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Am I being unreasonable placing time limits on upcoming night out?

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Givemeguidance · 12/09/2025 06:50

Husband and I have been very settled for several years as in a cosy home life. Suddenly since having our second child (2 under 2) he's had a resurgence of going out at night. He goes to play darts each week which must finish before pub kick out but he's been coming in several times very late in the early hours. We have a good sex life and I don't think infidelity - more that he gets carried away with the drink. But I am left feeling rubbish and I have expressed how this can't happen again. Now we have this weekend a family party I'll bring the children too but he's already made plans to go out with the cousins and brothers for a night on the town to the nightclubs after. It is his cousins 'special birthday' so it's being sold to me as something he has to do to- I feel his responsibilities are different he has babies the other males in the family don't- am I being unreasonable saying no to this continuation of the night? I know if I had childcare I'd be allowed to join them but it's not possible and the baby is small still feeding - it's the last thing I want to do anyway. I feel on a different page in life.
If it really was a one off I might feel ok but it's been after the repeated disrespect after darts.
Also in general do you think the weekly darts is making him crave a different lifestyle? Could it be the start of a drink problem?
To add context he is a model father otherwise, works hard, always house proud and getting on with tasks I haven't completed, takes us out all weekend.

OP posts:
HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 12:36

Didimum · 12/09/2025 12:31

Your standards are on the floor if you think it's OK for a father of young kids to binge drink every week.

Don’t be ridiculous.
I go out once a week with my friends (sometimes twice if there’s a special occasion) and we have been known to drink a fair bit of wine.
Are you suggesting my DH’s standards are ‘through the floor?

Didimum · 12/09/2025 12:31

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/09/2025 12:16

There’s absolutely nothing disrespectful about it as long as it’s agreed in advance.

Your standards are on the floor if you think it's OK for a father of young kids to binge drink every week.

MrsJeanLuc · 12/09/2025 12:31

noidea69 · 12/09/2025 09:59

Going out for a cousins birthday is fine.

Going to play darts once a week is fine.

Coming home weekly at 3am is a proper pisstake.

This is the nub of the problem, isn't it. Coming home at 3am, possibly waking op/baby, and hungover and useless the next day - you don't want to be dealing with that once a week.

Also if his mates are smoking these "recreational drugs" then he will be getting a dose too from passive smoking.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/09/2025 12:31

pikkumyy77 · 12/09/2025 12:20

Sure you can. The children do. Why us she the default parent?

She’s not the default parent 🙄 he’s out one night a week and home the other six.

Theres nothing stopping her from going out herself and there’s also no reason to be home at a set time just because you have children.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/09/2025 12:26

MightyGoldBear · 12/09/2025 11:32

Maybe for some this could be true but for some if they are the default parent they are usually too knackered to go out. Their life has usually changed beyond recognition. Alcohol and a hangover is the last thing they want if they are utterly exhausted and sleep deprived. The idea of going out or hobbies can be such a gear change the extra energy and stress that can cause just doesn't seem worth it. Far easier for men to continue this once a baby has arrived less has changed for them.

Then the issue there is that you have a shit partner who isn’t taking on their share of parenting and drudgery.

However I see way too many threads on here from
women who blatantly don’t trust their partners to parent or who do housework and then wonder why they end up burnt out and frustrated.

pikkumyy77 · 12/09/2025 12:23

Oh, also: 💯 percent doing coke.

pikkumyy77 · 12/09/2025 12:20

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/09/2025 06:59

You can’t give a grown adult a curfew.

Sure you can. The children do. Why us she the default parent?

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/09/2025 12:20

whoamI00 · 12/09/2025 12:01

This isn’t about control. It’s about unfairness. He can choose what he wants to do. The tasks associated with being a good father are also what he chooses to do. Meanwhile, women are expected to compromise. It’s unfair that women are held to a higher standard of understanding. He has the freedom to go out and come home late at night, but women don’t have the same level of freedom. That’s unfair. When women finally speak up about this, it’s labeled as controlling.

They do have the same level of freedom it’s just that too many of them don’t use it, then complain that they’re exhausted or burnt out or lonely.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/09/2025 12:16

Didimum · 12/09/2025 12:07

Getting drunk til the early hours every week when you have two young kids at home.

What ISN'T disrespectful about that?

There’s absolutely nothing disrespectful about it as long as it’s agreed in advance.

Didimum · 12/09/2025 12:07

BitOutOfPractice · 12/09/2025 07:02

Why exactly is it “disrespectful” to go out one night a week?

I keep seeing this word used on mn lately to mean “doing something I personally don’t like”.

Edited

Getting drunk til the early hours every week when you have two young kids at home.

What ISN'T disrespectful about that?

whoamI00 · 12/09/2025 12:06

I'm not saying he's bad. I just don't agree with OP's complaint being labeled as controlling.

Mugfills · 12/09/2025 12:02

whoamI00 · 12/09/2025 12:01

This isn’t about control. It’s about unfairness. He can choose what he wants to do. The tasks associated with being a good father are also what he chooses to do. Meanwhile, women are expected to compromise. It’s unfair that women are held to a higher standard of understanding. He has the freedom to go out and come home late at night, but women don’t have the same level of freedom. That’s unfair. When women finally speak up about this, it’s labeled as controlling.

He's out one night a week. OP can choose to do as she pleases any other night.

whoamI00 · 12/09/2025 12:01

This isn’t about control. It’s about unfairness. He can choose what he wants to do. The tasks associated with being a good father are also what he chooses to do. Meanwhile, women are expected to compromise. It’s unfair that women are held to a higher standard of understanding. He has the freedom to go out and come home late at night, but women don’t have the same level of freedom. That’s unfair. When women finally speak up about this, it’s labeled as controlling.

Northquit · 12/09/2025 11:55

Get a babysitter and go with him.

Swiftie1878 · 12/09/2025 11:51

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 08:53

The pub? Some stay open late - a fact many people seem to be ignoring in the hope they can catch him having an affair 🙄

😂 you’re right. I live in the sticks. Pubs close at closing time!

Gwenhwyfar · 12/09/2025 11:50

Once I was over 40 I couldn't find any friends that would stay out past midnight with me. Are his friends younger?

Sunnyscribe · 12/09/2025 11:42

I think once a week is a bit frequent considering your circumstances, especially because if he's drinking he'll be hungover a half useless the next day. Do you feel you need his help when he's gone or can you manage? I wouldn't mind him going if it wasn't putting an unreasonable burden on me but I do think when you have 2 under 2 it's pretty intense and you have to make sacrifices.

Maybe ask him to take the children once a week so you can have some time to do something you enjoy to make it fair. He might reconsider how frequently he goes out when he's having to repay the favour!

Chompingatthebeat · 12/09/2025 11:40

Its very important for fathers of very young children to get rat arsed on a regular basis, don't you know - weirdly society doesn't feel quite the same about mothers

MadisonMarieParksValetta · 12/09/2025 11:39

Being blunt here but I reckon he's 100% taking coke.

brunettemic · 12/09/2025 11:38

deydododatdodontdeydo · 12/09/2025 10:49

Often I find that the stay-at-home partner does have the time/opportunity to do those things but doesn't want to, yet resents their partner for wanting to do those things.

Interesting! Other than mat leave neither of us have been at home long term. If one person doesn't want to do things that shouldn’t stop the other one doing them (within reason).

MightyGoldBear · 12/09/2025 11:32

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 12/09/2025 11:10

That’s my experience too - mums don’t seem to want to go out but then moan because their partner doesn’t want to stay home with them.

Maybe for some this could be true but for some if they are the default parent they are usually too knackered to go out. Their life has usually changed beyond recognition. Alcohol and a hangover is the last thing they want if they are utterly exhausted and sleep deprived. The idea of going out or hobbies can be such a gear change the extra energy and stress that can cause just doesn't seem worth it. Far easier for men to continue this once a baby has arrived less has changed for them.

Onthebusses · 12/09/2025 11:32

Daygloboo · 12/09/2025 10:21

Ppl are different. Some.ppl.suit long term relationships, others dont. I know a couple who've been together 70 years and have a wonderful relationship.. I knkw others who after 10 years had totally drifted apart..

I know it's possible. I do not think it's as normal as we are led to believe on the whole. I think it's more common that people grow apart. It's rare that people will grow together in such a similar direction that they remain happy in a romantic partnership.

I'm not saying it's not possible.

But OP is asking how can this man have such different interests now. Well that's why, and I think people need to be allowed to grow apart without it feeling like a failure. It's not a failure. You just need to rejig things sometimes.

OnTheRoof · 12/09/2025 11:31

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 12/09/2025 10:56

I disagreed with the post. I don’t think there is any evidence that the OPs partner is prioritising going to the over his family. Or that he’s behaving like a single dick head in his twenties or having a mid life crisis.

He’s going out one night a week, and while there clearly needs to be a conversation about the impact of his hangover but it doesn’t sound like that’s happened yet? If he doesn’t respond well to a grown up conversation then my opinion of him might change, but as it stands it reads like he’s being a little thoughtless and might just need a nudge and a conversation with his wife.

You are, of course, free to completely disagree with me.

There is. He's literally prioritising going out over being fit to do what needs to be done and not be nasty or useless the next day. There are some things that might be a matter of opinion in this scenario, but that isn't one of them. He wouldn't be like this if he weren't going out, since we know he's fine the rest of the time, and he's making the decision that the going out comes first despite it making at least one person around him suffer the next day.

It might, depending on specifics, be possible to construct a very different going out scenario where he wasn't doing those things, but this is not it.

indoorplantqueen · 12/09/2025 11:22

Going out once a week to play a hobby- fine. Coming home at 3am every week is not.

going out as a one off to celebrate a relatives wedding- fine.

BrainlessBoiledFrog · 12/09/2025 11:22

The thing is though with very young children and bedtime routines it’s not possible for both people to constantly be going out.

Assuming the DP works full time he is likely out the house all week and just has evenings at home and weekends. On work nights around young children it can be very hard to get quality time. If then on the Friday night DP stays out till 3am and gets up grumpy at 11am Saturday were is the quality time? So then OP says I will go out Saturday night till 3am and get up 11am Sunday and be grumpy. How does this solve it?
It’s not really a relationship then is it. It’s 2 people leading separate social lives, co-parenting mostly separately and having sex sometimes… This is why is rarely works when people say well I will just start going out tit for tat. Personally OP I would do it once just to see how he reacts as I imagine he would not be pleased at all.

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