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Thread 2 Turn your son in knowing he’d get the death penalty

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Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 10:11

1st thread is full - this is to continue the convo. My original question is below:

’Kirk’s killer has apparently been turned in by his family - or persuaded to hand himself in.
Trump &’his supporters have been very vocal about getting the death penalty for the shooter.
would YOU hand your child over, knowing that the electric chair would be the likely outcome?

YANBU - I wouldn’t turn him in to die.
YABU - I would he’s a killer and deserves all he gets

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lljkk · 13/09/2025 12:35

Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 10:27

‘as for Charlie Kirk’s wife she is in shock,’

she didn’t write that speech off the top of her head, some MAGA speechwriters did that for her.
There’s a brand to protect, don’t forget, a cash cow that all the people working on want to make sure it keeps going.

I must admit my third thought when I heard her words was ... she's going to have lots of money to raise her kids & live a nice lifestyle. At some point there will be investigation into whether she mis-spent all that money that was donated.

Thought 1: she moved from grief to fury very fast

Thought 2: keen to believe this was a conspiracy or TR was "groomed" by lefties into becoming a murderer. I guess the "groomed by evil people" explanation will be very popular with MAGA.

ps: how can there be anything left to say about family turning in family for criminal prosecution. It's long running subplot on The Archers, btw, for anyone who wants to explore their feelings about that topic further.

5128gap · 13/09/2025 12:24

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On a thread where you are saying you would protect your son's life despite the risk he posed to the lives of others, you expect another woman to do 'the right thing' and suppress her anger at her husband's murder for the greater good? Why are you holding this woman to a standard higher than your own?

EasternStandard · 13/09/2025 12:17

Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 11:02

I’m not the left. MAGA Barbie’s a a demographic. And I find it hard to feel for anyone coming out and making a speech like that - but then they are evangelical Christian’s so for them revenge and fire and brimstone are par for the course.

‘MAGA Barbie’

So much hate on social media. It’s all part of it.

Tunacheesequesadilla · 13/09/2025 12:13

Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 12:10

I don’t see how he could get a fair trial, although perhaps the death sentence will be taken off the table in exchange for a full confession.

Hopefully not

Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 12:10

I don’t see how he could get a fair trial, although perhaps the death sentence will be taken off the table in exchange for a full confession.

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Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 11:55

I couldn’t turn my child over to the authorities knowing that the President has already condemned them as guilty and said he hopes there’s the death penalty but in the case I can see why the family felt compelled to.

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smallpinecone · 13/09/2025 11:27

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She’s incapable of seeing it. How awful it must be to be so blinded by hatred with no ability to think rationally or think independently. Pitiable really.

SirRaymondClench · 13/09/2025 11:19

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Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 11:18

It’s clear now where that kids learned to shoot.

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smallpinecone · 13/09/2025 11:14

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Call for calm and divisions to be healed…

You expect this behaviour from others, but you’re unwilling to do it yourself. It’s the height of hypocrisy and speaks to your lack of principles or morals.

smallpinecone · 13/09/2025 11:10

Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 11:02

I’m not the left. MAGA Barbie’s a a demographic. And I find it hard to feel for anyone coming out and making a speech like that - but then they are evangelical Christian’s so for them revenge and fire and brimstone are par for the course.

A demographic, you say?

I thought lumping a group of people together and stereotyping based on their outward appearance was wrong.

Just own it, you didn’t like her husband, so you have no problem describing her in misogynistic terms. Anything to discredit her. Even her appearance.

HRTQueen · 13/09/2025 11:09

This isn’t about being on the left or right of politics

both sides have good empathetic people and both sides have people who are not

and most sit in the middle and again people of the same traits sit there

social media allows this lack of empathy l, the anger and hatred to be stirred to higher levels than ever before and creates division and it’s so damaging to humanity

amber763 · 13/09/2025 11:06

Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 11:02

I’m not the left. MAGA Barbie’s a a demographic. And I find it hard to feel for anyone coming out and making a speech like that - but then they are evangelical Christian’s so for them revenge and fire and brimstone are par for the course.

You find it hard to feel anything for a woman who watched some kid shoot and kill her husband? What the fuck are you talking about "maga barbie is a demographic"? Its misogynistic bullshit. Horrible lack of compassion. Have a word with yourself.

Tunacheesequesadilla · 13/09/2025 11:04

What a fucking disgusting thing to say about a woman, who has just watched her husband be shot and bleed out in front of her and their children.

Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 11:02

I’m not the left. MAGA Barbie’s a a demographic. And I find it hard to feel for anyone coming out and making a speech like that - but then they are evangelical Christian’s so for them revenge and fire and brimstone are par for the course.

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amber763 · 13/09/2025 11:00

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Wow this is an outrageous statement. The woman just watched her husband being assassinated and you're calling her maga barbie? The left are disgusting.

PickleJelly · 13/09/2025 10:58

MAGA Barbie? That is so disrespectful! She has just lost her husband in a horrifying way. I can't even begin to imagine the pain she is going through and she's having to manage this with the whole world watching. I don't believe you are right to judge her for her statement, she is understandably very angry!

TizerorFizz · 13/09/2025 10:58

@Tontostitis Why is family background being pointed out by a poster a huge problem? What attitude? I thought the same. Their DS would have been strung up by the mob and the parent went with a preacher to hand DS over. Not sure they had much choice.

A country that allows guns to be the norm expects deaths. Kirk said this so unfortunately their attitudes stink. Not the poster’s!

Disappointed the wife said anything - but that’s politics. No dignity.

smallpinecone · 13/09/2025 10:52

Why is it that the supposedly tolerant, kind, caring left always display the very behaviour they claim to despise?

‘Charlie Kirk was a misogynist! How awful!’ And then disparage his wife in misogynistic terms. It’s not a problem when they do it 😁

The hypocrisy and double standards are equally sad and amusing.

OxfordInkling · 13/09/2025 10:50

TheodoreisntBeth · 13/09/2025 10:26

"MAGA Barbie"? Are you always this disrespectful towards women?

Quite. The level of hatred the left has for anyone conservative is always astounding. OP should be ashamed of herself.

smallpinecone · 13/09/2025 10:44

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MAGA Barbie?

How misogynistic of you.

Tontostitis · 13/09/2025 10:43

Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 10:25

As more come out about the family it seems like they were Republican, traditionalist, churchgoing, gun toting etc so perhaps more inclined for turn the kid over to the authorities anyways.

You sound awful and attitudes like yours are a huge part of the problem

CameForAVacationStayedForTheRevolution · 13/09/2025 10:41

I wouldn’t be surprised if longer term she runs for a mainstream position such as a senator. Or goes to work for trump /vance

CameForAVacationStayedForTheRevolution · 13/09/2025 10:40

It’ll be interesting to see if she takes over as the mouthpiece of the organisation. Will she be the one on stage answering questions next?

HRTQueen · 13/09/2025 10:37

Idinnaenah · 13/09/2025 10:27

‘as for Charlie Kirk’s wife she is in shock,’

she didn’t write that speech off the top of her head, some MAGA speechwriters did that for her.
There’s a brand to protect, don’t forget, a cash cow that all the people working on want to make sure it keeps going.

I don’t doubt all that but ffs she will be dealing with her young children’s grief as well as her own

I can’t even imagine, and thankfully many of us can’t, how you begin to handle this

plus in the glare of the worlds press

I just can’t be critical of her at this point in time not everything needs to be about political scoring

this is what I hate about how decisive so many people have become is the lack of empathy and isn’t that excatly what many will criticise Charlie Kirk for