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Brother trashed the house while we were away TW: abuse

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Catar · 13/09/2025 18:59

Hi all, not even sure what I want posting this but my head is all over. Just got back this morning after being away with DP and the boys (DS3.5 and DS8mo). We only went an hour and a half away, Tuesday to today, just a little break. Came home and the house is absolutely trashed. My little brother who has just turned 18 is living here and honestly I feel like we’re at breaking point.

Bit of backstory. I’m 17 years older than him, I was basically grown when he was little. Our mum had what we now know was Munchausen by proxy with him, but back then everyone thought she was just struggling with a “poorly” child. She convinced doctors he had all sorts, dragged him in and out of hospitals, had schools thinking he was fragile. The only thing real is he’s type 1 diabetic. But even that she sort of used to make herself look like this amazing mum who was coping. He actually missed huge chunks of school from reception onwards, then she de-registered him completely at about 9 “for home ed” but she never taught him a thing. He can barely read now, writing is basically just a few words. All those years she was claiming DLA then later PIP for him.

When he was 17 she kicked him out after a massive row and I had to phone SS because he was still a child legally. They were useless tbh. Came out, spoke to him, said he was nearly 18 so not much they could do. I’ve reported concerns so many times over the years but each time my mum would cut me off and then later pretend nothing had happened. It’s always been me trying to pick up the pieces.

He’s 18 now but he’s like a lost little boy and also an absolute nightmare. He won’t go to therapy, refuses point blank, says everyone is against him. He doesn’t manage his diabetes properly at all, sometimes doesn’t take his insulin, sometimes injects too much, sometimes I have to beg him to let me do it. He drinks loads of monster and eats crap and then crashes. He’s constantly in and out of A&E, I’m waiting for the day I get the call that something awfuls happened.

His behaviour here is just off the scale. He smokes weed in his room, leaves food and dirty dishes everywhere, steals DP’s vape stuff and alcohol. He lies constantly, gets aggressive if you call him out, I’ve found used condoms in the bathroom bin, burnt spoons in his room, god knows what he’s been doing. He goes through my stuff too, I found my bank card hidden in his drawer once, he said he “borrowed” it but there was a £60 Deliveroo order on it.

He’s got no social skills at all, he doesn’t know how to be around people. It’s like he’s been trapped in a bubble his whole life. We just got home today and it’s disgusting. Plates of mouldy food in the living room, carpet ruined, my little one’s toys smashed, DS3.5’s little chair snapped in half. There’s fag burns on the sofa and he’s written on the wall in sharpie. Our bedroom has been gone through, I know because DP had hid some money in the wardrobe and it’s gone. There was actual sick in the sink too, just left there. And he’s also left his bloody needles lying about, which is terrifying with the babies here.

DP is at the end of his tether, says we can’t live like this and he needs to go. But where? He can’t look after himself. He’s still like a child in his head. He doesn’t cook anything other than chips or noodles in the microwave, doesn’t shower unless told, doesn’t wash clothes. He doesn’t understand basic life stuff because mum literally kept him so dependent.

Part of me feels desperately sorry for him, he had no chance with mum, she ruined his education and made him sick in the head about being ill all the time. His dad has never been in his life, mum abused him, so I’m all he really has. I don’t want to just abandon him. He can actually be really good with DS3.5, they’ll sit and play cars together for ages and DS adores him, but then the next minute he’s raging about something stupid and slamming doors and breaking things.

I feel guilty leaving him but I also feel like he’s dangerous to have around my kids. I just don’t know what to do anymore. I can’t be his carer, I’ve got two little boys and a DP who’s at breaking point. But if I kick him out where will he go? He has no job, no friends that aren’t into drugs, he doesn’t even know how to fill a form in. I honestly think he can’t even apply for universal credit without someone sitting with him.

Sorry this is so long and rambly.

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RoseRedorDead · 14/09/2025 16:49

@Catar I have a different suggestion. I know everyone is saying he has to leave, and I can see why with your kids there. However, what the poor boy needs is structure, rules, routine and a plan to sort his life out. You can give him this but you, your partner and he all have to be willing. If he stays, you essentially become his parents. He has to abide by your house rules (no smoking, vaping etc), he has to start learning and he needs to look for a job. Give him a day a week he needs to cook for the family, give him chores. What you are really doing is showing him he is loved and part of a family which is something he's probably never experienced. 17 is still so young. I have ds 18 and ds16. They're both still at home- eldest has decided to commute to university. I don't blame him as we're a chill home, but it's been based on them learning respect through structure and boundaries. And lots of downtime and a relaxed atmosphere 😂

You can all turn this around. He doesn't have to become homeless but there needs to be a plan that you are all working towards. Does he have any interests/ hobbies that you could encourage him with?

rainbowunicorn22 · 14/09/2025 16:16

if he stays,, you are putting the children at risk; you said needles, sick, broken items young ones should not have to be put through all that.
you are not responsible for what your mother did, that is done now nothing to do with you.
i think you have to be firm tell social services he needs to go he is putting you all at risk. he will have to go in a hostel or similar and damn well face up to life
before long it will be a choice between him and your husband

Hibernatingtilspring · 14/09/2025 16:12

Op as I said earlier on the thread, it doesn't have to be a choice between him living with you or sending him off without a backwards glance (as much as some posters seem to think it is!)
I think it would be wise to push adult services that you can't have him live with you, and see if they can help him move into something supported in a planned way, rather than a b&b on the day through the homeless route. Be aware that you have to be quite strong on this. Also if you're referring without his consent, you'll need to be clear that it's a safeguarding vulnerable adult referral, otherwise they'll knock it back and say he has to agree.

BigBirdOfPrey · 14/09/2025 15:47

You need to put your children first b4 you do to them what your mum done to him.
social services would take your kids if they are at risk of needle spiking

this is a no brainier, why is he not gone?
Burnt spoons- there will be several houses he can go to.

Volpini · 14/09/2025 15:34

Can’t believe the tone of some of these comments.
OP, wishing you and all of your family all the best. Hope you all get the support you need and deserve.

WhiskyintheJarr · 14/09/2025 15:20

Well, best of luck to you. Because I think you’re going to need it.

Catar · 14/09/2025 15:19

I've already said what I'm going to do, maybe read the replies instead of being judgmental.

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WhiskyintheJarr · 14/09/2025 15:16

So show up for them then. Stop putting your brother first. I know it’s hard. I know you love him and you’re beside yourself with worry about him. But you can’t fix him.

Catar · 14/09/2025 15:06

Well I didn't post on here to be called a bad mum.

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WhiskyintheJarr · 14/09/2025 14:42

Yeah I bet you are out. Cop out.

Catar · 14/09/2025 14:31

I've said I'm phoning them tomorrow, there's not much point calling them at half 2 on a Sunday, it isn't an emergency so they wouldn't do anything today. The children aren't actively in danger and they aren't in any danger anyway. Yes, he lies a lot but I can tell when he's lying and he's not a heroin addict. Some people here pick a narrative and run with it to try and make out he's a monster.

Ironically, a poster who didn't a boy not much older than my brother to stay with her because she didn't know him got told she was unreasonable, I know my brother and kicking him out and having nothing to do with him (as a poster suggested) will make things worse don't you think? He's vulnerable to himself but also an easy target for other people. He's got no one other than me.

I'd much rather he be safe here than constantly worrying about him, that doesn't make me a bad mum to my boys either. He's their uncle and DS1 especially adores him

Anyway, thanks to the helpful posters but I'm out

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WhiskyintheJarr · 14/09/2025 14:08

How can you stand to have this around your children? Don’t you want more for them? Don’t you want better than this?

CallMeEvelyn · 14/09/2025 14:03

Thepeopleversuswork · 14/09/2025 13:34

@Catar

About the spoons, yes I asked him. He swore blind he wasn’t doing anything dodgy, said he was trying to melt chocolate (which sounds ridiculous but he really doesn’t know how to cook at all, so I half believe it). He looked really offended when I suggested drugs and I do want to believe him

He would say that wouldn’t he?

Heroin addicts don’t freely admit to having a life limiting addiction when they know admitting to it will cost them a roof over their head and food.

Come on OP. It couldn’t be clearer if it was tattooed on his forehead. Please, for your children’s sake, wake up.

I agree.

You're looking for excuses, OP, instead of prioritising your children and DP which is what you absolutely have to do.

Also, sorry, but according to your own excuses for his behaviour, you must have lost your mind to have left him alone in your house and go on holiday.

Wake up and let professionals manage him - you can't.

SewNotHappy · 14/09/2025 13:59

If he is genuinely burning himself cooking then maybe I was wrong about the burnt spoon being crack cocaine related. Crack pipes and lighters get REALLY hot and high people can be pretty careless with them!

He should have had his PIP paid directly to him since 16 BTW, if this hasn't been happening them your mum has herself set up as his appointee. This also needs to be pointed out to social services and the DWP.

ilovepixie · 14/09/2025 13:52

It’s your husband and children or your brother. You have to decide. Ring social services ( or even your Dr for advice) say he’s a danger to your children and can’t live with you anymore. Take him to the council and get him registered as homeless. There can be help out there, it’s just a matter of finding it.

Lovingbooks · 14/09/2025 13:46

You said he lies constantly lying, stealing go hand in hand with drug use he smokes weed regularly he can’t cook but you believe he bent a spoon to melt chocolate because he looked offended, this is someone who trashed your house has no concern for anyone else. He clearly is a drug user but you can’t accept it.

Strawberriesandlemon · 14/09/2025 13:46

Strawberriesandlemon · 14/09/2025 13:39

There’s 2 sides to every story. Maybe she’s known you haven’t liked her from the off and is upset, or can’t be bothered to put in anymore energy then she’s already put in trying to get you to like her. You are probably completely different personalities, and that’s ok. But unless he wants your help I would keep your opinions to yourself and try and see a different side. If DB is happy and they have children together leave them be. They are their own family. And the saying ‘ don’t let the family you come from ruin the family that came from you’ holds very true imo. And you shouldn’t risk losing or upsetting your brother or his wife because you don’t like her personality by saying things to him or medaling unless it was clear abuse, which it doesn’t sound like it is. Just that you don’t like her.

Sorry my comment was for a completely unrelated post. Have no idea why it’s posted on this thread. Ignore what I’ve said. It’s totally unrelated to OP

GingerBeverage · 14/09/2025 13:45

Oh well if he looked offended…

You cannot save this man. But you can save your children from being in his chaos.

Strawberriesandlemon · 14/09/2025 13:39

There’s 2 sides to every story. Maybe she’s known you haven’t liked her from the off and is upset, or can’t be bothered to put in anymore energy then she’s already put in trying to get you to like her. You are probably completely different personalities, and that’s ok. But unless he wants your help I would keep your opinions to yourself and try and see a different side. If DB is happy and they have children together leave them be. They are their own family. And the saying ‘ don’t let the family you come from ruin the family that came from you’ holds very true imo. And you shouldn’t risk losing or upsetting your brother or his wife because you don’t like her personality by saying things to him or medaling unless it was clear abuse, which it doesn’t sound like it is. Just that you don’t like her.

Thepeopleversuswork · 14/09/2025 13:34

@Catar

About the spoons, yes I asked him. He swore blind he wasn’t doing anything dodgy, said he was trying to melt chocolate (which sounds ridiculous but he really doesn’t know how to cook at all, so I half believe it). He looked really offended when I suggested drugs and I do want to believe him

He would say that wouldn’t he?

Heroin addicts don’t freely admit to having a life limiting addiction when they know admitting to it will cost them a roof over their head and food.

Come on OP. It couldn’t be clearer if it was tattooed on his forehead. Please, for your children’s sake, wake up.

WhiskyintheJarr · 14/09/2025 13:29

Sorry OP but if I was your partner I’d be packing my stuff (and the kids’ stuff) at this point.

(well actually no I’d probably have done it ages ago but your most recent post confirms that this isn’t going to get better for the children any time soon…)

Toadstoollover · 14/09/2025 13:18

Op, I get that you want to protect him but this could cost you your marriage and/or children.
No one could blame your dh if he left with the kids. In his situation I would definitely leave with my kids and I would to ensure that they were not allowed back in an unsafe house.

You cannot do what’s right by your brother and your kids so sadly you have a harsh choice to make.

im really sorry you’re going through this

Lovingbooks · 14/09/2025 13:06

Ring social services now on the emergency number no need to wait until tomorrow you are just excusing his behaviours.

Daisymail · 14/09/2025 13:05

Burnt spoons = drugs. Stop prioritising your brother over your DP and children.

Catar · 14/09/2025 13:03

I am going to call adult social services tomorrow, I know that’s what has to happen. But I just can’t bring myself to send him to the council with a bag and say he’s homeless, I honestly think he would feel completely abandoned and he is so vulnerable, I can’t do that to him. It’s not just that he’d be upset, it’s that I don’t think he would cope, like genuinely. He’s really like a child in so many ways.

He does burn himself cooking, yes, but it’s not usually bad because we’re normally here so we step in before it gets that far. When we went away that’s when he managed to properly burn his hand because he put a pizza in and left it til it was basically black, then tried to take it out without a cloth or anything. Normally he’ll just mess things up but we can stop it before he actually injures himself.

About the spoons, yes I asked him. He swore blind he wasn’t doing anything dodgy, said he was trying to melt chocolate (which sounds ridiculous but he really doesn’t know how to cook at all, so I half believe it). He looked really offended when I suggested drugs and I do want to believe him. I know people said you don’t burn spoons for anything else but honestly with him, he could’ve been doing something stupid like that.

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