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Differences (rep Ireland) Irish V UK

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Sillysandy · 11/09/2025 14:16

I am Irish living in Ireland. My DH is British, he is an immigrant who grew up in London but had lived for 20 years in Ireland when I met him.

I discovered mumsnet about 8 years ago when I took on a sort of stepmum role and was flabbergasted at some of the stories, attitudes and opinions.

I still found the site extremely helpful, often giving me clarity on situations which would cause me a lot of angst.

However when I talk to friends and family members living in the UK I realise that a lot is to do with cultural differences.

It's amazing given how close geographically we are.

Attitudes to money, marriage, divorce, wedding gifts, abortion, house purchases, communication with friends are so far from anything I've seen in my circles.

To give my pov; (these are all generalisations) we get married later, we stay married, we don't consider abortion unless it's very particular circumstances, we are indirect about money "I'll get this one, you can get the next one (but it is LAW you only accept if you are buying back)" and sending bank details for a small amount would be horrifyingly rude, you only attend a wedding with a card containing at least 100 euro pp, you usually get married in your mid thirties, your kids are mainly all with the one father, we hide behind humour until we know a person very well, we don't report benefit fraud, we laugh a lot more... That's just off the top of my head.

The other thing is that most Irish people know all about English Irish historical tensions but many English people are utterly oblivious.

YABU You're talking out of your ass
YANBU The differences are enormous

I'd love to hear some thoughts on this. In my line of work now I do a weekly call with my UK based team and I always notice subtle differences in attitude.

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Lottapianos · 18/09/2025 09:37

'Another current difference - The Ploughing being celebrated across the land by media outlets as if it's Glastonbury'

Sorry for being thick, but does that mean the start of the ploughing season on farms? Being reported on national media?!

I'm Irish but haven't lived there for 25 years so clearly well out of the loop 😁

Sillysandy · 18/09/2025 08:48

Member984815 · 18/09/2025 08:37

Or when a small amount of money in card " they broke their heart there" . We got mostly cash for our wedding 20 years ago , people always say if you are living together you already have the appliances and money is always needed. I got a couple of lovely presents from people that I use to this day and they are just as welcome .

Ah that's nice. What are the presents?

My DH was married to a different Irish woman before me, I think 25 years ago. They got a lot of very nice crystal glasses. I know as I'm often drinking out of his half of them.

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Member984815 · 18/09/2025 08:37

Sillysandy · 17/09/2025 13:52

I was making a different point; that as Irish people we are not good at being DIRECT. So an English person who thinks these differences don't exist could definitely be unaware of them.

For example;

"Thanks for coming" while muttering "handed me over an empty card"

In the pp's case she is travelling for a wedding, if the bride attended her wedding she would not be expecting a 100 cash gift.... Like the rounds at the bar it all evens out. She's fine.

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Or when a small amount of money in card " they broke their heart there" . We got mostly cash for our wedding 20 years ago , people always say if you are living together you already have the appliances and money is always needed. I got a couple of lovely presents from people that I use to this day and they are just as welcome .

LoyalMember · 17/09/2025 21:35

Scots guy here, and I've been appalled through the years at how tight English folk are. These would be guys we've bumped into on holiday in boozers in Spain, Greece, etc. Happy to take drinks, and be included in rounds, but strangely reluctant, or forgetful, to get any back. I've watched English guys, who we've bought drinks for in our round, go up and buy drinks for themselves and miss us out.

eggandonion · 17/09/2025 21:10

The Eddie Hobbs pay for your wedding show was 2006. Its all his fault.

eggandonion · 17/09/2025 21:07

I can't get over the young scientist competition won't be sponsored by BT.

Sillysandy · 17/09/2025 20:08

I like watching TV shows when there is an English version then an irish version. Someone up thread mentioned Traitors but I haven't seen it.

I was addicted to First Dates.

First Dates UK, I was struck by how open people were about what they were looking for, their previous romantic experiences, their expectations. They were clear on what they were looking for. The Irish; much more laughing and talking around topics. I was dating a lot at the time and I found I had no issue finding men for fun and flirting but progressing things along with anyone suitable seemed impossible. Then I met British DH... all straightforward.

The other show was Come Dine With Me. I found the Irish contestants less cutting and competitive with each other, less of the 'I came to win' attitude (at least openly). Friendships seemed to form more readily.

Irish men are more relationship resistant perhaps? We do tend to collect giant groups of friends, it peaks in size in early 30s imo. Is this similar in the UK?

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PaxAeterna · 17/09/2025 20:04

@ComemosZanahorias no it’s the display of generosity that’s important. You were both generous and thoughtful!

It must be something else.

Scentofgeranium · 17/09/2025 19:59

ComemosZanahorias · 17/09/2025 19:36

This is such a great discussion (even the arsey bits). As an NI person who has moved home after 30 years away in the UK and USA, there is a lot that rings true (superficial hyper friendliness, fast funerals, no divorces, creepy priests, abortions in the UK) but equally loads that is news to me! My oldest brother got married to a SoCo Dubliner, I was boggled at the show at the wedding, just seemed so OTT. And no wonder she barely speaks to me, I didn’t give them money, I paid for them to go away for a chef’s table meal and a night in a posh hotel! I had no idea until now (15 years later) that I had done something wrong!

That was a lovely gift!
It does seem to be mostly cash now but I went to a good few weddings 15 - 20 years ago and there were a lot of gift lists then. And not as many gave cash even if there was no list. I got pots and pans, towels, lamps, crystal at my own wedding in the noughties, though the majority did give money as a present.

Sillysandy · 17/09/2025 19:55

ComemosZanahorias · 17/09/2025 19:36

This is such a great discussion (even the arsey bits). As an NI person who has moved home after 30 years away in the UK and USA, there is a lot that rings true (superficial hyper friendliness, fast funerals, no divorces, creepy priests, abortions in the UK) but equally loads that is news to me! My oldest brother got married to a SoCo Dubliner, I was boggled at the show at the wedding, just seemed so OTT. And no wonder she barely speaks to me, I didn’t give them money, I paid for them to go away for a chef’s table meal and a night in a posh hotel! I had no idea until now (15 years later) that I had done something wrong!

You definitely have not offended them with that very generous wedding present.

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TheLongRider · 17/09/2025 19:49

Another current difference - The Ploughing being celebrated across the land by media outlets as if it's Glastonbury. RTÉ has decamped to Skreggan along with half the country.

I heard Pat Shortt being interviewed yesterday morning describing some people as even more rural than him "Sure them lads were bucket fed from birth!".

ComemosZanahorias · 17/09/2025 19:36

This is such a great discussion (even the arsey bits). As an NI person who has moved home after 30 years away in the UK and USA, there is a lot that rings true (superficial hyper friendliness, fast funerals, no divorces, creepy priests, abortions in the UK) but equally loads that is news to me! My oldest brother got married to a SoCo Dubliner, I was boggled at the show at the wedding, just seemed so OTT. And no wonder she barely speaks to me, I didn’t give them money, I paid for them to go away for a chef’s table meal and a night in a posh hotel! I had no idea until now (15 years later) that I had done something wrong!

KoalaKoKo · 17/09/2025 19:27

Haha my dad grew up on a dairy farm and I am pretty sure he lost his front door key years ago, I haven’t seen it opened in at least a decade. We either go in the backdoor or a patio door. Nothing is ever locked!

Scentofgeranium · 17/09/2025 19:17

Sillysandy · 17/09/2025 19:03

The back door is definitely for the farms. My rellies are farmers, we all learned how to milk the cows by hand, turn the turf etc.

Mine are too, but I never learned milking by hand, though my mother who grew up on one in the 40s/50s did of course. Grandparents did mostly use their back door when I visited as a child, but when I visit other farmers now (including relatives, close friends) I’d go in the front door. They’d use the back door themselves going out to the yard in the wellies though. I’m sure it varies, that’s just my own experience.

Sillysandy · 17/09/2025 19:03

Scentofgeranium · 17/09/2025 18:31

I’m in the country and we all use front doors here. Main meal in the evening as people working/at school all day. May be different if you’re farming I suppose, though the ones I know all have partners who work full time. I’ve never cut turf. The salute is a thing for sure, but only on smaller roads. It doesn’t matter if you know the person.

The back door is definitely for the farms. My rellies are farmers, we all learned how to milk the cows by hand, turn the turf etc.

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TheLongRider · 17/09/2025 19:02

The salute is definitely a rural road thing. You greet everyone in case you cause offense by ignoring a neighbour. There are different versions, one finger, two fingers, a whole wave, the culchie head nod. The last one is hard to describe unless you've seen it in action, kind of a twist down to one side.

GentlemenPreferBuzzcuts · 17/09/2025 18:52

Scentofgeranium · 17/09/2025 15:22

Yes, it’s more accessible in Ireland though, because it’s a good deal cheaper. So it’s interesting that the figures are still about the same.

I think partly it’s about social class being less stratified — no one sends their child to private school in Ireland under the impression it’s going to magically elevate them, or give them this elusive confidence or ‘polish’ that gets wistfully talked about on Mn threads about private schools. Plus, I honestly think the education on offer is much of a muchness, in that most schools here offer a decent education. I have godsons at Glenstal and St Killian’s, and friends’ children I know well at St Columba’s, and the children are as ordinary as at DS’s secondary.

Scentofgeranium · 17/09/2025 18:31

I’m in the country and we all use front doors here. Main meal in the evening as people working/at school all day. May be different if you’re farming I suppose, though the ones I know all have partners who work full time. I’ve never cut turf. The salute is a thing for sure, but only on smaller roads. It doesn’t matter if you know the person.

Sillysandy · 17/09/2025 18:25

TheLongRider · 17/09/2025 18:20

Anyways - back to more differences even between boggers/ culchies and jackeens.

  • Dinner in the middle of the day
  • The back door as the main entry point and the front door only for the priest/guards/coffin
  • The holy communion as the dress rehearsal for the wedding, large cash amounts included.
  • Following on from the communion, the perception that someone is tight with money if they are said to be still living off their communion money.
  • Being able to mind a gap, stack a load of turf and complain about going to the bog on a sunny day
  • the two fingered greeting from the steering wheel as you pass a neighbour in the car

Hahahaha,

I'm actually living in north county Dublin now and I had to get used to the car finger stuff. On the southside they never acknowledge you.

I don't think I've ever walked in my country relatives front door. No door is ever locked.

Communion money is a minefield! We weren't allowed to be paraded up and down the street as it was chavvy (can't remember what word was used in the 80s). But all my classmates cleaned up. There's different levels of hierarchy payment for that too; family, godchild, friends child etc.

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TheLongRider · 17/09/2025 18:20

Anyways - back to more differences even between boggers/ culchies and jackeens.

  • Dinner in the middle of the day
  • The back door as the main entry point and the front door only for the priest/guards/coffin
  • The holy communion as the dress rehearsal for the wedding, large cash amounts included.
  • Following on from the communion, the perception that someone is tight with money if they are said to be still living off their communion money.
  • Being able to mind a gap, stack a load of turf and complain about going to the bog on a sunny day
  • the two fingered greeting from the steering wheel as you pass a neighbour in the car
Sillysandy · 17/09/2025 18:18

TheLongRider · 17/09/2025 18:15

The perception that this thread is about "Irish people/ways being better than the English" says more about the reading comprehension levels and general chip on the shoulder that some people carry.

The OP has repeatedly stated that one culture is not better than the other just different. 🤷

Thank you.

It's so boring.

If the topic isn't relevant to you just scroll by and read another thread that is.

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Sillysandy · 17/09/2025 18:17

Peachandpassionfruit · 17/09/2025 15:58

I’m from Dublin and DH grew up in a very rural area and I sometimes feel like I’m in a different country when I visit his home town.
There are big differences between Dublin and rural Ireland. Love my inlaws, but MIL is a total Hyacinth Bucket and plenty of DH’s old pals would have snobby comments to make about Dubs.
Another difference between ROI and the UK is that you are not guaranteed a school place for your child, even if you live right next door to the school. My DS is in a private school because I couldn’t get a secondary school place for him in a school that was easy to get to on public transport.

This is so true! And then even within Dublin. I think there have been lots of threads on more Irish forums like boards.ie etc. It makes sense, the same way that threads here about different parts of that UK throw up loads of subtle differences.

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TheLongRider · 17/09/2025 18:15

The perception that this thread is about "Irish people/ways being better than the English" says more about the reading comprehension levels and general chip on the shoulder that some people carry.

The OP has repeatedly stated that one culture is not better than the other just different. 🤷

Sillysandy · 17/09/2025 18:14

Absolutelydonewithit · 17/09/2025 18:11

Honestly op. I’m not sure if you intended to insult either Irish or British people but making sweeping generalisations (even whilst saying you know that you’re making generalisations) is bound to raise heckles. This has just become another veiled ‘oh look aren’t Irish people just better’ threads. Newsflash. Neither are better. We’re all (both countries) full of mainly nice people with a few arseholes chucked in. Both countries.

Honestly poster,

Newsflash: If YOU choose to be offended or decide that commenting on differences is a veiled "Irish are better" then that is up to you and there is nothing I can do about it.

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Absolutelydonewithit · 17/09/2025 18:11

Honestly op. I’m not sure if you intended to insult either Irish or British people but making sweeping generalisations (even whilst saying you know that you’re making generalisations) is bound to raise heckles. This has just become another veiled ‘oh look aren’t Irish people just better’ threads. Newsflash. Neither are better. We’re all (both countries) full of mainly nice people with a few arseholes chucked in. Both countries.

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