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To be annoyed that my employer won’t let me go part time?

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Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 20:09

I currently work full time 5 days a week. I made a flexible working request to go part time to 2 days a week because of personal circumstances (family circumstances) but it was declined. I’m annoyed though because there are other people (2 other people) working in the company only 2 days a week so it’s not unheard of. But they won’t consider it because I’m a head of department (not in a school and nothing to do with education or academics) and they also won’t give me another role in the company either which can be 2 days a week. I feel like I could cry with stress, I can’t afford to not work at all but can’t work 5 days a week at the moment either due to circumstances. I explained on my request that part time 2 days a week might not be permanent but they still declined the request. Both my boss and the managing director are always moaning that they “dread the day” I leave because “there’s no one in the business as good as” me so it’s baffling to me that they wouldn’t approve the 2 days a week knowing that I can’t work full time 5 days a week at the moment but then at the same time always say that they don’t want me to leave the company and would do anything to stop me leaving. I haven’t decided if I should appeal it yet or not, I don’t know what to do. I’m just really upset and have been crying about it because I can’t afford not to work at all and can’t do full time at the moment either. I’m also very annoyed with my employer too for rejecting the request. AIBU to be annoyed with my employer about this?

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Bimblebombles · 10/09/2025 22:32

Wouldn’t you be entitled to some kind of maternity leave type equivalent given the age of the 4th foster child?

It sounds a highly stressful situation and, to be quite honest, I am somewhat surprised that social services would place 4 children of such young ages with a single working carer. What do they expect you to do? How do they expect you to support these children / house them and manage the stress alone? Is it the right choice to take on a six month old when your entire career is potentially on the line in order to facilitate it?

LillyPJ · 10/09/2025 22:31

CopperWhite · 10/09/2025 20:17

You can’t honestly believe that you can do the same job in two days that currently takes you five.

Only if you're sitting doing nothing 3/5th of the time!

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 22:28

Greggsit · 10/09/2025 22:25

Seriously? How have you not noticed that you're quoting yourself here?

I know that I was quoting myself. As some posters were asking questions that I had already answered on previous comments so I was quoting my old comments so that they would see that I had answered the question previously, sorry

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Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 10/09/2025 22:28

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 22:20

This is the industry that I work in too.

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Greggsit · 10/09/2025 22:25

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 22:20

This is the industry that I work in too.

Seriously? How have you not noticed that you're quoting yourself here?

Blushingm · 10/09/2025 22:24

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 20:16

No not for my current role. But I can absolutely do my role in 2 days a week, it is possible.

So you can fulfil you entire role - the work you do now - in 2 days? How?

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 22:20

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 21:50

I work for a production company, we produce TV shows.

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This is the industry that I work in too.

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Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 22:19

It’s long term kinship fostering with a view of moving to SGO.

But the 4th child I am taking on is a 6 month old who is not in nursery yet. 2 of the children that I have currently are in school and the 3rd is in nursery but I struggle to work full time currently so I definitely can’t work full time once I have the 4th child.

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Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 10/09/2025 22:17

Are any of the children disabled?

Are you adopting or could you adopt them and take adoption leave?

Can you get foster payments at all from the council?

Could you take parental leave, at least in the short term? You can take I think 4 weeks per child per year and if the child is disabled you can take it in chunks of individual days. So if you went down to 3 days a week using parental leave that would cover almost a year (4 kids x 2O days each = 80 days or 2 days a week for 40 weeks ).

Obviously your employer still needs to agree it but they can't refuse it entirely, they can only delay it.

HollyIvie · 10/09/2025 22:17

Any flexible working request must not be to the detriment of the business so you can understand them being concerned about such a big jump from 5 days to 2 days. 3 days may be more workable
for them.

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 22:14

After looking at my bills, outgoings and mortgage etc I have worked out that I can’t afford to not work at all.

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Pessismistic · 10/09/2025 22:11

Will the foster care money not replace your wages? I thought people were paid for foster care?

FioFioSILK · 10/09/2025 22:10

You're going to need the full time job back at some point as the fostering may be temporary. Hire a nanny or au pair part time to do school runs etc. Without a partner you will need someone else to support. There's an organisation that employs older women to care for kids after school etc. unless you're ready to move on accept it.

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 22:09

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 21:43

It’s a complex situation. I’m currently a kinship (caring for family members children who have been taken in to care) foster carer (and have been for over 2 years) to 3 children. But in a few months I am taking on a 4th kinship foster child and I have worked out that working full time won’t be workable (I just about manage full time now with 3 foster children and it’s a struggle and work know this) with a 4th but I also can’t afford not to work at all. Work know all of this.

These are the circumstances

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Vaxtable · 10/09/2025 22:09

They are a business and whatever you say about you being able to do your job in two days, that actually won’t work for them as a HOD they need you in five days

why don’t you see if they would reduce your hours each day so do perhaps 2/3rds of your current daily hours and see if that works? Then maybe ask to reduce to 5x half day

the other alternative is to go ahead and find another role that does 2 days, good luck on that

Soggydog · 10/09/2025 22:08

Not that it fully resolves your issue with needing to reduce hours, but have you been given a fostering allowance as Social Services have removed the children. If not do push for one, it may mean a financial assessment, but you should absolutely not be pushed into poverty for this, and also check you are getting what you are entitled to on turn2us or entitledto. If the children have been left needing more support than their peers and for longer than a 6 month period and it will continue you can claim DLA, even without a diagnosis of anything.

I hope you are allowed to reduce your hours as that is a lot to deal with. You are amazing!

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 22:07

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 21:09

That’s how I have been saying it to them and that’s what I meant too when I said that my job could be done in 2 days (I did mean it is possible to cover the work on the other days and I explained to them in detail how that could be done), that I can do the highest value of the role and I have been explaining to them how the other work could be reorganised/covered and so on. I’ve been careful with how I put it across to them. I didn’t explain what I meant properly on my earlier comments, sorry.

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This is what I meant when I said I can do my job in 2 days.

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tourdefrance · 10/09/2025 22:06

If you are a foster carer, don't you get a salary from the local council?

Worklifegoals · 10/09/2025 22:05

Tryingtoconceivenumber2 · 10/09/2025 21:44

I currently work 3 days a week in a senior role and have since 2021 when I returned from Mat leave. It's been so hard, I get paid for 24 hours per week (8 hour days) in reality I work more like 30 I just don't get paid for the extra.

It's incredibly stressful and I definitely get looked down upon for working part time despite constantly getting extremely positive feedback. I have no idea how you could drop down as far as 2 days. I am going back 4 days in Jan (32 hours) as I'm sick of not getting paid for what I actually work.

Could you suggest 3.5 days as a compromise so you are actually there 4 days. They may be more comfortable with that. Good luck x

They would just make you do full time outputs in 4 days, that’s always be the given at my place!

I think she needs to pitch it as a job share scenario to work 2 days in department head role.

Is this the big scandal I was reading about that if your foster for blood relatives then you don’t actually get paid to be a foster carer like other foster carers? It’s absolutely shocking really, MPs take note!!

Call ACAS and see if there’s any protection as you are kinship.

what’s your sickness pay policy like? You may need to go off with burnout and then they will know what it’s like for you to not be there at all!

brunettemic · 10/09/2025 22:05

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 20:16

No not for my current role. But I can absolutely do my role in 2 days a week, it is possible.

Including (presumably, given it’s a Head of Department role I think) managing your team, dealing with any escalations in a timely manner, covering leave and sickness of the team, attending all relevant meetings etc? I’ve never worked anywhere where a Head of Department role could be done in 2 days.

FlockofSquirrels · 10/09/2025 22:04

Tryingtoconceivenumber2 · 10/09/2025 21:44

I currently work 3 days a week in a senior role and have since 2021 when I returned from Mat leave. It's been so hard, I get paid for 24 hours per week (8 hour days) in reality I work more like 30 I just don't get paid for the extra.

It's incredibly stressful and I definitely get looked down upon for working part time despite constantly getting extremely positive feedback. I have no idea how you could drop down as far as 2 days. I am going back 4 days in Jan (32 hours) as I'm sick of not getting paid for what I actually work.

Could you suggest 3.5 days as a compromise so you are actually there 4 days. They may be more comfortable with that. Good luck x

This is one of the big pitfalls I see over and over. From the decision-maker perspective one of the reasons I'm extremely cautious about approving part-time manager roles under me is that I believe that if I approve a role as part-time then I need to ensure that it will be able to be done in those hours without the sort of pressure you're experiencing and without negatively impacting others. I think that part of my duty of care is not setting employees up for "failure" (I'm promise I'm not calling you a failure but it sounds like you're in a no-win situation), and I will actively support time and workload boundaries for the part time or modified schedules I do approve. But I don't just say yes to requests/proposals and hope it works out; I feel like that often tends to be the permissive-parenting approach to these decisions, where they don't want to come across as inflexible or risk a good candidate/employee leaving but then employees are left to struggle with the realities and not enough ongoing support.

WickedElpheba · 10/09/2025 22:04

OP your employer does not have to agree to you working a 2-day week. It's a big change. If you would consider 3 days then ask them but otherwise you'll have to look for another job.

babyproblems · 10/09/2025 22:03

I’d be looking elsewhere, and honestly I’d go off sick if I needed to. I wouldn’t take that decision lightly but if I was absolutely on the brink of a breakdown or serious burnout and I was required to concentrate on family issues for a temporary period of time; I’d do it.
You could also use any annual leave to work shorter weeks a couple of times a month if they’d allow this.
I would still job hunt because they’ve proved they don’t really care much for your general wellbeing despite you being so excellent at work - probably because you work very hard and are an asset. Best of luck to you, I hope things become easier for you soon. It’s horrible having to burn the candle at both ends in serious situations where there is no let up. Take care Xxx

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 22:01

I don’t have a partner or husband.

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jacks11 · 10/09/2025 22:00

Topoftheroof · 10/09/2025 21:54

There are definitely ways that they could have offered me another role in the company though for 2 days a week but they declined that as well.

Are those roles currently available/being advertised or are you expecting them to create a role specifically for you?

if it is the former- can they actually stop you applying? Have they said why they won’t move you to a different role that is available?

if it is the latter, I think it is a bit much to expect a job to be created for you.