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Teacher told my child that child is not a Muslim

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Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 20:45

My daughter has recently started reception and asked me today if our family are Muslims, to which I said yes. She then started crying saying her teacher told her that she (my daughter) is not a Muslim. Is it unreasonable to be angry about this?

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TheignT · 11/09/2025 20:11

Champagneandpringles24 · 11/09/2025 20:04

I see Christianity is the top of your list.
I also know this is a COE country sooo.....

Whatever the figures this certainly isn't a 100% Christian country and people are able to choose their religion and bring their children up in that religion. Teacher had no right to say what she did.

beetr00 · 11/09/2025 20:09

"I see Christianity is the top of your list" and...? 😕

What's your point, exactly @Champagneandpringles24

We are not a predominantly christian country

Champagneandpringles24 · 11/09/2025 20:04

beetr00 · 11/09/2025 20:03

this is not true @Champagneandpringles24

Religious Breakdown in the UK (2021 Census for England and Wales)

Christian: 46.2%
No religion: 37.2%
Muslim: 6.5%
Hindu: 1.7%
Sikh: 0.9%
Buddhist: 0.5%
Jewish: 0.5%
Other religions: 0.6%

ie. 47.9% of England & Wales, is not christian

I see Christianity is the top of your list.
I also know this is a COE country sooo.....

beetr00 · 11/09/2025 20:03

Champagneandpringles24 · 11/09/2025 19:50

Or people need to realise this is a Christian country.

this is not true @Champagneandpringles24

Religious Breakdown in the UK (2021 Census for England and Wales)

Christian: 46.2%
No religion: 37.2%
Muslim: 6.5%
Hindu: 1.7%
Sikh: 0.9%
Buddhist: 0.5%
Jewish: 0.5%
Other religions: 0.6%

ie. 47.9% of England & Wales, is not christian

Google Search

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1YQLS_enGB898GB898&cs=0&sca_esv=1350d2b39f18322d&q=Hindu&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiM7ue-sdGPAxVTQkEAHZ-zM7sQxccNegQIExAB&mstk=AUtExfBPLqrUrocDPAxXNnMSt_znexVCDzG8H515xI3kKfycOEyB4SkPMjrBroro3Mu-PxpD-eiMQaIlyiDkHPW0pvtnQJpk8m8LLBEJoMrxzwibrFe6J4X5ITn3HpKx8L4rpcA&csui=3

Kohll · 11/09/2025 20:02

Petitchat · 11/09/2025 19:52

Maybe she's given herself time to think and calm down a bit which would be the sensible thing to do.

Thinking time is allowed, you know.

Why are you having a go at her?
What is your agenda?
Are you bitter about something and taking it out on OP?

I remember the days when women on mumsnet used to support each other.
Shame this doesn't happen much any more...

Edited

Asking because OP jumped to what I thought was a farfetched conclusion based on the info given. She began hinting at all sorts of things she felt were unjust and specific to her religion and couldn't believe all others didn't agree the teacher was probably just a horrid racist.

Now that something else seems to have come to light as being at play (if the teacher did in fact admit something, and we don't know that this isn't just her explanation, I accept) and it's not all about OP or her particular religion, she's suddenly not interested in putting it right.

Petitchat · 11/09/2025 19:52

Kohll · 11/09/2025 19:41

So you were really angry when you thought this could have been said and might somehow be prejudiced against just you, your child, or your beliefs (despite others reflecting that a denial like this would not actually even be effective at being aggressive or offensive in the way you insinuated).

Now that you say the teacher admits the statement in the context of her general views about children and religion (which others find inappropriate to share in the workplace and with young children themselves), despite apparently being a teacher yourself, you seem to accept it and don't want to do anything more about it?

Maybe she's given herself time to think and calm down a bit which would be the sensible thing to do.

Thinking time is allowed, you know.

Why are you having a go at her?
What is your agenda?
Are you bitter about something and taking it out on OP?

I remember the days when women on mumsnet used to support each other.
Shame this doesn't happen much any more...

Champagneandpringles24 · 11/09/2025 19:50

weirdoboelady · 11/09/2025 19:35

I don't know about Islam, but isn't the whole point of (Christian) baptism that you are welcoming the child to the church? So that baby is a Christian.

While I take the teacher's (assumed) point that 4 year olds are not sufficiently mature to have chosen their religion, it would be inaccurate to say that a baptised child is not a Christian. So why is it in any way accurate to say that a 4 year old Muslim child is not a Muslim?

And irrespective of all this.... why is the teacher not upset that her off the cuff remark sent a child home in tears? It does need reporting, but as a philosophical point rather than being associated with any implied racism.

Or people need to realise this is a Christian country.

cumbriaisbest · 11/09/2025 19:49

While teacher is having this conversation about religion with a 4 year old, what are the the other 35 doing?

Champagneandpringles24 · 11/09/2025 19:45

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/09/2025 19:27

Fortunately that is not how schools in this country operate.

UNFORTUNATELY

Kohll · 11/09/2025 19:41

So you were really angry when you thought this could have been said and might somehow be prejudiced against just you, your child, or your beliefs (despite others reflecting that a denial like this would not actually even be effective at being aggressive or offensive in the way you insinuated).

Now that you say the teacher admits the statement in the context of her general views about children and religion (which others find inappropriate to share in the workplace and with young children themselves), despite apparently being a teacher yourself, you seem to accept it and don't want to do anything more about it?

weirdoboelady · 11/09/2025 19:35

I don't know about Islam, but isn't the whole point of (Christian) baptism that you are welcoming the child to the church? So that baby is a Christian.

While I take the teacher's (assumed) point that 4 year olds are not sufficiently mature to have chosen their religion, it would be inaccurate to say that a baptised child is not a Christian. So why is it in any way accurate to say that a 4 year old Muslim child is not a Muslim?

And irrespective of all this.... why is the teacher not upset that her off the cuff remark sent a child home in tears? It does need reporting, but as a philosophical point rather than being associated with any implied racism.

TeaBiscuitsNaptime · 11/09/2025 19:35

CatrionaBalfour · 11/09/2025 18:35

Teacher has admitted it.

Thanks CatrionaBalfour. Didn't realise that

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/09/2025 19:27

Champagneandpringles24 · 11/09/2025 18:59

Let's not forget this IS still a Christian Country. I wouldn't go to a school in Tutkey or any other school on any other country and critise any Muslim teacher because I chose to put my child in an education system that didn't meet or suit mine or my child's needs or religion. I'd go somewhere that did 🤷🏼‍♀️

Fortunately that is not how schools in this country operate.

Petitchat · 11/09/2025 19:21

ByTipsyRubyBalonz · 11/09/2025 09:09

Your four year old doesn't understand other people aren't Muslim. So the teacher never said this.

Turns out she did..

Sportsdaywinner · 11/09/2025 19:17

Doesn't matter how advanced you say she is, she is still only very young and is very likely to get muddled up like any other child. My son used to come home telling us the most random.stuff when he was in the early years at primary. Took it with a pinch of salt and clarified anything with the staff if we needed to when we felt it was something important he'd got mixed up. Chill out a bit 😅

ForCraftyWriter · 11/09/2025 19:06

@Jkam24 I don’t agree with you. It DOES matter and is completely inappropriate for a teacher to tell a child of any religion that they are not that religion. The teachers personal beliefs about this don’t come into it
I’m wondering whether you might not be born/raised in the UK? As this comment by the teacher would definitely be considered a serious error and an important training need.
Malice is irrelevant here, it’s simply not ok.
If we reframed it and said the teacher told a Jewish child that they aren’t Jewish. It becomes obvious that this seriously not ok.
You should definitely take this up with the head. It’s important and should be corrected, which won’t happen if you don’t do this

Champagneandpringles24 · 11/09/2025 18:59

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/09/2025 12:00

You need to know a child's religion to understand dietary rules etc. It's not a teacher's job to tell them they are or are not said religion.

Let's not forget this IS still a Christian Country. I wouldn't go to a school in Tutkey or any other school on any other country and critise any Muslim teacher because I chose to put my child in an education system that didn't meet or suit mine or my child's needs or religion. I'd go somewhere that did 🤷🏼‍♀️

godmum56 · 11/09/2025 18:41

TeaBiscuitsNaptime · 11/09/2025 18:24

It depends how the teacher said it. If she is little, she might have been telling her a few times and the teacher could have said 'your not Muslim are you?' in a joking ' I don't believe it' kind of way. It depends on how it was said really. You could ask the teacher to clarify it or you could just leave it too and keep an eye as to whether it's a one off or a regular thing

Edited

RTFT

CatrionaBalfour · 11/09/2025 18:36

LibbyOTV · 11/09/2025 18:26

Even if you are overthinking it OP, that's understandable given the current climate, I would too. Let us know what the teacher said.

She has updated us. Go on "see all".

CatrionaBalfour · 11/09/2025 18:35

TeaBiscuitsNaptime · 11/09/2025 18:24

It depends how the teacher said it. If she is little, she might have been telling her a few times and the teacher could have said 'your not Muslim are you?' in a joking ' I don't believe it' kind of way. It depends on how it was said really. You could ask the teacher to clarify it or you could just leave it too and keep an eye as to whether it's a one off or a regular thing

Edited

Teacher has admitted it.

Gingernessy · 11/09/2025 18:35

EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/09/2025 18:10

@Jkam24 I would be reporting this to the Head, clearly some members of staff need reminding that their personal views should be left outside the classroom.

Isn't a child identifying with a particular religion whilst in school simply expressing a personal view that shouldn't need to be expressed too?
What did the child say to cause the teacher to reply as she did?
They're isn't any hard proof that any religion is actually the true calling is there - just faith.

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 11/09/2025 18:33

This seems mad to me. When your child is entered on the school database there is a field for religion. Presumably you selected `Muslim when you filled in the forms. That's your child's religion and it will stay that way unless and until they reach an age when they choose to change it.

We are Catholics from an Irish background. Even in my teens and twenties when I was a non-believer I still identified as Catholic. It was cultural as much as religious.

My adult DC have all grown away from the faith and no longer practice but would tick Catholic on any medical form - because even they no longer believe anymore they are still more Catholic than any other faith. They have a background of belief that has shaped them. They no longer adhere to it and actively reject some of it but even the act of rejecting it is an integral part of their background and ethnicity.

EDITED TO CHANGE THE LAST PARA

KitsyWitsy · 11/09/2025 18:26

TheignT · 11/09/2025 18:22

Like the ones who knew it never happened?

Exactly. I am incredulous on Facebook at the amount of people who fall for obvious AI posts. Posts on forums are more subtle, but also often nonsense too. I fall for it myself sometimes.

LibbyOTV · 11/09/2025 18:26

Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 21:03

Agreed a hundred percent. I just told her perhaps she didn't know, and gave her context about everyone believing different things and how that's ok. Just overthinking the conversation and getting irritated at the thought of it happening as my daughter is quite good with her communication. Wanted to get a feel of others opinions and I'm definitely overthinking it.

Even if you are overthinking it OP, that's understandable given the current climate, I would too. Let us know what the teacher said.

TeaBiscuitsNaptime · 11/09/2025 18:24

It depends how the teacher said it. If she is little, she might have been telling her a few times and the teacher could have said 'your not Muslim are you?' in a joking ' I don't believe it' kind of way. It depends on how it was said really. You could ask the teacher to clarify it or you could just leave it too and keep an eye as to whether it's a one off or a regular thing