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Am I being unreasonable placing time limits on upcoming night out?

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Givemeguidance · 12/09/2025 06:50

Husband and I have been very settled for several years as in a cosy home life. Suddenly since having our second child (2 under 2) he's had a resurgence of going out at night. He goes to play darts each week which must finish before pub kick out but he's been coming in several times very late in the early hours. We have a good sex life and I don't think infidelity - more that he gets carried away with the drink. But I am left feeling rubbish and I have expressed how this can't happen again. Now we have this weekend a family party I'll bring the children too but he's already made plans to go out with the cousins and brothers for a night on the town to the nightclubs after. It is his cousins 'special birthday' so it's being sold to me as something he has to do to- I feel his responsibilities are different he has babies the other males in the family don't- am I being unreasonable saying no to this continuation of the night? I know if I had childcare I'd be allowed to join them but it's not possible and the baby is small still feeding - it's the last thing I want to do anyway. I feel on a different page in life.
If it really was a one off I might feel ok but it's been after the repeated disrespect after darts.
Also in general do you think the weekly darts is making him crave a different lifestyle? Could it be the start of a drink problem?
To add context he is a model father otherwise, works hard, always house proud and getting on with tasks I haven't completed, takes us out all weekend.

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mummybearSW19 · 11/12/2025 01:13

Don’t try to navigate this alone OP. Strongly recommend couples counselling. And he probably needs to consider 1:1 counselling.

it’s a strange reaction to having kids. Going out all night and getting coked up!!!

callwaiting2020 · 10/12/2025 20:48

Just read your updates. You have a massive problem. Sounds like he is barely hanging on to his family life while he parties as hard as he can get away with and the fact that sex was different is odd - learned something new from someone else? Coked up?

Couples counselling. Right now. And if you realise he's already cheated on you, ditch him of course.

callwaiting2020 · 10/12/2025 20:44

Belladog1 · 12/09/2025 06:54

I have nothing against going out and having fun, but things should change when kids coming along. Why should you have to sit at home like the dutiful wifey while he goes out like a singleton?

I'm also totally turned off by 'a lad'. Propping up bars until closing time, going clubbing. It's a hard no.

First post nails it.

readingmakesmehappy · 10/12/2025 20:43

YANBU. It’s very disrespectful to you as presumably he can’t pull his parenting weight after he’s been out like that. One night outa week playing darts is fine - as long as you have an evening when you get to do your thing. Or if you don’t fancy nights out then you get an afternoon to yourself. There has to be parity.

Roobarbtwo · 10/12/2025 20:35

Givemeguidance · 09/12/2025 09:39

I just thought I would update you in case anyone has a similar experience and is struggling to interpret the situation they find themselves in. It was substance abuse and he opened up about it. He's stopped the hobby where this was mostly occurring and is trying to go back to the things that used to make him happy. It has been far from easy but I'm feeling much better, more supported with the baby and like we have a connection again. I haven't probed too much why this dependency came about as I'm just so incredibly grateful for the change back to the old him.

I personally think you have every right to probe given the way he was treating you - and I'm still concerned about some of the things you posted earlier on in the thread - such as coming home and demanding rough sex - it's really not good enough. Huge red flag in my view

Mum4MrA · 10/12/2025 18:54

Hope he can manage to stay away from the drugs. Well done to you for speaking to him about it and having firm boundaries. Good luck.

Onceisenoughta · 09/12/2025 14:49

Good for you, hope things turn around xx

pikkumyy77 · 09/12/2025 12:35

Take care of yourself and your children, OP. I hope he gets help.

Givemeguidance · 09/12/2025 09:39

I just thought I would update you in case anyone has a similar experience and is struggling to interpret the situation they find themselves in. It was substance abuse and he opened up about it. He's stopped the hobby where this was mostly occurring and is trying to go back to the things that used to make him happy. It has been far from easy but I'm feeling much better, more supported with the baby and like we have a connection again. I haven't probed too much why this dependency came about as I'm just so incredibly grateful for the change back to the old him.

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RampantIvy · 16/09/2025 14:33

IsSheOkayOrWhat · 16/09/2025 14:21

Unfortunately I don’t have time to sit and read all the comments, but this is not ok. He needs to grow up or I’d be getting rid.

If you select See all on the OP's first post it will just bring up only her posts.

IsSheOkayOrWhat · 16/09/2025 14:21

RampantIvy · 13/09/2025 09:32

So the exact things I'm noticing....slurred talking, stumbling, sniffing repeatedly, seems more intense, wants to engage in conversation, wants sex but more roughly - hasn't forced it but it's feels a bit different.

I really think that posters need to read the OP’s updates before posting. These aren’t “innocent” darts nights.

@IsSheOkayOrWhat @Deboragh @LadeeLove @Minnie798 He goes to friends’ houses after the pub closes to drown their sorrows. Claims that they do coke and he doesn’t and rolls in at 3 am then demands rough sex..

Unfortunately I don’t have time to sit and read all the comments, but this is not ok. He needs to grow up or I’d be getting rid.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 15/09/2025 10:48

RampantIvy · 15/09/2025 08:31

And the local drug dealer?
Did you read the OP's updates?

I wasn't replying to the OP. I was responding to a specific poster who said that going out to the pub regularly wasn't a normal thing to do. So cool your jets before coming at me!

I have seen the OPs updates and made it clear that I don't think his behaviour is acceptable. However I stand by my point that going to the pub in itself isn't problematic. His behaviour is the issue here and most of us manage a weekly trip to the pub without behaving the way he does.

RampantIvy · 15/09/2025 08:31

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 15/09/2025 07:28

It’s very much the norm in my circle of friends.
We make a huge effort to support our local pubs.

And the local drug dealer?
Did you read the OP's updates?

HeartbrokenCatMum · 15/09/2025 07:34

I’m all about living life and having some escapism from a hard week, but there is a time and a place. You have two under two, and weekly 3am nights out just aren’t on. This is a hard time, it needs to be teamwork and all hands on deck. A good balance at this stage in life would be him going to his hobby still, and having a drunken blowout every few months.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 15/09/2025 07:28

Crazyworldmum · 14/09/2025 16:26

Personally I don’t think going out regularly to the pub is the norm and I would o see this as a massive issue . Occasionally going yes but it seems it’s fairly regular .

It’s very much the norm in my circle of friends.
We make a huge effort to support our local pubs.

Kreepture · 14/09/2025 20:39

Crazyworldmum · 14/09/2025 16:26

Personally I don’t think going out regularly to the pub is the norm and I would o see this as a massive issue . Occasionally going yes but it seems it’s fairly regular .

was very much the norm in the family i grew up in. Dad went out every Tuesday (masons) and every Friday (working mens club) (and we all went out on a Sunday morning pre-lunch too) difference is, my Dad used to come home by 11pm every time, and only ever had 2 or 3 pints.

I don't feel the OP has an issue him going once a week to play darts.. its what goes on AFTER the darts match that keeps him out til 3am that she has a problem with.

Crazyworldmum · 14/09/2025 16:26

Personally I don’t think going out regularly to the pub is the norm and I would o see this as a massive issue . Occasionally going yes but it seems it’s fairly regular .

Whatafliberty · 14/09/2025 14:15

So you just don't stay married to them.

JEM61 · 13/09/2025 23:25

Touchwood2654 · 13/09/2025 22:54

He is definitely doing coke.
Be careful of being coerced into 'adventurous sex' that you might not really be comfortable with. Who are these new 'friends'. Sounds like a crowd that are not his usual type.
I would advise dealing with this head on. Getting in after midnight without even a text to say what his ETA is is very disrespectful. There may be trouble ahead OP.

This.

Not often this happens but I can’t stop worrying about the OP and coercion hits the nail on the head why this has all made me feel very uneasy.

OP, please speak to friends and family - or someone you trust about this and please don’t listen to those excusing is behaviour in this thread. You are not being unreasonable. Look after yourself and your babies x

Touchwood2654 · 13/09/2025 22:54

Givemeguidance · 12/09/2025 13:29

Thank you 🙏

I could be the problem here with all my sleepless nights and racing thoughts but this is very good advice and I will do. It's actually not untrue that the babies sleep has got worse.

I have also thought that I should arrange a night out together on the town to see if the behaviour is similar when we are only drinking. I know it sounds ridiculous but I can't tell if he's not just really drunk. When he gets in he's heightened, sniffling, slurring, wanting much more adventurous sex, then so sullen afterwards. But we never used to drink heavily together out and about.

He is definitely doing coke.
Be careful of being coerced into 'adventurous sex' that you might not really be comfortable with. Who are these new 'friends'. Sounds like a crowd that are not his usual type.
I would advise dealing with this head on. Getting in after midnight without even a text to say what his ETA is is very disrespectful. There may be trouble ahead OP.

LuluBell85 · 13/09/2025 22:43

At the end of the day OP, you have to decide where to draw the line and raise the subject with DP. If you aren't willing to accept your DP staying out until 3am once a week, then you are entitled to feel like that. Please don't let posters above, who maybe can't fully appreciate your perspective, sway you in this. You have to do what is right for you and your DC. Of course we can't stop living our lives with DC, but we sometimes have to accept adjustments until DC are older.

Bluedenimdoglover · 13/09/2025 20:16

If you think he's developing a drink problem, it's likely that he is. I was married to a man like that. It started gradually, drinks after work, then late home, then 10 years of heavier drinking until I realised I was worth more than that. Good luck

JollyTeaScroller · 13/09/2025 17:56

I am extremely extremely sorry to read this post, and i can imagine how horrible you are feeling, with two young babies at home and wanting the home to be a safe nurturing sanctuary and him having some sort of mid life existential crisis where he gets to be free and irresponsible again, so immature and pathetic, but maybe it's a way (if we are to have compassion for him) that he deals with the increased responsibilities of being a father etc. But there is absolutely no excuse and you need support, from your mum or your siblings or your cousin or a professional. And he likely needs support too, so maybe therapy for him and perhaps couples counselling for you both. It would be a shame for you to break up over this and perhaps you can survive it but he needs to be honest with you, about what the hell is happening and not just the drugs and the drink but also what is motivating this change in behaviour, is he struggling with the responsibilities, would there be more healthy ways of letting off steam? I am so so sorry and feel so annoyed at him.

mindutopia · 13/09/2025 17:50

Nothing wrong with going out, but it shouldn’t be prioritised in such a way that it impacts on family life. Weekly staying out til 1am, 3am (early morning hours) is a no go once you have kids. A special occasion, yes, totally to be expected, like the birthday party.

But no one can be a decent parent when they are out drinking til 2am or whatever the night before. It means either getting up still drunk on 4 hours sleep with small children. Or writing off the next day having a lie in and being hungover. Neither is acceptable every week. If you did the same the other night of the weekend, your kids would never get a day with both their parents functioning and not hungover. That’s not okay.

With Dh and I, going out is fine as long as it doesn’t majorly impact on the other in terms of childcare or work. If you go out though, you’re still fully engaged in family life, so there is no lying around in bed all day. We’re up and parenting, late night or not. Obviously sleeping til a normal hour like 8am is fine, sleeping til noon every weekend like you’re 22 is not.

And we don’t disturb each other’s sleep. if Dh is going out, he stays out. He stays with a friend, sometimes they all go camping for the night and have a campfire and some drinks, or they go into a big city and stay over in a hotel. Nothing wild, they go to the pub, get some Five Guys and crash out at a Travelodge and then all go home in the morning after a cooked breakfast. It means that whoever is left with the parenting and the early wake up with the kids is not also being woken up by someone crashing in drunk at 3am. That means it’s all really respectful and also fair. No one is lumped with all the parenting all the time because the other is recovering. In fact, dh more often than not takes them out for the day if he’s been out the night before so that I get a break.

The difference is all the above is respectful and this doesn’t sound respectful at all, late nights or not.

Beentheretoolong · 13/09/2025 17:44

sittingonabeach · 13/09/2025 17:30

Surely when a thread gets to many pages you at least check whether OP has responded and added further details

You’d think that would be the obvious thing to do wouldn’t you? 🙄

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