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Teacher told my child that child is not a Muslim

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Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 20:45

My daughter has recently started reception and asked me today if our family are Muslims, to which I said yes. She then started crying saying her teacher told her that she (my daughter) is not a Muslim. Is it unreasonable to be angry about this?

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BarnOwlFlying · 10/09/2025 21:26

Gallopingfanjo · 10/09/2025 21:14

Exactly, whatever sky fairy you believe in is either directly related to your geography or parental choice. My priest father was pretty sure about his choice and it took me until my teens to realise it was up to me.

Sky Fairy? Is that really necessary? Grow up.

Goquietly · 10/09/2025 21:25

Similar happened to my son actually when he was young, but it was because he looks white - the TA had asked the class who was celebrating Eid, he put his hand up and was told to put it down and ‘no not you’ he was very confused so I did mention it to school and they took it really seriously (way more than I expected), because his religion had been prejudged by his appearance.

Kohll · 10/09/2025 21:25

Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 21:18

Kohll - I'm just going to ignore you as you don't have the basics skills to have a conversation without rudeness / sarcasm. Your hostility says a lot.
BusWankers - I'm not a mother who thinks my child is more intelligent or special - her other teachers have mentioned she is advanced for her age - nothing more, nothing less. Thanks though.
Fojn - the patronising remark was towards those knowingly being patronising. Of course it's reasonable to get the facts first. Its not really a jump as Islamophobia is rampant, even in this thread with the little microaggressions being thrown around, however I did say might

You don't understand what ignore means do you, if you respond to me to call me hostile.

I think you're way off the mark and I'm not being sarcastic in the slightest. She is just four. She's not so advanced she couldn't misunderstand. She's clearly not advanced enough to understand she belongs to your religion even if she has a sense of what it means. And it's simply not a typical thing for anyone to deny another person's religion (even if you wanted to be offensive, it's not) and even less so an adult getting to know, and caring about teaching, a brand new pupil.

Onmytod24 · 10/09/2025 21:24

Enko · 10/09/2025 20:47

Speak to the teacher and find out their side

Side? These are not 2 equals in a discussion

CaptainMyCaptain · 10/09/2025 21:23

moondune · 10/09/2025 21:11

Perhaps the teacher meant that at 4 years old a child can’t possibly know what religion they are. At that age it is something foisted upon them (or not).

I don't think a teacher would do that.

soupyspoon · 10/09/2025 21:23

moondune · 10/09/2025 21:11

Perhaps the teacher meant that at 4 years old a child can’t possibly know what religion they are. At that age it is something foisted upon them (or not).

Well yes, exactly. Probably not relevant as the teacher is unlikely to have said this thing but this is correct. A 4 year old doesnt have a religion, any more than they can say father christmas is real or the tooth fairy.

They dont have the understanding to determine whether they believe theres a god or other gods or what that means and what other belief systems there are or are not.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 10/09/2025 21:23

Sounds like your idea of discussing it with the teacher is a good one. With the best will in the world, kids do misunderstand things. But if there is something murkier under it, you need to know as soon as possible.

CatrionaBalfour · 10/09/2025 21:22

moondune · 10/09/2025 21:11

Perhaps the teacher meant that at 4 years old a child can’t possibly know what religion they are. At that age it is something foisted upon them (or not).

She wouldn't risk her career!

CaptainMyCaptain · 10/09/2025 21:20

It sounds like a misunderstanding to me.

Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 21:18

Kohll - I'm just going to ignore you as you don't have the basics skills to have a conversation without rudeness / sarcasm. Your hostility says a lot.
BusWankers - I'm not a mother who thinks my child is more intelligent or special - her other teachers have mentioned she is advanced for her age - nothing more, nothing less. Thanks though.
Fojn - the patronising remark was towards those knowingly being patronising. Of course it's reasonable to get the facts first. Its not really a jump as Islamophobia is rampant, even in this thread with the little microaggressions being thrown around, however I did say might

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Mumof2amazingasdkiddos · 10/09/2025 21:18

I understand your initial reaction to be pissed with the teacher but sleep on it and calmly ask the question tomorrow, 99% chance its a misunderstanding and can be resolved with a quick conversation. If however its the 1% chance the teacher knows DC is Muslim and has decided they have an issue with that and want to convince her she's not or that its wrong to be Muslim then absolutely take it further but always double check both sides first in anything your DC tells you as good comprehension skills or not misunderstanding and mishearing does happen a LOT more than blatant racism or incompetence by a teacher

ilovepixie · 10/09/2025 21:17

My niece what she was 4 told her nursery teacher about her hamster, it’s name, colour, age what it ate and did! She didn’t have a hamster! It was totally made up!

CatrionaBalfour · 10/09/2025 21:15

hopspot · 10/09/2025 21:13

Children ask off the cuff questions all the time. Sometimes I can’t hear them properly in a busy room and answer wrongly. Earlier today one told me their tooth hurt and I answered they it sounds great.

It’s really hard to process 30+ children’s questions all day every day along with the cognitive load of teaching.

its very early in the term, I’m sure the teacher hasn’t memorised every single fact about every child from their admissions form yet.

This ⬆️

Gallopingfanjo · 10/09/2025 21:14

User364431 · 10/09/2025 21:12

And she would be perfectly correct as well.

Exactly, whatever sky fairy you believe in is either directly related to your geography or parental choice. My priest father was pretty sure about his choice and it took me until my teens to realise it was up to me.

hopspot · 10/09/2025 21:13

Children ask off the cuff questions all the time. Sometimes I can’t hear them properly in a busy room and answer wrongly. Earlier today one told me their tooth hurt and I answered they it sounds great.

It’s really hard to process 30+ children’s questions all day every day along with the cognitive load of teaching.

its very early in the term, I’m sure the teacher hasn’t memorised every single fact about every child from their admissions form yet.

JillyGiraffe · 10/09/2025 21:12

I’m 99% sure this is a is understanding. I thought my child was advanced at this age and can only laugh at some of the things I’ve had to check with his teacher!

User364431 · 10/09/2025 21:12

moondune · 10/09/2025 21:11

Perhaps the teacher meant that at 4 years old a child can’t possibly know what religion they are. At that age it is something foisted upon them (or not).

And she would be perfectly correct as well.

moondune · 10/09/2025 21:11

Perhaps the teacher meant that at 4 years old a child can’t possibly know what religion they are. At that age it is something foisted upon them (or not).

User364431 · 10/09/2025 21:10

Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 20:59

Let's not be patronising, I'm sure you are well aware why someone might have done this.

No, people genuinely do not know why. If you're trying to insinuate that the teacher is racist then the situation still doesn't make sense. A racist would exclude a student because they were muslim or some other race/religion. They would not deny the religious or ethnic orientation of a student and inexplicably tell them so. It would make no sense if they told a black student "You're not black" in their face because that's not how racial micro-aggressions work.

The only possible scenario where this could be construed as offensive is if the teacher is muslim herself, and for some reason she felt your daughter was doing something that wasn't in line with the religion. Eg. If she chose not to do Ramadan or ate certain foods and the response is she's "not Muslim" enough. That would certainly be grounds for offence.

BusWankers · 10/09/2025 21:10

Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 20:59

Let's not be patronising, I'm sure you are well aware why someone might have done this.

Why would anyone tell a child their family aren't Muslims?

Honestly, if you're suggesting it's some sort of racism, why would the comments be "your family isn't Muslim" ... wouldn't it be something like "I can't believe your family are Muslim...ergh"

Or more likely it would actually be "I didn't know you were Muslim" or "is your family Muslim?"
Or anything along those lines. A curious question or similar.

Randomlygeneratedname · 10/09/2025 21:09

Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 20:59

Let's not be patronising, I'm sure you are well aware why someone might have done this.

I have zero clue as to why anyone would tell a muslim child they weren't Muslim. I may think islamophobia is at play if they say, treated your child differently or were rude/nasty about Muslims Infront of her but that doesn't seem to be the case.

What was the conversation and why did this even come up?

Kohll · 10/09/2025 21:07

Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 21:03

Agreed a hundred percent. I just told her perhaps she didn't know, and gave her context about everyone believing different things and how that's ok. Just overthinking the conversation and getting irritated at the thought of it happening as my daughter is quite good with her communication. Wanted to get a feel of others opinions and I'm definitely overthinking it.

She's not quite good with her communication. She asked you today if your family are Muslim and then started crying. She's four.

BusWankers · 10/09/2025 21:06

Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 20:57

I'm not sure where I said I instantly believed her. My DD is advanced for her age therefore I asked her this explain a few times / in a few different ways, so concluded there is a chance that she would be telling the truth.

😂 everyone thinks they're kids are advanced, especially in reception.

My child is a bright little thing, but still thought that her teacher actually wanted to take her home and eat her for dinner. Teacher had happened to mention being hungry because it was lunchtime and made a comment a few moments later about "or so cute, I could eat it"... DD put two and two together and reached 12 million....

Kohll · 10/09/2025 21:04

Reception teachers have much better things to do than make assertions you think they might for whatever reason you think you're so cleverly alluding to.

FOJN · 10/09/2025 21:04

Jkam24 · 10/09/2025 20:59

Let's not be patronising, I'm sure you are well aware why someone might have done this.

There is literally nothing patronising about saying it would be a good idea to get all the facts first.

Are you suggesting the teacher might be islamophobic? That's quite a leap to make without the full picture.