is wrong? I wasn’t avoiding paying her the money, it’s the fact she’s used my card without my permission…

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Millytante · 14/09/2025 18:25

Moveoverdarlin · 13/09/2025 23:48

Yeah just bypass it because she doesn’t have a leg to stand on!! Both OP and the friend sound totally skint and desperate. The friend can’t pay her phone bill, the OP can’t pay for literally anything without the help of said friend or the ex. OP didn’t send the friend the money she agreed so the mate took it in to her own hands.

Whilst it’s not right, I’d keep your head down OP and pay her back ASAP.

The friend will always have the upper hand in this situation because the OP is in debt to the tune of £1,200. That is a hell of a lot of money to loan a friend in this current climate.

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This business startup was a rash move by the sound of it. In deep trouble almost immediately, and 6 months in, cannot makes ends meet nor service a debt. I hope it wasn’t based on selling essential oils for some MLM.

whitewineandsun · 14/09/2025 18:04

Superhansrantowindsor · 14/09/2025 08:32

I just can’t get past booking a holiday when you are so broke you have to borrow money off a friend and then can’t feed your family.

Same. You should have prioritised paying for food/your friend back in full rather than go on holiday. That seems common sense.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 14/09/2025 12:46

Namechangedagain999 · 14/09/2025 12:11

The scenario put forward by the OP was that their credit card was used to pay someone else’s phone bill. The card used was therefore not registered to that person and not the card that person usually used. That would trigger OTP I believe. There are many insecure sites out there that won’t check anything but reputable phone companies are generally as secure as you would expect.

Not necessarily, if friend phoned the company and paid by card, its the same as being in a store.
As long as she has the information. I pay Virginmedia.ie monthly on their automatic payment system, never received a security link. Same with oil company.

Namechangedagain999 · 14/09/2025 12:11

SunnyD4ys · 14/09/2025 11:57

That can't possibly be true

How is my bank going to make every retailer in the whole world ask for a code? I can literally buy from any business anywhere.

Amazon doesn't ask for 2FA for every transaction for example

The scenario put forward by the OP was that their credit card was used to pay someone else’s phone bill. The card used was therefore not registered to that person and not the card that person usually used. That would trigger OTP I believe. There are many insecure sites out there that won’t check anything but reputable phone companies are generally as secure as you would expect.

SerendipityJane · 14/09/2025 12:09

SunnyD4ys · 14/09/2025 11:57

That can't possibly be true

How is my bank going to make every retailer in the whole world ask for a code? I can literally buy from any business anywhere.

Amazon doesn't ask for 2FA for every transaction for example

Shrug.

I posted the link. You work it out.

Namechangedagain999 · 14/09/2025 12:06

SunnyD4ys · 14/09/2025 11:05

Where do I report my bank to from not doing that then?

Frankly you're talking nonsense, not every bank asks for an OTP for every online transaction

In fact this morning I've paid for something on line and all I had to input were my card details and name, not even my address

Maybe i should not be quite so pedantic as it’s impossible to be sure of every single scenario. But using someone else’s credit card should flag up on any banking system and additional security triggered. It’s a card obviously not registered to the person paying the bill. A very easy situation for the system to check for and trigger OTP.

SunnyD4ys · 14/09/2025 11:57

SerendipityJane · 14/09/2025 11:16

If you aren't getting 2FA then you aren't protected from fraud. The bank will claim any transaction must have been you (and you can't disprove it).

How you raise it with your bank is a matter for you and their customer service, I would have thought

That can't possibly be true

How is my bank going to make every retailer in the whole world ask for a code? I can literally buy from any business anywhere.

Amazon doesn't ask for 2FA for every transaction for example

SerendipityJane · 14/09/2025 11:16

SunnyD4ys · 14/09/2025 11:05

Where do I report my bank to from not doing that then?

Frankly you're talking nonsense, not every bank asks for an OTP for every online transaction

In fact this morning I've paid for something on line and all I had to input were my card details and name, not even my address

If you aren't getting 2FA then you aren't protected from fraud. The bank will claim any transaction must have been you (and you can't disprove it).

How you raise it with your bank is a matter for you and their customer service, I would have thought

SunnyD4ys · 14/09/2025 11:05

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Where do I report my bank to from not doing that then?

Frankly you're talking nonsense, not every bank asks for an OTP for every online transaction

In fact this morning I've paid for something on line and all I had to input were my card details and name, not even my address

JHound · 14/09/2025 11:04

Bank details or card details? If the former you need a new bank. Actually even with card details.

Payments from mine need me to authorise them. And why would your friend have your card details from a shared holiday?

This story makes no sense.

NoodleHorses · 14/09/2025 11:02

Whether or not you owe her money, her using your card details is theft and would be seen as such by your card company. Contact them immediately and freeze the card and have them send a new one out with a new PIN.
I get that you owe her some money but that is outrageous behaviour.
In the meantime, keep a record of every penny paid back, with dates. Get this person off your back as what she has done is not ok.

HeadsWinTailsLose · 14/09/2025 10:59

I don’t even give my DH my card to pay contactless so there’s no way a friend would have my card details. You were naive to give all the details from your card to anyone. Order a new card, lesson learned the hard way.

Namechangedagain999 · 14/09/2025 10:49

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 14/09/2025 10:48

Isobel201 · 14/09/2025 10:12

what I don't understand is how her credit card was declined due to no money on the account, that's not how credit cards work. To me that would be a debit card.

I think OP made a error from debit to credit, as she had a balance of 80 on it.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 14/09/2025 10:46

I never received a code when paying directly to the company, ie payment on a phone call automated system, or buying oil.
I agree, that she should be your first priority over a food shop, I'd have transferred 50, used 30 for essentials.

PlaceIntheClouds · 14/09/2025 10:42

Cancel the card.
Continue to pay back the money as agreed.

Namechangedagain999 · 14/09/2025 10:40

Isobel201 · 14/09/2025 10:12

what I don't understand is how her credit card was declined due to no money on the account, that's not how credit cards work. To me that would be a debit card.

You should do if its a different card from normal.

SerendipityJane · 14/09/2025 10:29

Lifejigsaw · 14/09/2025 07:27

NOT ALL CARDS AND BANKS ARE LIKE YOURS PEOPLE.

just because you have TFA or OTOs set up for every transaction doesn’t mean it’s impossible not to. I only have to verify for large or unusual (international) payments when buying on line. It’s not that strange

All UK banks should be insisting on Strong Customer Authentication (SCA) for online transactions. This will require some form of 2FA.

For OPs friend to have used the OPs credit card means the OP has broken their contract over the account usage and therefore liable for fraud - which the bank will need reported to the police to investigate.

https://www.fca.org.uk/firms/strong-customer-authentication

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Bestfootforward11 · 14/09/2025 10:24

This sounds messy me.
It doesn’t sound like your friend could afford the money she gave you for your business if she’s just paid her phone bill using your account details. Either that or she’s unhappy with the situation in some way but she has crossed a line. She can’t hold the fact she lent you money as meaning she can do anything she likes.
Her using your card details is fraud. Up to you what you make of that. But I wouldn’t be happy with that at all. Get a new card.
You need to sort out your own financial situation as it’s not sustainable. If your DD is 6 she likely goes to school and I’d try find a job that means a regular income within those hours if possible. Any new business stuff is for evenings.
good luck.

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/09/2025 10:18

Isobel201 · 14/09/2025 10:12

what I don't understand is how her credit card was declined due to no money on the account, that's not how credit cards work. To me that would be a debit card.

True

unless op has reached her limit on card. Esp if only has say 200 on it

tho again with credit cards it takes usually a day or two to reach account maximum so sounds like a debit card

puzzled tbh

Rallentanda · 14/09/2025 10:17

Even if this is true - I just struggle to understand why she had all of your card details, I have paid for holidays with friends and shared presents and all sorts and have never not once given away the security details of my account - then the solution is boring and simple

Get your card replaced immediately
Keep paying your friend back
Probably accept the friendship is compromised
Get on with your life.

leadedwindows · 14/09/2025 10:17

It's theft.
Cancel your card.
Never, ever trust her again.

Isobel201 · 14/09/2025 10:12

what I don't understand is how her credit card was declined due to no money on the account, that's not how credit cards work. To me that would be a debit card.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 14/09/2025 10:03

bevelino · 14/09/2025 09:56

When paying the phone bill the friend would almost certainly have said she was the owner of the card and used the security code on the card instead of the one time password.

Agreed. I often don't get MFA if it is something standard and dull like a phone bill.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 14/09/2025 10:02

LoveWine123 · 13/09/2025 23:09

Why are you using the money your ex sends for your child to pay your business loan?

Presumably all money goes into a pot, and as such 'her' money has gone on their child and keeping them housed and fed. Has the dad kicked in more to help over the period the child has been ill and mum couldn't earn? Or offered to look after said child so mum could work? Am guessing not