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To ask DH to keep our BTL

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Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 13:50

We own a BTL property that generates a decent income for me - it’s set up so that most of the income is directed to me. DH plans to refurbish and sell the property and us the proceeds to pay of the mortgage on our house. All very sensible but as I don’t work, the BTL is my only source of income. DH doesn’t plan on reducing the monthly payments on our mortgage, but he is going to reduce the term, so we won’t see any immediate benefit from lower repayments. I am feeling distressed because this money provides me with considerable financial freedom.

My husband is refusing to discuss and has told me the plan to sell is final.

OP posts:
minipie · 10/09/2025 20:37

I’ll have to use our joint account but I now he’ll start making comments about my spending, in particular on things he considers superfluous

Ok, so he isn’t going to cut you off financially. He isn’t expecting you to work. The worst that’s going to happen is he will be able to see what you’re spending and comment on it.

If he thinks aspects of your spending are unreasonable, it seems sensible that you discuss this together like adults, rather than hiding it.

That said, there is the option to do your spending on a credit card paid off by the joint account - that way he can only see the credit card total not the individual items. But he may question the total. Or, of course, get a job.

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 10/09/2025 20:35

Arran2024 · 10/09/2025 20:13

Where? Well, i live on the Surrey / South West London border and it is pretty common here. The men work in finance, media, law etc in London and they have big houses with stay at home wives. Places like Weybridge, Cobham, Esher are chock full of families like this.

I stayed at home when we adopted two children with a lot of additional needs and I ended up becoming a full time carer. So I knew a lot of other stay at home wives.

I don’t recognise it. I work with a lot of City workers and the majority are either gay, divorced or have working wives.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 20:34

TeamBuffalo · 10/09/2025 20:27

None of these are full time jobs, unless you choose to make them so.

Listing tasks doesn’t elevate then to status of equivalent To a job
Housewife isn’t a job. Doing your own chores isn’t a job. Feeding your children isn’t a job

AngelicKaty · 10/09/2025 20:31

Arran2024 · 10/09/2025 20:04

Sorry but lots of high earning men want and demand that their wife stays at home. It is part of the package they want. It's not just about the kids, it's having allvthe domestic stuff taken care of. She is not necessarily able to set the terms and conditions while she is with him, including getting a job.

And if that's the "package" OP's DH wants why would he disrupt the setup by cutting off her only income? That doesn't make sense.

Wetoldyousaurus · 10/09/2025 20:30

LovelyLuluu · 10/09/2025 20:05

Please be careful OP. He used your name and identity to dodge tax. Now that he no longer has that use for you, he is removing your access to the income that tax dodge generated.

@Wetoldyousaurus Come on..it's perfectly legal for married couples to split assets in order to minimise tax. Some couples divide their savings so that one of them pays less tax on the interest if the other one has a high income. Absolutely legal.

It's not a tax dodge. The BTL is mainly in her name so she earns the most but will pay 20% tax not 40% which he would .

He/they (plural) have been benefitting from the use of her identity, a benefit he wouldn’t be getting if it weren’t for their relationship. In that way he has avoided (legally) paying some tax, so she is rightly entitled to that dividend for herself, which he seems to have recognised. Now that he doesn’t want to use her/their marriage like that anymore he is trying to force her to end the deal, to her detriment. She is right to put up a fight if she doesn’t agree. However, if she can’t hold onto the property independently from him ultimately she will have to sell. But she is entitled to seek advice and try to find an alternative source of income first, whilst setting new terms in the household about who will cover the work she currently does ‘for free’ as a SAHM.

All I’m saying is, she needs to take control and recognise that the use of her identity and her ‘free labour’ in marriage should always benefit both of them equally in the partnership, as should his paid labour. If he is anything like my dad, he won’t see it that way and he will take every advantage he can and leave her destitute when he tires of her because he was the one who ‘earned the money’. The OP needs to wake up and start protecting herself.

AngelicKaty · 10/09/2025 20:28

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 10/09/2025 20:01

I think the issue here is that there haven’t been a proper discussion about finances.

Or there has been, but OP just isn't sharing her DH's POV about it.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 10/09/2025 20:28

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 10/09/2025 20:01

I think the issue here is that there haven’t been a proper discussion about finances.

This! It seems like a lot of things were not discussed clearly. I have seen a lot of women who were SAHM whose husbands expected them to go back to work when the kids went to school, and several who found that very traumatic or who flatly did not want to. I dont feel it is reasonable to expect to continue to SAHM to be honest, but I can also see it is hard to change or give up.

TeamBuffalo · 10/09/2025 20:27

Onthebusses · 10/09/2025 14:25

She raises the kids, does drop offs and pick ups, probably meetings with teachers, keeps the house clean, laundry, makes meals. These are all full-time jobs in and of themselves.

None of these are full time jobs, unless you choose to make them so.

Reasontoreason · 10/09/2025 20:25

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 10/09/2025 20:07

My daughter sees that women can do more than domestic chores, can be equal partners, can have ambition and that dads can do everything mums can do.

We manage to sort out uniforms and homework and personal hygiene whilst working full time, travelling, maintaining hobbies and studying.

That’s good for you. My children see that a husband and wife can work together to make each other’s lives easier, so they don’t have two exhausted parents. Instead, we get to spend more quality time together enjoying hobbies and traveling. With smart investments and savings, it’s possible to live comfortably because life is meant for living.

redskydelight · 10/09/2025 20:17

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 20:08

No, you stated private school fees include wrap round that is not a universal
Equally,you clearly don’t know that school fees don’t include after school and wrap round care.

I didn't state private schools include wraparound. I said the ones near me do.

Here's what I said to prevent you scrolling back:
OP has not said what school her DC go to.
So you have no idea whether wraparound care is including in the fees (as it is for private schools near me) or not.

Your statement was that wraparound is an extra cost and you did not indicate that this was only true at some schools.

this is what you said
No you pay additional fee for after school and breakfast club, not included in fees

You cannot possibly know whether OP's school charges as extra or includes in the fees, as she's not said what school it is.

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 20:16

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 20:14

and my school doesn’t. It’s an additional charge

That's why I said MOST. I can't help it if you picked a school that doesn't. The majority of parents will still need to get a job and pay for the wraparound.

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 20:15

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 20:08

No, you stated private school fees include wrap round that is not a universal
Equally,you clearly don’t know that school fees don’t include after school and wrap round care.

No she didn't. I said MOST private schools do. The vast majority of private schools I've encountered offer care from 8:00-5:30 within the cost of the fees.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 20:14

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 20:10

Nearly all the private schools near me offer wraparound care as standard.

and my school doesn’t. It’s an additional charge

Arran2024 · 10/09/2025 20:13

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 10/09/2025 20:07

Where?

Where? Well, i live on the Surrey / South West London border and it is pretty common here. The men work in finance, media, law etc in London and they have big houses with stay at home wives. Places like Weybridge, Cobham, Esher are chock full of families like this.

I stayed at home when we adopted two children with a lot of additional needs and I ended up becoming a full time carer. So I knew a lot of other stay at home wives.

Cosyblankets · 10/09/2025 20:12

What job did you do before? Why can't you manage the BTL?

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 20:10

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 19:26

No
you pay additional fee for after school and breakfast club, not included in fees

Nearly all the private schools near me offer wraparound care as standard.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 20:08

redskydelight · 10/09/2025 19:58

OP has not said what school her DC go to.
So you have no idea whether wraparound care is including in the fees (as it is for private schools near me) or not.

No, you stated private school fees include wrap round that is not a universal
Equally,you clearly don’t know that school fees don’t include after school and wrap round care.

AtBeaverGoat · 10/09/2025 20:07

whitewineandsun · 10/09/2025 19:47

You've got a pretty good ride, OP. Maybe he's aick of paying all the bills. I'd be sitting up straight and paying attention right about now.

100% this ^^ ,

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 10/09/2025 20:07

Arran2024 · 10/09/2025 20:04

Sorry but lots of high earning men want and demand that their wife stays at home. It is part of the package they want. It's not just about the kids, it's having allvthe domestic stuff taken care of. She is not necessarily able to set the terms and conditions while she is with him, including getting a job.

Where?

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 10/09/2025 20:07

Reasontoreason · 10/09/2025 19:06

She’s still a SAHM even if her kids are at school. She’s the one doing school runs, sorting uniforms, helping with homework, cooking meals, and keeping the home running smoothly. When the children were younger, she probably saved the family thousands in childcare costs. She may have missed out on career opportunities and promotions by staying home, while her husband could focus on his career without worry.
I’m a SAHM with school-age children, and it absolutely makes our lives easier. My husband goes to work, and when he comes home the house is clean, dinner is ready, the kids are bathed, and homework is done. That means we can actually relax together as a family. It may not be for everyone, but for us, it works for others OP hasn’t actually said her husband would like her to get a job . If they don’t both agree with her stying home that’s different

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My daughter sees that women can do more than domestic chores, can be equal partners, can have ambition and that dads can do everything mums can do.

We manage to sort out uniforms and homework and personal hygiene whilst working full time, travelling, maintaining hobbies and studying.

LovelyLuluu · 10/09/2025 20:05

Please be careful OP. He used your name and identity to dodge tax. Now that he no longer has that use for you, he is removing your access to the income that tax dodge generated.

@Wetoldyousaurus Come on..it's perfectly legal for married couples to split assets in order to minimise tax. Some couples divide their savings so that one of them pays less tax on the interest if the other one has a high income. Absolutely legal.

It's not a tax dodge. The BTL is mainly in her name so she earns the most but will pay 20% tax not 40% which he would .

Arran2024 · 10/09/2025 20:04

Throwmoneyatit · 10/09/2025 16:59

You want spends? Get a job like a hell of a lot of people.
You've got spending money effectively, by default.
Sounds like you want your dh to work longer so you don't have to.
If I were your dh, I'd be fed up of working my arse off when my partner is doing absolutely nothing during the day Monday to Friday and I'd want to sell the house to look out for me and in return, you can get a job and contribute instead of spending.

Sorry but lots of high earning men want and demand that their wife stays at home. It is part of the package they want. It's not just about the kids, it's having allvthe domestic stuff taken care of. She is not necessarily able to set the terms and conditions while she is with him, including getting a job.

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 10/09/2025 20:01

I think the issue here is that there haven’t been a proper discussion about finances.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 10/09/2025 19:59

Reasontoreason · 10/09/2025 19:06

She’s still a SAHM even if her kids are at school. She’s the one doing school runs, sorting uniforms, helping with homework, cooking meals, and keeping the home running smoothly. When the children were younger, she probably saved the family thousands in childcare costs. She may have missed out on career opportunities and promotions by staying home, while her husband could focus on his career without worry.
I’m a SAHM with school-age children, and it absolutely makes our lives easier. My husband goes to work, and when he comes home the house is clean, dinner is ready, the kids are bathed, and homework is done. That means we can actually relax together as a family. It may not be for everyone, but for us, it works for others OP hasn’t actually said her husband would like her to get a job . If they don’t both agree with her stying home that’s different

Edited

And the vast majority of people do that and hold down a full-time job.

Being a SAHP is fine if all parties involved are happy, but that's not the case here. At the moment, OP's husband works full-time, pays for a cleaner and runs a side-business while OP does...what, exactly? She doesn't work, she doesn't even run the rental that gives her her income, and her kids are in school all day.

Let's not pretend she's hard done by and working her socks off.

redskydelight · 10/09/2025 19:58

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 19:26

No
you pay additional fee for after school and breakfast club, not included in fees

OP has not said what school her DC go to.
So you have no idea whether wraparound care is including in the fees (as it is for private schools near me) or not.