To think it's impossible to eat a UPF free diet as an ordinary person?

There are many people who could think of alternatives, though, to suit their circumstances and budget. I don't think the PP was recommending it as the best, most accessible diet for all, more giving examples of UPF free diet. Anyone else is free to take that info and adapt it to suit their circumstances - I don't think it's the posters job to do that for other people every time they post. And anyone who genuinely wants to learn can Google what a soffrito is in the time it takes to post a reply.

For example, just off the top of my head, four eggs could be substituted for two eggs, one slice of bread, an apple and a glass of milk. I'd go so far as to say that'd actually be healthier anyway.
Blackberries could be substituted for bananas, tinned peaches or frozen berries.
Oxtail is fairly cheap, or used to be. Boiler chickens can be available cheap from the butchers for stews, or a high fibre/protein alternative is a stew with a soffrito (celery and onions are cheap) made from tinned beans and a dash of oil. And dried herbs are obviously available more cheaply than fresh.

Seriously, I get it can be frustrating when you're restricted, but it really isn't every posters responsibility to make sure their circumstances are also easily accessible for everyone else. Especially as there was no judgement from her about what others do/don't do. If you genuinely want to learn from others, it can be actually helpful to hear what others do, because you can adapt it to suit you. If you want to, that is.

Same, l don’t eat a lot of meat either. I switched to using red and white miso pastes and actually prefer it over the stock pots.

Plus, I don’t use it for just soups. Use the miso for making sauces, dressings, marinades, etc..

I get it. I don't like foccacia. Like you I have tried an artisan version and made my own.

You can do it by eating simply, and buying the "best" ingredients. You can buy fresh stock, fresh egg pasta, you can cook just fish and meat with vegetables and salads. Yoghurt and fruit for breakfast.

I do..... But..... I do also eat crisps and biscuits, because otherwise life would be dull.

I don't even need to hunt cows.....they're literally standing in fields 5 mins away! They're too cute to boil though. 😔

Of course budget affects it, that's the main issue for many folk.

It's the weird texture and lack of actual taste.
I have baked many different breads in the past and also tried a variety of decent loaves from local bakeries, so it's not as if I only like very processed supermarket loaves.

That’s a valid point. I was just surprised by the number of ‘its impossible’ comments, so I guess the caveat could be ‘it’s impossible on a budget.’

What is UPF? Haha

I think its definitely a marmite food but often its the rye in sourdough that people dislike. Personally I can't stand even the smell of rye. While I know its said to be "healthier" than the same ingredients made into normal bread, even though I enjoy it, I am unconvinced about the health benefits.

You made me laugh out loud 😂

The point of cutting down UPF is to benefit your health, not to be the best most pure non-UPF person ever.
You don't get a medal.

I’ve moved almost entirely non upf in last month.

It can be, if you choose cheap and easy things

Honestly, I know which meals benefit from addition of a stock cube, and how to use seasonings and herbs and spices, and yes, I can taste the difference.

Sourdough is no better for you than a homemade wholemeal loaf with lots of added seeds, in fact the wholemeal loaf is probably a much better choice. Buy a breadmaker if it takes too to much time.

Just make small changes. I've seen people on here debating which tinned tomatoes arenit UPF. I mean, tinned tomatoes are a good choice, there's no need to overthink it.

Loads of fresh fruit and veg, quality protein and good fats. That's about it, unless you're an influencer or have a book to flog.

I don't mean to be cheeky, but you are aware that this is quite a privileged comment?
Some people don't have gardens, let alone gardens with blackberries or rosemary in.
Some people couldn't afford to eat 4 poached eggs for one meal.
Some people won't even know what soffrito is.

Honestly people, try your meals without a stock cube. Chuck some herbs in instead, maybe a bouquet Garni, maybe nothing. Get back to me if you can even taste the difference.

No M and S remotely near us, sadly.

Oh no, I heat it, sorry! I just said oats rather than porridge as I buy plain jumbo oats rather than a processed porridge. I just put oats and milk into a pan and cook for about 5 minutes. I don't like the thought of overnight oats, though I've not tried it. But cold porridge doesn't sound very appealing! I think that porridge is always going to be claggy, but it shouldn't separate if you remember to stir. Though if you wander off to make coffee / lunch and forget about it, it turns into a solid lump, so that might work if you don't want it to separate!

Completely agree!
And, I might get slated for this, but the odd canned item isn't the end of the world either. An average person on an average income, or less, has to make different choices to those with unlimited income and/or time - less UPF is still a good approach, if no UPF seems unreachable/unrealistic. Balance matters.

I agree. This is my approach too.

I disagree. I make soup a lot but never have bones in the house as I eat very little meat and never on the bone.

I don’t like just water (shades of Woolton pie!) so I use miso, Freya or refrigerated bone broth, marmite or yes, a stock cube, (though usually not OXO).

Its all fine. The key is balance overall.

M&s sell upf stock in a jar and only tiny bit more expensive but yea it's in all sorts once you start looking for it. Bisto old fashioned cardboard square box is upf

Oh and she seared the oxtail in beef tallow bought from Amazon