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Teacher told my child that child is not a Muslim

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Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 20:45

My daughter has recently started reception and asked me today if our family are Muslims, to which I said yes. She then started crying saying her teacher told her that she (my daughter) is not a Muslim. Is it unreasonable to be angry about this?

OP posts:
WonderfulSmith · 11/09/2025 12:15

Jkam24 · 11/09/2025 12:12

Teacher said she did say it because she doesn't think children can have a religion. I didn't say much but will have a think on how to move forward - it's ok for her to think that but not for her to say it, but I am not looking to get her into trouble, rather to clarify that stating this out loud to a child is beyond her position.

To the rest of you - learn to articulate yourself without prejudices and swearing as you've just proved the point that such views exist. I wonder why people think it's ok to speak to people like shit and whether they would think it's ok to speak to someone in the same way face to face!

Edited

Really? That’s dreadful. Even if you hold that opinion then you should keep it to yourself. Personally I would be speaking to the head about that.

B1anche · 11/09/2025 12:15

Jkam24 · 11/09/2025 12:12

Teacher said she did say it because she doesn't think children can have a religion. I didn't say much but will have a think on how to move forward - it's ok for her to think that but not for her to say it, but I am not looking to get her into trouble, rather to clarify that stating this out loud to a child is beyond her position.

To the rest of you - learn to articulate yourself without prejudices and swearing as you've just proved the point that such views exist. I wonder why people think it's ok to speak to people like shit and whether they would think it's ok to speak to someone in the same way face to face!

Edited

She shouldn't be foisting her personal beliefs on children. This definitely needs addressing.

CatrionaBalfour · 11/09/2025 12:15

Ok, thanks for the update. I'm very surprised, she's almost certainly going against school policy here, it's generally accepted that teachers do not comment on, or judge, religious affiliation.
How did the conversation go?
Are you going to take this to the HT?

Jkam24 · 11/09/2025 12:12

Teacher said she did say it because she doesn't think children can have a religion. I didn't say much but will have a think on how to move forward - it's ok for her to think that but not for her to say it, but I am not looking to get her into trouble, rather to clarify that stating this out loud to a child is beyond her position.

To the rest of you - learn to articulate yourself without prejudices and swearing as you've just proved the point that such views exist. I wonder why people think it's ok to speak to people like shit and whether they would think it's ok to speak to someone in the same way face to face!

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SweetnsourNZ · 11/09/2025 12:08

Octavia64 · 10/09/2025 20:48

4 year olds are notoriously bad at remembering and understanding conversations.

maybe check with the teacher that is what she actually said?

my child went into his reception class one morning and told the teacher he’d had rum for breakfast. (He was pretending to be a pirate)

That's adorable.

CatrionaBalfour · 11/09/2025 12:08

Champagneandpringles24 · 11/09/2025 11:58

In the classroom your daughter should just be a 4 year old child and not a religion label

It's not a label, it's essential background information. This would be for teachers' general awareness, issues about diet, religious practices and observations etc.
The teacher needs to be aware of all factors.
We had a pp seemingly unaware that someone could be Indian and a Muslim. If you're a teacher, knowledge and cultural information is essential.

arcticpandas · 11/09/2025 12:08

Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 21:58

@arcticpandas why do children not wanting to hold hands bother you? If a child doesn't want to do something that is not necessary, they should not be forced to, end of. Doesn't matter what the reason. Admit to yourself you had an issue because of the religious context.

Children were ALL made to hold hands two by two while we walked outside. Some boys didn't want to because it was 'haram". It was disruptive because the teacher had to negotiate this because it's the done thing when walking in public with small children'. I am not saying I found the kids offensive : I find it offensive that parents teach their children that they can't hold another boys hand when they are 5 y old because it's haram. It's bloody ridiculous.

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/09/2025 12:00

Champagneandpringles24 · 11/09/2025 11:58

In the classroom your daughter should just be a 4 year old child and not a religion label

You need to know a child's religion to understand dietary rules etc. It's not a teacher's job to tell them they are or are not said religion.

Champagneandpringles24 · 11/09/2025 11:58

In the classroom your daughter should just be a 4 year old child and not a religion label

HRTQueen · 11/09/2025 11:55

I hope your dd got this wrong and she is no longer upset.

It could be that your dd got this right, teachers are not immune to being prejudice and children can certainly pick up on this I really hope not though and its been a misunderstanding

And some children are more advanced for their age, nothing wrong in noticing this about your child (my child wasn't but his best friend was)

Onmytod24 · 11/09/2025 11:49

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/09/2025 11:38

But even if the teacher was Islamaphobic I don't understand why she'd tell a child she wasn't Muslim. I cant imagine a conversation like that in Reception, if a child told me they were a Jedi I'd say 'Oh, OK' and move on.

It could be anything from the way the little girl was dressed to the way she wore her hair that told the teacher this child is not Muslim; of course it’s ridiculous but that’s the way some brains operate. Maybe mothers chat with the teacher will inspire the school to set up some further training or maybe the teacher was saying that little girl didn’t have any muscles but had a broad unusual accent - hopefully we’ll all find out later

Salome61 · 11/09/2025 11:47

I'm disappointed you haven't come back op! What happened? My friend's 5 year old grandson told her he was an alligator in the school play and she cut up her tablecloth to make his outfit ... NARRATOR! Not alligator! She didn't really see the funny side at all!

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/09/2025 11:46

DolphinOnASkateboard · 11/09/2025 11:45

Going to put my Richard Dawkins hat on and say there's no such thing as a four-year-old Muslim (or Christian, or Hindu, or any religious group), just a four-year-old with Muslim parents.

That's completely irrelevant to the thread and the OP's concern - unless you are the child's teacher.

DolphinOnASkateboard · 11/09/2025 11:45

Going to put my Richard Dawkins hat on and say there's no such thing as a four-year-old Muslim (or Christian, or Hindu, or any religious group), just a four-year-old with Muslim parents.

cittykat · 11/09/2025 11:40

Even your child didn’t know so it can’t feature that strongly in her life. Don’t worry about it.

anyway. She’s 4. She can’t have a religion really. Her parents can but she’s too young. At this age kids just believe what they’re told, they don’t have critical thinking skills

40andlovelife · 11/09/2025 11:39

And the didn’t happen of the year award goes to…..

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/09/2025 11:38

Onmytod24 · 11/09/2025 10:46

You really believe there’s no Islamophobic teachers in the UK? There’s just as many in the schools as there are people on this platform.

But even if the teacher was Islamaphobic I don't understand why she'd tell a child she wasn't Muslim. I cant imagine a conversation like that in Reception, if a child told me they were a Jedi I'd say 'Oh, OK' and move on.

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/09/2025 11:34

CatrionaBalfour · 11/09/2025 10:44

Right, I've lived in England all my life and never heard it pronounced with a soft G. Would that be like a French pronunciation.?
School friends, colleagues, neighbours..all Gillian with a hard G , as if it's spelled Jillian.

Gillian pronounced like Jillian would be a soft G. A hard G would be like guitar or gun or garbage. A soft g is like giraffe or geography.

I've never heard the name said with a hard G but I have only ever lived in England.

Reportingfromwherever · 11/09/2025 11:34

Goquietly · 10/09/2025 21:25

Similar happened to my son actually when he was young, but it was because he looks white - the TA had asked the class who was celebrating Eid, he put his hand up and was told to put it down and ‘no not you’ he was very confused so I did mention it to school and they took it really seriously (way more than I expected), because his religion had been prejudged by his appearance.

This has happened to me all my life. I’m mixed race, but look white, and Muslim. I can well imagine this happening if your child looks white - people seem to confuse colour and religion.

Brunettesmorefun · 11/09/2025 11:24

Coldnightsapproachingwhereismyduvet · 10/09/2025 20:52

When my dd was 4 she can home hysterical her teacher had said she was a Human Being and she didn't want to be one.
4 year olds get easily mixed up.

I love this. Bless her!

Livelovebehappy · 11/09/2025 11:23

Onmytod24 · 11/09/2025 10:46

You really believe there’s no Islamophobic teachers in the UK? There’s just as many in the schools as there are people on this platform.

Not one that would blatantly say to a child 'you are not a Muslim' And why would someone say that? In what context? It doesn't make sense, and if it doesn't make sense it's not true. Clearly a case of a child totally misunderstanding a conversation.

CatrionaBalfour · 11/09/2025 11:09

Yes,there are millions of Indian Muslims.

Franpie · 11/09/2025 11:08

This does remind me of when a friend of my DD’s asked me if he was Muslim when they were little.

He is of Indian origin and I knew his parents very well and I told him that no, he’s not Muslim as I thought that a) he’d probably know if he was Muslim, b) I’d probably know if he was Muslim through my friendship with his mum, c) balance of probabilities, unlikely to be Muslim as of Indian descent, rather than Pakistani.

Later that evening though I started second guessing myself and had to send a weird out of the blue text to his mum asking if she’s Muslim. I must have sounded like an idiot. I made a mental note to not engage in religious conversations with little kids after that as you can get yourself in a right pickle!

Jablurker · 11/09/2025 11:00

Find it a very odd that a teacher would have to ask MN about how to approach another teacher to clear up what is most likely a misunderstanding. 🤷🏻‍♀️

helpfulperson · 11/09/2025 10:58

MasterBeth · 11/09/2025 10:49

Giant - soft G. Like a J. Like Jillian.

Goal - hard G. Like Monty Python's Terry Gillian.

Zhillian - what you are thinking of.

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Thank you. That explains it perfectly.

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