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I can’t stand my brother-in-law…and his abroad wedding…

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Thirls · 12/09/2025 09:24

Hello! I wanted some honest advice here. It’s a long one so buckle in if you have the time to help - thank you in advance 🩷

My BIL/SIL are insufferable, they will introduce themselves to strangers and within seconds will say how well off they are and are extremely entitled people. They also have serious tempers, very nasty and have screamed down the phone to us on many occasions - baring in mind they live on the other end of the country so we don’t see them often (thank god).

Anyway, they’re getting married abroad, they’ve given us just 11 months notice and it’s going to cost us £2k each to fly, stay, attend multiple gatherings including the wedding day. He’s having 4 stag dos, she’s having two - one of each are abroad too. We got married last year but it was local and never expected people to drop everything to attend, we know it’s a big ask and an expense, I was grateful if someone sent us a card honestly. They have not once acknowledged how much it costs for guests and have even told us that if we don’t stay the whole week for the wedding, then we shouldn’t go at all, and that goes for all the guests - their entitlement is rather clear now I think!

We have been going through fertility struggles this last year (who knew it was so difficult to make a baby!?) and I have been going through tests recently, so is my husband. Thankfully my test came back great so that was a massive relief - now just waiting on my husbands. I had an early loss in June sadly which led to a lot of pain, both physically and emotionally. And since then, it’s been a tough ride for me. I don’t feel comfortable at the thought of going abroad as I really do hope to be pregnant by then.

Now, I asked the SIL to be my bridesmaid last year, it just made sense as we’re family (sadly) and have to get along, so it was a safe choice. She’s now asked me to be one of her 9, which I knew she was just asking by default. She wants multiple gatherings, all of which are 4 hours drive away, and all she wants to do on a weekday. So as these are just planning/gatherings, they’re not hen dos, I said I would struggle to attend, but I specifically messaged her twice to say please don’t fuss about my availability and I’ll be supporting from afar and would love to see pictures of the night! I know from a brides perspective how difficult it is to get people together, and it’s expected one or two can’t make it…sadly, they don’t think the same.

I messaged SIL explaining that I couldn’t make the night she planned as we’ve booked a last minute holiday, it’s our last ditch attempt as I’ve timed it with my cycle, so I’ll be ovulating while we’re away, so I’m hoping being on holiday will help us conceive (that’s how I conceived earlier this year before the miscarriage). Yes, it’s a selfish thing to have booked it knowing she had this bridesmaid evening booked, I’m not making out I’m a saint here. But they don’t know our fertility struggles, and I don’t want them to know. But without them knowing, we probably are coming across as unreasonable.

So this is where I’m stuck (also this evening I am missing is just a bottle of wine and trying on some dresses, it’s not booked at a shop, she told everyone to buy their own dress and bring it with them to try on in front of everyone - it’s not a big thing in my opinion). She’s not replied and the brother in law called my husband saying awful things about me, I’ll never forgive him. I appreciate they don’t know what’s going on, but if they had just spoken to me directly and asked why we booked the holiday, rather than calling screaming down the phone and saying horrible things to me, I would have told them what’s going on.

So I’m in a pickle. Do I leave them to turn the whole family against me (I call them both the king and queen of England as literally they can do no wrong in the family’s eyes) and just don’t say anything, don’t attend the wedding etc. or do I just bite the bullet and tell them my deeply personal issues (not even my family know and they’re my world).

Sorry for the long message, please tell me what you would do? As I said, yes, booking the holiday after knowing the plans was selfish, I’m not going to deny it, but it’s not a hen do and I’m not buying a dress with my own money, driving 4 hours away to wear it in front of 9 people I don’t know, to be told that’s not the dress they’ll be picking…it’s not a big deal? Also one final thing, she’s been so incredibly rude to me the last year, and at the family Christmas meal she sat next to me and purposely turned her back so I couldn’t speak to her the whole meal. I was at the end of the table so I had no one else to speak with…so this has been an ongoing issue with her attitude with me for a long time now…this isn’t new!

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Nestingbirds · 12/09/2025 13:43

I second the health issues excuse and ease out of the whole debacle. Your dh can then decide if he travels alone to the wedding.

I personally wouldn’t be continuing anything beyond a very low contact relationship with someone so unkind.

pinkyredrose · 12/09/2025 13:37

Thirls · 12/09/2025 09:34

@Mugfills thank you for your reply! He doesn’t want the brother to know as he knows they could potentially turn our fertility issues into another reason to be nasty to us - yes, he’s that horrible. He won’t lose his relationship with his brother and has tried to protect me from many things, but wasn’t expecting the screaming call.

Ultimately he said I shouldn’t be a bridesmaid if I don’t want to be, but if I drop out it’ll be my word against theirs how the conversation goes, so his family will take their side whatever the case. He’s saying to leave it for now until they turn round to me and outright tell me I’m uninvited…

They sound horrific. I would definitely bow out of the wedding and call them to explain why and record the call too.

WutheringTights · 12/09/2025 13:35

Pricelessadvice · 12/09/2025 09:39

Don’t agree to something and then book a holiday instead.
I get why she is annoyed.

Just drop out of being a bridesmaid.

I think if it was one evening then you’d have a point, but it sounds like SIL has “reserved” many, many days, weekends and evenings, which is unreasonable. If a bride wants multiple events she has to understand that other people’s lives go on and they might miss some of them.

I also disagree with the comment saying that the context is irrelevant.

OP: don’t sweat it. Just because you’re related doesn’t mean that you have to like them. Just bow out with vague “medical” reasons.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 12/09/2025 13:27

Thirls · 12/09/2025 09:34

@Mugfills thank you for your reply! He doesn’t want the brother to know as he knows they could potentially turn our fertility issues into another reason to be nasty to us - yes, he’s that horrible. He won’t lose his relationship with his brother and has tried to protect me from many things, but wasn’t expecting the screaming call.

Ultimately he said I shouldn’t be a bridesmaid if I don’t want to be, but if I drop out it’ll be my word against theirs how the conversation goes, so his family will take their side whatever the case. He’s saying to leave it for now until they turn round to me and outright tell me I’m uninvited…

Your DH sounds weak. It's good he somewhat has your back I guess but he should have stood up to his brother the first time they tried shouting at you not this balancing game of not wanting to upset the family while trying to stand up for you.

Why is he so desperate to maintain a relationship with such a nasty brother who he acknowledges that they will use information such as your infertility issues against you?

In your shoes I wouldn't give a shit if his family are upset or not, they sound they have been pandering to the idiot BIL for a long time and everyone walks on eggs shells around him, well it's time to stand up to him and set firm boundaries once and for all.

Nana4 · 12/09/2025 13:23

Just tell SIL that this episode has made you realise that, although you appreciated her asking you to be bridesmaid, logistically is just isn’t going to be possible and think it’s only fair to her that you decline.

Travelling for 4 hours every time she wants a meet-up would be difficult for anyone with their own work/life commitments, and with that number of bridesmaids you won’t be the only one who cannot do all of the meetings.
Get out now and let her get on with it.
You can then decide later on if you attend the wedding or not.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 12/09/2025 13:21

Why are you pandering to what sound like an insufferable couple who your obviously don't like?

Maybe it's time to rest the relationship and take a stand rather than playing along and building resentment inside.

Many of the things you mention are just you trying to justify your decision, you've told them you can't make it and they have reacted poorly so use this as an opportunity to reset the relationship and keep things ata end length going forward. I wouldn't be friendly with people who think it's fine to call and shout at me at different times.

Is your DH insisting that you play nice and attend?

OhNameChangeyThingie · 12/09/2025 13:16

Chompingatthebeat · 12/09/2025 11:46

I think of it as an exciting oppotunity to visit somewhere new

That depends on the location though.

One overseas wedding I went to was full of Brits and restaurants catering to them. There was zero cultural experience and it was somewhere I’d never go to.

whynotwhatknot · 12/09/2025 13:12

your dh needs to stand up for you more-he doesnt even like his brother but wont do anything about it

they do sound ridiculous and ott but theyre not psychic they dont know why your going on this holiday

just pull out of it

Howmanycatsistoomany · 12/09/2025 13:11

have even told us that if we don’t stay the whole week for the wedding, then we shouldn’t go at all,

This is bonkers. And she expects you to use several days of annual leave to attend bridesmaid get togethers? Nah, I'd decline with the whole shebang.

PuggyPuggyPuggy · 12/09/2025 13:05

Ok I had another go at reading the whole thing. This stands out

Yes, it’s a selfish thing to have booked it knowing she had this bridesmaid evening booked, I’m not making out I’m a saint here

But you don't have to be a saint. Where did you get that idea? You just have to be a normal person, getting on with your life, and hopefully not causing harm to anyone else in the process. You don't have to be a slave to your SIL's every whim, acting as a bit-part player in the Great Story Of Her Life, just in the name of "not being selfish".

(And what is the difference between you and your SiL, that she is allowed to be selfish, but you are not?)

Nextdoormat · 12/09/2025 12:59

I don't think you being selfish going on holiday. The trying on of dresses is quite trivial. When my DD1 got married one BM lived away so couldn't try it on at all, it was fine. Ppl get too carried away, that doesn't mean you have to go along with it. I agree forget being a BM 9 is ridiculous anyway. Good luck with baby making💕 enjoy your holiday

PuggyPuggyPuggy · 12/09/2025 12:53

I read OP's first paragraph and thought "well, don't go then" 🤷
I don't understand why people run after such arseholes and make an effort to have them in their lives.

Tweedled · 12/09/2025 12:52

Disregarding everything else, after that horrible phone call I would not be going to the wedding or getting involved at all.
Your husband can make his own decision whether to let his family treat you like shit or to stick by his wife.

the7Vabo · 12/09/2025 12:42

Cinaferna · 12/09/2025 12:25

Surely it is genuinely out of most people's budget: £4k just to attend the wedding! That's before all the costs of stags and hen dos abroad, endless trips for bridesmaid fittings and the cost of a wedding present and wedding outfits. I would expect the whole lot to cost about £7k or £8k by the time they are through. That is an insane amount to spend just because a family member is getting married. And no one should expect others to spend this much unless they move in ultra rich circles. A wealthy friend of mind once said she and her husband dreaded wedding invites as last year they'd spent £12k on other people's weddings. I was so shocked. That was more than half my annual salary at the time. I'd have had to say no.

That’s absolutely fair enough. It is a huge amount of money.

I think the key is clear, polite communication. If you don’t want to spend a massive sum on a wedding just politely decline. Don’t agree to be BM.

WildLeader · 12/09/2025 12:33

What do you do? As a result of the call you back out of being a bridesmaid.

if you don’t want to go, let H go alone. Let them say whatever they want to say about you.

they’re going to ANYWAY

if you try to join in their game, pandering to them or path of least resistance, doesn’t matter, you’re going to lose whatever you do, so as others have said, take the hit, let the chips fall as they may and focus on your own relationship and family.

PeaceWhite · 12/09/2025 12:29

Fionasapples · 12/09/2025 12:23

I think you should say that you're no longer going to be her bridesmaid or go to the wedding as you can't manage the time and cost it will entail. If it turns the whole family against you, that sounds like a positive thing because they all sound horrible. Just walk away, don't be a doormat.

Agreed

Cinaferna · 12/09/2025 12:25

the7Vabo · 12/09/2025 11:03

If it’s genuinely out of your budget ok.

But if it’s actually that you don’t care about their wedding & you think it’s OTT remember that they did the “right thing” when it was your wedding.

SIL may not have asked you to be BM if you hadn’t asked her.

Within the extended family you had your wedding & were celebrated. It’s now their turn, don’t do anything to a take from it or overshadow it.

Surely it is genuinely out of most people's budget: £4k just to attend the wedding! That's before all the costs of stags and hen dos abroad, endless trips for bridesmaid fittings and the cost of a wedding present and wedding outfits. I would expect the whole lot to cost about £7k or £8k by the time they are through. That is an insane amount to spend just because a family member is getting married. And no one should expect others to spend this much unless they move in ultra rich circles. A wealthy friend of mind once said she and her husband dreaded wedding invites as last year they'd spent £12k on other people's weddings. I was so shocked. That was more than half my annual salary at the time. I'd have had to say no.

Fionasapples · 12/09/2025 12:23

I think you should say that you're no longer going to be her bridesmaid or go to the wedding as you can't manage the time and cost it will entail. If it turns the whole family against you, that sounds like a positive thing because they all sound horrible. Just walk away, don't be a doormat.

PeaceWhite · 12/09/2025 12:22

The way i understand it, is that the bridesmaids dress evening is just one of a number of gatherings the bride to be is expecting people to attend. Have I got that right @Thirls ?

Muffinmam · 12/09/2025 12:18

Just say you have a migraine condition and can’t commit.

CheeseWisely · 12/09/2025 12:17

Full disclosure, didn’t read the whole OP because I was already replying ‘just don’t go’ by the third paragraph.

Cinaferna · 12/09/2025 12:16

pikkumyy77 · 12/09/2025 11:48

But why doesn’t her DH do it—man to man to the groom. Sure it would be awkward but anything other than dh doing it just lets them continue to abuse OP. They gave to present a united front.

Yes, he could/should send the message or it could come from both of them.

Bigcat25 · 12/09/2025 12:16

I would tell them you're having fertility treatment on that day, or a medical procedure if you don't want to tell them the details. They can do with that info what they want.

the7Vabo · 12/09/2025 12:15

Strawbaler · 12/09/2025 12:05

STOP! Just STOP!

If these people are as awful as you say, then STOP trying to ‘do right’ by them - it will NEVER work out.

Focus on your own family, which you are trying so hard to conceive. Do what’s right for you. Go on your holiday.

Don’t be her bridesmaid. Say you’re ill if you have to, I mean… 1 of 9??? It’s almost ludicrous.

You will have to accept that they will try to paint you as ‘bad’, but I think that’s going to happen whatever you do?

You have to grown thicker skin now, people like this don’t change, and they’ll probably be divorcing soon anyway xxx

“Focus on your own family” - her husband’s brother is his family.

The OP is now at the next stage - babies, but when it was her turn she asked SIL to be BM & SIL obliged.

So if you want to get along with husband’s family don’t do stuff like say you’ll be BM and attend an event, and then book a holiday with not so much as an apology or polite explanation (which doesn’t have to be the truth).

RitaFires · 12/09/2025 12:14

The only way to win with those kinds of people is to not play. By booking a holiday during a time you already agreed to plans with SIL it looks like you are playing and trying to send passive aggressive messages about how you feel about her and her wedding.

I would not mention TTC to them at all, if they're as awful as you say it will get thrown in your face and only cause you more stress.

Decide with DH how you're going to approach his family and the wedding going forward and then just stick to that decision and you won't have to stress about it anymore.