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Am I being unreasonable placing time limits on upcoming night out?

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Givemeguidance · 12/09/2025 06:50

Husband and I have been very settled for several years as in a cosy home life. Suddenly since having our second child (2 under 2) he's had a resurgence of going out at night. He goes to play darts each week which must finish before pub kick out but he's been coming in several times very late in the early hours. We have a good sex life and I don't think infidelity - more that he gets carried away with the drink. But I am left feeling rubbish and I have expressed how this can't happen again. Now we have this weekend a family party I'll bring the children too but he's already made plans to go out with the cousins and brothers for a night on the town to the nightclubs after. It is his cousins 'special birthday' so it's being sold to me as something he has to do to- I feel his responsibilities are different he has babies the other males in the family don't- am I being unreasonable saying no to this continuation of the night? I know if I had childcare I'd be allowed to join them but it's not possible and the baby is small still feeding - it's the last thing I want to do anyway. I feel on a different page in life.
If it really was a one off I might feel ok but it's been after the repeated disrespect after darts.
Also in general do you think the weekly darts is making him crave a different lifestyle? Could it be the start of a drink problem?
To add context he is a model father otherwise, works hard, always house proud and getting on with tasks I haven't completed, takes us out all weekend.

OP posts:
tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/09/2025 11:10

deydododatdodontdeydo · 12/09/2025 10:49

Often I find that the stay-at-home partner does have the time/opportunity to do those things but doesn't want to, yet resents their partner for wanting to do those things.

That’s my experience too - mums don’t seem to want to go out but then moan because their partner doesn’t want to stay home with them.

rainbowstardrops · 12/09/2025 11:09

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 10:58

Not minding your partner having social life doesn’t make you a mug.
Just like Staying out until 3am doesn’t necessarily make you a bad person.

In most cases a grown up conversation is all that’s needed.

Well I agree with you that a grown up conversation needs to happen.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/09/2025 11:09

rainbowstardrops · 12/09/2025 10:44

No you’re right. It doesn’t make me a morally superior person. It makes me someone who isn’t a mug and a doormat tolerating the behaviour of someone that’s choosing to continue drinking until 3am, rather than supporting his wife who is juggling two very young children during the evening/night.
We’re all different though!

What are you on about? 🤣

People aren’t “mugs” just because they’re happy for their partners to have a regular social life 🙄

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 11:09

The nights out must be equal. When are you getting out to let your hair down?

You must ensure you go out and stay out as late as he does. If he doesn't mind then, all good. If he starts moaning, time for a chat.

RubySquid · 12/09/2025 11:08

RampantIvy · 12/09/2025 08:01

No she doesn't Hmm

He gets to behave like a single man and the OP has to be the dutiful wife and mother.

We got late nights out on the town out of our system before DC.

Wow I'm still prone to having late nights out and I'm in my 50s with grandchildren

RubySquid · 12/09/2025 10:58

Shellyash · 12/09/2025 07:33

I'm a bit undecided here, a game of darts and a few pints once every 3 or 4 weeks would be fair do's. A lads night out as a one off yes ok, but he needs to know that if he comes home slammed you will be utterly pissed off - and I mean really pissed off -with him. I think the repeat darts and home early hours is completely unreasonable to you and the children. He is the dad, he is responsible for these little ones. To me this needs nipping in the bud as it won't improve.

But darts teams play weekly. A player that rocks up only every few weeks isn't much good

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 10:58

rainbowstardrops · 12/09/2025 10:44

No you’re right. It doesn’t make me a morally superior person. It makes me someone who isn’t a mug and a doormat tolerating the behaviour of someone that’s choosing to continue drinking until 3am, rather than supporting his wife who is juggling two very young children during the evening/night.
We’re all different though!

Not minding your partner having social life doesn’t make you a mug.
Just like Staying out until 3am doesn’t necessarily make you a bad person.

In most cases a grown up conversation is all that’s needed.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 10:56

OnTheRoof · 12/09/2025 10:46

But you were replying to a post that didn't say going to the pub specifically was the problem, yet you replied as though it had. You don't get to exclude the most objectionable points to disagree with someone when that's not what they did.

I disagreed with the post. I don’t think there is any evidence that the OPs partner is prioritising going to the over his family. Or that he’s behaving like a single dick head in his twenties or having a mid life crisis.

He’s going out one night a week, and while there clearly needs to be a conversation about the impact of his hangover but it doesn’t sound like that’s happened yet? If he doesn’t respond well to a grown up conversation then my opinion of him might change, but as it stands it reads like he’s being a little thoughtless and might just need a nudge and a conversation with his wife.

You are, of course, free to completely disagree with me.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 12/09/2025 10:49

brunettemic · 12/09/2025 10:46

As long as you get time to do similar/go to a spa/abseiling/whatever you like to do I don’t see the issue.

Often I find that the stay-at-home partner does have the time/opportunity to do those things but doesn't want to, yet resents their partner for wanting to do those things.

OnTheRoof · 12/09/2025 10:46

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 10:38

I've said multiple times that the moodiness and the being crap the day after needs addressing.

But I stand by my views that one night out a week (even a late night) isn't inherently bad.

But you were replying to a post that didn't say going to the pub specifically was the problem, yet you replied as though it had. You don't get to exclude the most objectionable points to disagree with someone when that's not what they did.

brunettemic · 12/09/2025 10:46

As long as you get time to do similar/go to a spa/abseiling/whatever you like to do I don’t see the issue.

rainbowstardrops · 12/09/2025 10:44

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 10:14

I suspect you do… but spoiler alert, it doesn’t make you a morally superior person. You just want to live a different lifestyle and that’s okay.

No you’re right. It doesn’t make me a morally superior person. It makes me someone who isn’t a mug and a doormat tolerating the behaviour of someone that’s choosing to continue drinking until 3am, rather than supporting his wife who is juggling two very young children during the evening/night.
We’re all different though!

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 10:38

OnTheRoof · 12/09/2025 10:20

Weird the way you left out the bit about being moody and crap the next day after his 3ams, isn't it? The sort of thing you can indulge yourself with when you've no responsibilities but that does, actually, make you a dickhead when you've 2 under 2 and a partner who's tired from doing all the night feeds. That's showing he doesn't give a fuck on those days, thinks it's fine for his already tired partner to pick up his share and his loved ones to have to tolerate a day of moodiness, because of what he's chosen to prioritise.

Though I don't know that I'd necessarily describe it as a mid life crisis either. He could simply be a selfish twat.

I've said multiple times that the moodiness and the being crap the day after needs addressing.

But I stand by my views that one night out a week (even a late night) isn't inherently bad.

Daygloboo · 12/09/2025 10:21

Onthebusses · 12/09/2025 10:01

People change. And it's that fact that makes me wholeheartedly believe that long-term romantic connections are not natural. We try to force them and end up miserable. I could never live like this with another adult dictating what I do in any way. It makes me feel physically uncomfortable.

Ppl are different. Some.ppl.suit long term relationships, others dont. I know a couple who've been together 70 years and have a wonderful relationship.. I knkw others who after 10 years had totally drifted apart..

OnTheRoof · 12/09/2025 10:20

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 10:12

Going out one night a week is not prioritising the pub over your family.
Going to the pub once a week is not ‘acting like a single bloke dickhead in his twenties’
Going to the pub once a week is not a mid-life crisis.

Weird the way you left out the bit about being moody and crap the next day after his 3ams, isn't it? The sort of thing you can indulge yourself with when you've no responsibilities but that does, actually, make you a dickhead when you've 2 under 2 and a partner who's tired from doing all the night feeds. That's showing he doesn't give a fuck on those days, thinks it's fine for his already tired partner to pick up his share and his loved ones to have to tolerate a day of moodiness, because of what he's chosen to prioritise.

Though I don't know that I'd necessarily describe it as a mid life crisis either. He could simply be a selfish twat.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 10:14

rainbowstardrops · 12/09/2025 09:45

Of course you can still go out and have fun when you have children! But to roll in drunk at 3am every week when you have two very young children isn’t ok. At least not in my world.
Mind you, I read posts on MN and often wonder if I live in a completely different universe with different standards and morals 🤷🏻‍♀️

I suspect you do… but spoiler alert, it doesn’t make you a morally superior person. You just want to live a different lifestyle and that’s okay.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 10:12

Flakey99 · 12/09/2025 09:52

Early forties and still acting like a single bloke dickhead in his twenties??

Have you heard the term ‘mid-life crisis’?

I think you need to sit down together and discuss the future going forwards and what each of your expectations are.

I can’t stand men who prioritise going to the pub over spending time with their families. My dad did that and he was an alcoholic and a crap husband and father.

Is that what you want for your future?

Going out one night a week is not prioritising the pub over your family.
Going to the pub once a week is not ‘acting like a single bloke dickhead in his twenties’
Going to the pub once a week is not a mid-life crisis.

Arraminta · 12/09/2025 10:11

Yeah, this is a recipes for a marriage simmering with resentment and unhappiness.

There's absolutely no way I could ever have imposed a curfew on DH and frankly I wouldn't have respected him if I could. And I would have been livid if he tried it on me.

Coming in late after darts is nothing as presumably you're all asleep anyway? So coming home at 11.30 or 1.30am makes no odds. So long as he's holding his own the next day? Which you say he is.

The birthday clubbing with his cousin sounds like a nice thing to do on a special occasion to me? I assume you get some time to yourself doing what you fancy? And if you don't crave some Me Time because all you want is this Cosy Thing then that's your choice. Doesn't mean it's right for your DH.

Be very careful that you don't win the battle over this but end up losing the war.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 12/09/2025 10:09

TheSquashyHatofMrGnosspelius · 12/09/2025 09:05

You do sound a bit OTT OP but I was going to ask all these questions.

Where does he go after pub closing?

In your shoes I would be asking a totally different set of questions. The fact that it's so regular, it does sound like he is using sex workers or has an OW OM or something driving this regular behaviour that he apparently won't deviate from in his life.

It's not the fact he's doing it. I would want to know the who, what, how of it all.

Are the people he's allegedly with, steady people or the sort to stay up drinking and smoking weed? How likely is his story? Does he smell when he comes in? Does he have a second phone and two dozen other questions in that vein.

I would be in full on secret squirrel mode by this time.

Bloody hell, Evil Kneivel would be proud of those leaps.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/09/2025 10:07

rainbowstardrops · 12/09/2025 09:28

I certainly haven’t jumped to him having an affair!
More like where on earth is he until 3am and more importantly, why? He has two very young children at home that he’s leaving his wife to sort out alone. Every week.

You’re still allowed to stay out late when you have children - OP can always book in her own regular night out and leave him in charge too if she wants.

TheSquashyHatofMrGnosspelius · 12/09/2025 10:02

Flakey99 · 12/09/2025 09:52

Early forties and still acting like a single bloke dickhead in his twenties??

Have you heard the term ‘mid-life crisis’?

I think you need to sit down together and discuss the future going forwards and what each of your expectations are.

I can’t stand men who prioritise going to the pub over spending time with their families. My dad did that and he was an alcoholic and a crap husband and father.

Is that what you want for your future?

He's not though. He doesn't go out much at all. It's the peculiarity of his behaviour when he does go out that i would be questioning but if all he's doing is playing darts and going back to a mates for a few beers, he's not doing anything wrong and OP just needs to arrange for him to have the kids so she can do likewise so it's equitable.

Onthebusses · 12/09/2025 10:01

Givemeguidance · 12/09/2025 07:26

This is very helpful thank you. I do doubt my judgment and what's reasonable.

I will separate the two things - the night on the town for the cousins and the regular darts night.

I don't want to be controlling. I felt an evening to pub closure hobby was ok....
But I also don't want to not speak out and problems grow.

The disrespect phrase was because the times coming home have been 3am without communication. When I've been doing the bedtimes and still waking up all through to attend to the baby. After those occasions he hasn't pulled his weight at home the next day and has been moody. But all the other days of the week he has been equal.

I don't have an equal social life but I do occasionally see friends for a couple of hours.

Also I have been told that some of them use recreational drugs. My fear is what if he did and lied about it...

I just can't understand how the man that liked early starts hiking and nights in has so quickly flipped the other way. I'm sure he was into the lads nights when he was younger but we are in our early 40s now.

People change. And it's that fact that makes me wholeheartedly believe that long-term romantic connections are not natural. We try to force them and end up miserable. I could never live like this with another adult dictating what I do in any way. It makes me feel physically uncomfortable.

noidea69 · 12/09/2025 09:59

Going out for a cousins birthday is fine.

Going to play darts once a week is fine.

Coming home weekly at 3am is a proper pisstake.

Daygloboo · 12/09/2025 09:58

Flakey99 · 12/09/2025 09:52

Early forties and still acting like a single bloke dickhead in his twenties??

Have you heard the term ‘mid-life crisis’?

I think you need to sit down together and discuss the future going forwards and what each of your expectations are.

I can’t stand men who prioritise going to the pub over spending time with their families. My dad did that and he was an alcoholic and a crap husband and father.

Is that what you want for your future?

If its excessive, I agree with you. But if its just a night out..... Ppl need to let off a bit of steam . Relationships where people are stuck together all the time usually end badly...partucularly if one person insists the other stays home all the time. .

zaazaazoom · 12/09/2025 09:55

RampantIvy · 12/09/2025 08:01

No she doesn't Hmm

He gets to behave like a single man and the OP has to be the dutiful wife and mother.

We got late nights out on the town out of our system before DC.

I love having loads of nights out. I had three under four, so obviously then they weren'crazy and I had to watch it with the drink as I was breastfeeding. Now they are all teenagers.I go out at least twice a week at least twice a week sometimes with dh, sometimes with the kids, sometimes with friends.

Dh used to put the kids to bed by himself, or I would put the kids to bed by ourselves or we would get a friend over to do a babysitting swap.

There are some people I know who never went out. And now their kids have grown, and they have very small, boring lives.

I cant imagine living like that. That's fine for some people, if that's what they want but it would drive me insane.