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Differences (rep Ireland) Irish V UK

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Sillysandy · 11/09/2025 14:16

I am Irish living in Ireland. My DH is British, he is an immigrant who grew up in London but had lived for 20 years in Ireland when I met him.

I discovered mumsnet about 8 years ago when I took on a sort of stepmum role and was flabbergasted at some of the stories, attitudes and opinions.

I still found the site extremely helpful, often giving me clarity on situations which would cause me a lot of angst.

However when I talk to friends and family members living in the UK I realise that a lot is to do with cultural differences.

It's amazing given how close geographically we are.

Attitudes to money, marriage, divorce, wedding gifts, abortion, house purchases, communication with friends are so far from anything I've seen in my circles.

To give my pov; (these are all generalisations) we get married later, we stay married, we don't consider abortion unless it's very particular circumstances, we are indirect about money "I'll get this one, you can get the next one (but it is LAW you only accept if you are buying back)" and sending bank details for a small amount would be horrifyingly rude, you only attend a wedding with a card containing at least 100 euro pp, you usually get married in your mid thirties, your kids are mainly all with the one father, we hide behind humour until we know a person very well, we don't report benefit fraud, we laugh a lot more... That's just off the top of my head.

The other thing is that most Irish people know all about English Irish historical tensions but many English people are utterly oblivious.

YABU You're talking out of your ass
YANBU The differences are enormous

I'd love to hear some thoughts on this. In my line of work now I do a weekly call with my UK based team and I always notice subtle differences in attitude.

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SomebodyMcSomebody · 11/09/2025 17:29

As an Irish person who has lived in England many years, one cultural difference is that in Ireland there is a tendency to tell people what they think they would like to hear and not to be willing to be too direct or too imposing.

So you can say yes to tea, but only if they are making one anyway, you say not to a a drink so as not to appear greedy, but actually mean yes etc.

It is a peculiar set of cultural norms. When my DD was getting her A Level results, my dad phoned my sister to hear how my DD did, in case it didn't go well, rather than just call me!!

bigwhitedog · 11/09/2025 17:28

bapples1 · 11/09/2025 17:20

It is disturbing how limited the average British person's understanding of Irish history can be. It wasn't just a famine; it was genocide.

It was just not taught & the press reports here obviously have a strong bias.

And more recent history too, despite the rather belated apology from the British government, I've met a scary number of British people who think 'The IRA started Bloody Sunday and were carrying weapons and those poor soldiers had no choice but to shoot to kill'. It's a very deliberate thing by British media and education to paint the Troubles as if they had almost no part in it, I wouldn't necessarily blame said people for having no understanding of it.

Hesma · 11/09/2025 17:27

Yes there are differences especially in small day to day things. I have one parent from each country and they both found they needed to adapt when living in the other country

bapples1 · 11/09/2025 17:23

People actually dress up for a wedding in Ireland vs here 😆

incognitomouse · 11/09/2025 17:23

I have a gigantic Irish family (Dublin) and don't recognise anything in your post.

bigwhitedog · 11/09/2025 17:23

MondayTuesdayWednesday · 11/09/2025 17:18

I think the money for weddings is being somewhat misrepresented! While it is true that €100 per person would be standard as a gift for a wedding (more for relative or close friends) and people are so generous, most people getting married would never comment on someone giving less and would be grateful for any present and for the guests making an effort to come to the wedding.

This! One person didn't give a gift at my wedding and I never told a soul let alone talked about her behind her back.

CraftyNavySeal · 11/09/2025 17:20

Purpee · 11/09/2025 15:42

I am Irish, living in Ireland and had friends over recently for the weekend. They both live in London and have done for 10 years or so. Both men in high paid professional jobs.

For them the biggest difference between the countries is the obsession with class in Britain. It doesn't really exist as a topic here but apparently it's a major thing across the water.

My mums family is in Mayo, dads family is English and I grew up in London.

What I learnt is that there is an enormous gulf between what Irish people say and do! They might not explicitly talk about class but the snobbery is unbelievable.

There is clearly a middle/upper class that exists they just don’t call it that.

bapples1 · 11/09/2025 17:20

It is disturbing how limited the average British person's understanding of Irish history can be. It wasn't just a famine; it was genocide.

It was just not taught & the press reports here obviously have a strong bias.

user7638490 · 11/09/2025 17:20

Of course there is cultural difference, but I don’t recognise much of what you have said.

user7638490 · 11/09/2025 17:19

some British people know loads about the historical
tension in Ireland, and some British people know nothing about British political history.
It’s a ridiculous set of generalisations.

MondayTuesdayWednesday · 11/09/2025 17:18

I think the money for weddings is being somewhat misrepresented! While it is true that €100 per person would be standard as a gift for a wedding (more for relative or close friends) and people are so generous, most people getting married would never comment on someone giving less and would be grateful for any present and for the guests making an effort to come to the wedding.

bapples1 · 11/09/2025 17:17

I was obviously raised Catholic & had a Catholic education.

bapples1 · 11/09/2025 17:15

I'm grew up in London to Irish immigrant parents. Culturally I think there is quite a divide and the vast majority of my friends are 2nd gen immigrants because we just clicked better.

Teajenny7 · 11/09/2025 17:13

I am a Scot living in England. I think I must be Irish as your comments reflect my views!

Flossflower · 11/09/2025 17:09

Getting a taxi after stepping off the plane in Dublin, I could not believe the open racism of the taxi driver.
I know other Europeans (Greek) and yes I think 100 euros per person in an envelope would be a minimum for them. We (British) would probably give more than this but we can afford it. My children didn’t expect or want gifts at their wedding from anyone who couldn’t afford it.

Scentofgeranium · 11/09/2025 17:09

AgnesX · 11/09/2025 17:00

Maybe things have changed since my parents generation (and they were from the north) but class is odd. The professions were something to aspire to and teachers, doctors etc got huge kudos and the universities people went to were of great one-upmanship.

My grandparents were farmers with pots of money but I got the impression they were considered a bit declasse!

There is an urban/rural divide maybe, as there is most places.

Sillysandy · 11/09/2025 17:08

The catholic church still has a strong grip in Ireland as it controls many of the schools and you will even feel it's presence in hospitals.

I hate the hypocrisy of it all so I refused to have my DC baptised or any other religious ceremonies. They are not in a Catholic school.

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CoffeeCantata · 11/09/2025 17:07

OP I certainly know about the sad history between Ireland and the UK. I feel very sympathetic to the suffering of Irish people under British rule.

i know many Irish people and I find them warm and lively, sociable and with a great sense of humour.

I wish our countries could be better friends in the future. I know the Celtic nations feel anger towards the English and with good cause. But I don’t think that’s a reason to make this resentment personal in 2025.

Here’s to happy Irish/English relationships!

Scentofgeranium · 11/09/2025 17:04

Franpie · 11/09/2025 16:55

The term “culturally catholic” has been used a few times on this thread. Is that a commonly used term in Ireland? As opposed to here we would probably say “non-practicing catholic”.

To me it means I was brought up Catholic (I’m in my 50s), but only go to mass these days for weddings and funerals and at Christmas. It’s still important to me, first communions and especially funerals are important events, but I’m not strict about it at all. Others practise even less, but they might still baptize their kids.
Most primary schools here are Catholic but they’re run by laypeople these days so Catholic-lite.

I think I’m explaining this very badly, sorry.

I just think sometimes people outside Ireland think we’re all very devoutly religious still and that’s not the case.

Statsquestion1 · 11/09/2025 17:02

ClareBlue · 11/09/2025 16:59

We pay a property tax, we pay (but urban areas do not) for water and for waste water disposal and we pay for private waste collection.

Property tax is not the same as council tax. It’s much less.
we don’t have water bills…

AgnesX · 11/09/2025 17:00

Purpee · 11/09/2025 15:42

I am Irish, living in Ireland and had friends over recently for the weekend. They both live in London and have done for 10 years or so. Both men in high paid professional jobs.

For them the biggest difference between the countries is the obsession with class in Britain. It doesn't really exist as a topic here but apparently it's a major thing across the water.

Maybe things have changed since my parents generation (and they were from the north) but class is odd. The professions were something to aspire to and teachers, doctors etc got huge kudos and the universities people went to were of great one-upmanship.

My grandparents were farmers with pots of money but I got the impression they were considered a bit declasse!

Livelaughlurgy · 11/09/2025 17:00

@Franpie no, the culturally Catholic would just consider themselves Catholic. In Ireland if you're Catholic the assumption would be you don't actually practice. But as it turns out the Catholic Church in Ireland didn't really practice a lot of Christianity as it turns out, so we're well used to the hypocrisy.

aquashiv · 11/09/2025 16:59

I agree with some of your points, but I believe many generalisations are being made.

In my experience, the Irish tend to be more tolerant of differences and generally more open-minded.

It is disturbing how limited the average British person's understanding of Irish history can be. It wasn't just a famine; it was genocide.

I love both countries and take great pride in my heritage, but I prefer to live in the UK.

ClareBlue · 11/09/2025 16:59

Statsquestion1 · 11/09/2025 16:53

Yes but we don’t pay council tax like in the uk

We pay a property tax, we pay (but urban areas do not) for water and for waste water disposal and we pay for private waste collection.

Franpie · 11/09/2025 16:55

Scentofgeranium · 11/09/2025 16:48

Most younger Irish people (say under 50/60!) are more culturally Catholic really. They wouldn’t be too worried about living together before marriage or that sort of thing, but First Communions etc are still very much celebrated 😁 It’s stange all right. I think outsiders sometimes think we’re very religious and we’re not in many ways. Not fundamentalist like in other places, eg parts of the US.

The term “culturally catholic” has been used a few times on this thread. Is that a commonly used term in Ireland? As opposed to here we would probably say “non-practicing catholic”.