To think disruptive behaviour in schools is out of hand?

My son has Sen needs so slightly different but if someone told him he didn’t have to attend school he would be ecstatic!! Amd what would happen to the kids with no qualifications and limited reading/ writing skills? How will they fund themselves as adults.
The key is early support and intervention otherwise your just solving one problem by creating another.

If feral kids transferred to my child private school and started kicking off, throwing things around the classroom the parents would complain and threaten to leave and something would be done. It frustrates me how much disruption state school kids are expected to put up with just because of ‘inclusion’. Doesn’t their education matter too? No. Heads and LEAs just shrug their shoulders when parents complain. Private school parents have a voice within the school, state school parents get told just to suck it up.

Absolutely, my daughter has just started school, but I'd like to think she'd be guided not booted out should she start 'messing around'.

A better idea would maybe be some schools with a more hands on learning style rather than exam /essay based. More nurture places for semh and better sen provision. But it won’t happen.

Not underachieving, messing around. How much messing around would simply vanish if the culprit knew he could be kicked out for it? At least 75% I’d say. Don’t those willing to learn deserve a high quality state education?

Why is it entirely a government matter? Surely the foundations of good behaviour begin at home from the beginning. Children need boundaries and consistency. Before the inevitable special needs brigade chime in, from my experience of a fairly badly affected autistic son and working with people with special needs, they need even clearer rules and boundaries. Gentle Parenting has a lot to answer for but it is not only the Gentle group that need waking up. There appears to be an endemic culture of entitlement and selfishness among many people. The post on small children giving up their seats and sitting on their parents' laps to make a space for adults is a real eye opener. Even if there were more affordable private school places available, some of the feral pupils in state schools would probably transfer there in any case.

It’s difficult isn’t it, the government basically said children with additional needs should be on mainstream education where possible but then don’t adequately fund it and in fact increased class size to keep up with the population growth and cut funding of support staff and external services so now there’s huge wait list.
in terms of behaviour without Sen I think it’s fair to say children have less fear of adults nowadays and without the fear it’s harder (although not impossible) to command respect and compliance.
I also wonder if societal changes play a role, children often have less role models, less support for families outside the home, often both parents juggling working and raising a family making parenting much more stressful.
And the fact that state school has become a rigid one size fits all institution, attendance is compulsory and punishable if not complied with. Learning has become more and more pressured. school is often a place stress for some children.

That's a good idea, anyone who is underachieving just throw them out! That's a great way to solve the problem long term!

It’s why I send my child to private school. They get rid of the disruptive kids really efficiently. The teachers are just as good as the teachers at her state secondary, it’s just 25% of the lesson isn’t spent sorting out kids pissing around causing havoc. My kids grades have gone up 20% since they started. Its astonishing.

The state is against private school but why not take lessons from them. They could copy private schools success just by creating new schools for those who aren’t willing to learn, leaving those keen to learn to get on with it in peace.