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Am I considered far right now?

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Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

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thedramaQueen · 13/09/2025 18:42

YourLemonTiger · 13/09/2025 18:38

I've no idea if the minutiae of the nazi party proves they were right or left wing but full fact is about as reliable and unbiased as bbc fact check imo.

Edited

Quick google search and you can many examples that support this view -free feel to do some of your own research.

gov · 13/09/2025 18:41

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 17:18

Yes is this, also not saying he’s a nice person

But this is not true. He’s a total narcissistic liar. If you believe that he’s actually doing anything to improve any aspect of the world then you not checking your sources or applying critical thinking. Follow the USA in more detail - eg historian Heather Cox Richardson on fb and you would get a more realistic view of what is happening there / how terrifying and divisive it is - and it will frighten you for the future of the UK too if we let the same division happen here. It should haul every thinking person back to the centre ground.

Fizzer5 · 13/09/2025 18:40

Trump can be admired for making America his first priority. Targetting some of the gangs and migration.
The rest though: Very unlikeable. His rule by decree makes him seem medieval. Even our Tudors were constrained in some ways.
He has lost several Court cases and refuses to pay up.

Like most of Europe I support abortion and oppose the death penalty.
My opinion is that the OP is right of centre.

monkeysox · 13/09/2025 18:40

Pleasegodgotosleep · 13/09/2025 16:13

Yes

I can't get past liking trump. For fucks sake.

TheLizardQueen · 13/09/2025 18:39

@UserUserUser12 yes I do quite like Trump. Same as I liked Charlie Kirk. I don’t have to agree with everything they said but they are patriots. The biggest thing I like about Trump is that he’s stopped men in dresses in women’s sports.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 13/09/2025 18:38

Lazytiger · 13/09/2025 18:37

Apart from Charlie Kirk (who I had never heard of until this week) and willingly watching Piers Morgan (I don't watch him because of his arrogance, rather than his views), I honestly could have written this!

It's sad to now be thought of as 'right-wing' when my views really haven't changed that much from the 80s leftie upbringing I had.

This is because far left ideology has become seen as centre - it’s just been dressed up a bit

YourLemonTiger · 13/09/2025 18:38

thedramaQueen · 13/09/2025 18:36

I've no idea if the minutiae of the nazi party proves they were right or left wing but full fact is about as reliable and unbiased as bbc fact check imo.

Gloriia · 13/09/2025 18:38

MayaPinion · 13/09/2025 18:36

What is ‘woke’? My mother bandies this word about but when I ask her what she means she can’t define it. I guess that’s the outcome of getting your ‘truth’ from the Daily Mail.

Woke imo is people who pretend they care very deeply about trendy topics yet mock and attack people who disagree.

Very contrary.

Buttonmoon45 · 13/09/2025 18:37

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 18:35

The irony.

Really? Do enlighten me….

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 13/09/2025 18:37

Pinepeak2434 · 13/09/2025 17:01

I’m considering voting Reform because illegal immigration is a serious issue that undermines the rule of law and puts pressure on public services like healthcare, housing, and schools, affecting everyone including those who came here legally. It’s unfair to people who follow the proper legal process, while others bypass the rules. I also support parts of Reform’s platform on government accountability, fiscal responsibility, and ensuring laws are enforced fairly. Other parties have consistently failed to enforce existing laws or implement policies that truly control borders, leaving the system open to abuse.

Sorry, I meant crack on, not jog on in my previous reply. The pressure it’s putting on public services is down to the failure of successive governments to invest in anything other than their own best interests… why blame the small boat people. You say that it’s unfair to those who come here legally, but what are they supposed to do when there are no legal channels for them? Where was the outrage when Ukrainians wanted to come here? They were fleeing war… so are the people in Afghanistan, including those that helped the British and then not only got left behind, but had their personal details left in tact in the embassy for the taliban to find.

The pressure on housing is due to multiple factors that would exist even if they weren’t coming here. Council houses were sold off… nothing was built to replace them. New properties that get built are made available to overseas investors rather than just to people that actually live in this country. Air bnb has been allowed to proliferate whereas it should be abolished. Massive housing blocks get built with almost no social housing included. Successive governments have underfunded at every turn. It beggars belief that people can seriously believe that the guy that gave us Brexit (and look how well that’s turned out) could change this country for the better.If Brexit hasn’t demonstrated to you that the man chats out of his backside, then I guess only Reform winning a general election will. At which point, of course, it will be too late but no worries… I’m sure we can find some minority group or other to blame.

Lazytiger · 13/09/2025 18:37

Apart from Charlie Kirk (who I had never heard of until this week) and willingly watching Piers Morgan (I don't watch him because of his arrogance, rather than his views), I honestly could have written this!

It's sad to now be thought of as 'right-wing' when my views really haven't changed that much from the 80s leftie upbringing I had.

Gloriia · 13/09/2025 18:36

CurlewKate · 13/09/2025 18:27

As a point of information, I am very much of the left and I think Charlie Kirk was a ghastly
human being. This does not mean I don’t think his assassination was an appalling crime and a tragedy for his family and friends. And I definitely don’t think he deserved it. And I don’t know anyone who celebrated his death.

You have labelled someone a 'ghastly human being'. Someone horrifically murdered.

You didn't have to tell us you were 'on the left' your comments speak for themselves.

You are allowed to disagree with someone's beliefs without calling them 'ghastly'.

MayaPinion · 13/09/2025 18:36

AmazonianWarrior · 13/09/2025 18:33

I agree with most things that you’re saying and I definitely don’t think I’m right wing at all. I have no hate in me towards anyone. I’ve not heard of Charlie Kirk before and there are a lot of things I don’t agree with re Trump, like fracking. TBH I don’t follow politics so I don’t know much about his policies.
I’m very accepting towards others as long as they are accepting as well and not try to force their beliefs on others.
I believe in God and being kind to others, I also love nature, animals and cooking. I’m traditional and don’t like the woke agenda being pushed on people. Let everyone be, accept everyone the way they are, that’s what I believe. Didn’t get the covid injection either. Open to friendships with likeminded people. 💗

Edited

What is ‘woke’? My mother bandies this word about but when I ask her what she means she can’t define it. I guess that’s the outcome of getting your ‘truth’ from the Daily Mail.

thedramaQueen · 13/09/2025 18:36

DarthTrick · 13/09/2025 18:33

You understand that the Nazi party was a socialist left wing political party, and Hitler was it's leader? The fact you think Hitler was right wing is an incorrect assumption made by many many people.

Mussolini was left wing also, and we know Stalin, Mao et al were left wing.

The Nazis were not socialists – Full Fact

The Nazis were not socialists – Full Fact

Despite naming themselves the national socialist party, the Nazi’s policies - including the persecution of left-wing critics - did not align with socialist ideals.

https://fullfact.org/online/nazis-socialists/

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 18:35

TheLizardQueen · 13/09/2025 18:35

OP I could’ve written this myself. I agree with everything you just said, except I DO like Tommy Robinson, there I said it!!

You also ‘quite like Trump’ too? Which bits?

DarthTrick · 13/09/2025 18:35

MayaPinion · 13/09/2025 18:33

If anything you sound like a trad wife and a right wing conservative.

I don’t believe the trans issue is a right wing - left wing issue. Remember it flourished and was arguably at its peak during the last conservative government so I don’t think the left can lay claim to it, but I think anyone who prioritises the safety and dignity of women over a male’s right to enter their spaces and competitions is exercising common sense.

To me, far right is about extreme measures - violence, intimidation, aggression - and admiring those who incite it and advocate for it - Farage, Hopkins, Yaxley-Lennon, and yes, Trump, Kirk, Tate, and their ilk. None of these people are actually interested in improving the lives of citizens. They want dominance and submission. They want to ‘win’ at all cost.

Dominance and submission is a left wing requirement...comply with the world view or be cancelled, executed, sent to a Gulag. Nothing right wing about that at all.

See also; East Germany 1947 to 1991...

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 18:35

Buttonmoon45 · 13/09/2025 18:27

Oh dear another trump triggered sheep

The irony.

TheLizardQueen · 13/09/2025 18:35

OP I could’ve written this myself. I agree with everything you just said, except I DO like Tommy Robinson, there I said it!!

OldMcDonaldHadABigMac · 13/09/2025 18:34

Pleasegodgotosleep · 13/09/2025 16:13

Yes

Right or far right? If far right, why?

UserUserUser12 · 13/09/2025 18:34

withgraceinmyheart · 13/09/2025 18:10

Has he been convicted of rape? I know there’s a huge volume of women who’ve made accusations but I can’t see anything about him being prosecuted or convicted?

(Not defending him on any level or any way)

No, but convicted in a civil case of sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll. Plenty of other reprehensible documented quotes from him, allegations and his interactions with Epstein, however.

DarthTrick · 13/09/2025 18:33

ThatCyanCat · 13/09/2025 18:25

Hitler? You mean Stalin?

You understand that the Nazi party was a socialist left wing political party, and Hitler was it's leader? The fact you think Hitler was right wing is an incorrect assumption made by many many people.

Mussolini was left wing also, and we know Stalin, Mao et al were left wing.

AmazonianWarrior · 13/09/2025 18:33

Septemberisaweirdmonth · 13/09/2025 16:12

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

I agree with most things that you’re saying and I definitely don’t think I’m right wing at all. I have no hate in me towards anyone. I’ve not heard of Charlie Kirk before and there are a lot of things I don’t agree with re Trump, like fracking. TBH I don’t follow politics so I don’t know much about his policies.
I’m very accepting towards others as long as they are accepting as well and not try to force their beliefs on others.
I believe in God and being kind to others, I also love nature, animals and cooking. I’m traditional and don’t like the woke agenda being pushed on people. Let everyone be, accept everyone the way they are, that’s what I believe. Didn’t get the covid injection either. Open to friendships with likeminded people. 💗

MayaPinion · 13/09/2025 18:33

If anything you sound like a trad wife and a right wing conservative.

I don’t believe the trans issue is a right wing - left wing issue. Remember it flourished and was arguably at its peak during the last conservative government so I don’t think the left can lay claim to it, but I think anyone who prioritises the safety and dignity of women over a male’s right to enter their spaces and competitions is exercising common sense.

To me, far right is about extreme measures - violence, intimidation, aggression - and admiring those who incite it and advocate for it - Farage, Hopkins, Yaxley-Lennon, and yes, Trump, Kirk, Tate, and their ilk. None of these people are actually interested in improving the lives of citizens. They want dominance and submission. They want to ‘win’ at all cost.

GiraffesAtThePark · 13/09/2025 18:32

You’re right wing I’d say. Im somewhere in the centre and share some of your beliefs. I just don’t get how can anyone quite like Trump. The self enrichment and damage to democracy would put me off any candidate regardless of where they were on the political spectrum.

MyLimeGuide · 13/09/2025 18:32

Calmomiletea · 13/09/2025 18:22

It's not that you have become far right, but rather that there has arisen a new level of wickedness, replacing what used to be the far left.

Just look at the vile, vile people rejoicing in the murder of a young man, who, if you actually listen to what he said (rather than taking his comments out of context), you would know he desired the best for everyone around him.
The level of vitriol shown by people who are rejoicing in his violent and merciless death is not something you would have seen by the far left even years ago, they would have understood how degenerate such behaviour is, but they've been so completely replaced that those who have taken their place rejoice without shame. Its a new level of wickedness. Don't be ashamed for having views that reflect your love for your neighbour, the shame lies with those who are filled with hate.

I share your views on this fully. The union guy at Oxford celebrating his death sickened me to my core. There has been so many ppl on mumsnet in the last 24hrs also celebrating his death its crazy scary!

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