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To ask DH to keep our BTL

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Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 13:50

We own a BTL property that generates a decent income for me - it’s set up so that most of the income is directed to me. DH plans to refurbish and sell the property and us the proceeds to pay of the mortgage on our house. All very sensible but as I don’t work, the BTL is my only source of income. DH doesn’t plan on reducing the monthly payments on our mortgage, but he is going to reduce the term, so we won’t see any immediate benefit from lower repayments. I am feeling distressed because this money provides me with considerable financial freedom.

My husband is refusing to discuss and has told me the plan to sell is final.

OP posts:
ChangingWeight · 10/09/2025 18:11

m00rfarm · 10/09/2025 18:07

I believe the children in the private school are the OP's children. Not the children of her husband. The income from HIS house (that he owned before marriage), that HE does all the work for, pays for the cleaning (that OP can't or won't do, pays for HER children to go to private school, and some treats for HIS children. Personally, I am not entirely sure what the husband actually gets from this relationship.

I mean, I assume the OP is probably more attractive than he is, given everything else seems imbalanced in their relationship. What triggered his change in mind is probably a tale as old as time, he’s probably bored of the relationship and feels like he needs to protect his assets.

Rosieposy89 · 10/09/2025 18:09

You need to get a job

MrsWalker2025 · 10/09/2025 18:09

This has to be a joke? Have you ever had a job OP?

ChangingWeight · 10/09/2025 18:08

Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 17:05

It covers a cleaner, due to a physical condition I’m unable to clean the house to the standard that I want; it partly pays for school fees for my DC; the rest is on treat and misc expenses, which I equally spend on his DC.

to be honest you do sound quite lazy. Don’t get me wrong, loads of women are equally lazy & live off their husbands comfortably and don’t work - but your husband wants to stop your set up. That’s your problem. It doesn’t matter what anyone else says or does, if he isn’t willing to continue this arrangement.

he isn’t being unreasonable. it is inherently lazy for you to not get your own job, but instead to be reliant on rental income on his property, that he continues to manage as the landlord. It’s hard to see what you’re actually contributing to that property aside from a legal loophole that gives him some financial benefit by putting your name on the deed. He seems quite savvy so this isn’t a battle I foresee you winning. If he divorced you, would you be able to maintain your lifestyle alone or would you continue to be reliant on him?

your children are old enough to not require a SAHM. Again, many women are bankrolled by their husbands but your husband isn’t happy with your arrangement, so you don’t have a leg to stand on.

build your own financial independence.

m00rfarm · 10/09/2025 18:07

FairKoala · 10/09/2025 17:27

If he can’t afford to replace the income. How is he going to manage to pay what that income is paying for now

Can you look for a full time job to replace the income. Obviously because dc are at primary school you will need wrap around care which he will also need to pay half of as well as half of the cleaners costs and school fees. As well as doing half of the pickups and drop offs
Half the cooking, shopping, cleaning. He can’t just come home anymore and not have any responsibilities

I would say he wants you out at work. The problem comes when he expects you to do everything you did before and his life not to change.

I believe the children in the private school are the OP's children. Not the children of her husband. The income from HIS house (that he owned before marriage), that HE does all the work for, pays for the cleaning (that OP can't or won't do, pays for HER children to go to private school, and some treats for HIS children. Personally, I am not entirely sure what the husband actually gets from this relationship.

Whaleandsnail6 · 10/09/2025 18:07

This way of managing finances clearly doesn't work for him anymore, particularly if he has accused you of "being superfluous" in the past.

I think you need to sit down and discuss the solution to how finances will work if he sells the HMO. It does need to be a "both of you" decision but from the information you have given on this thread, it does sound like you have it pretty easy at the moment (school aged kids and a cleaner and the whole income from the HMO) whilst he works full time so I can see why, if his overall plan is to retire early , he wants to make changes

CoffeeCupOnBreak · 10/09/2025 18:05

Reasontoreason · 10/09/2025 17:34

OP you won’t get a lot of support on here being a SAHM . A lot of the time it sounds like jealousy. It’s a joint property and your husband doesn’t get a final say . Explain your concerns send him a message if it easer to relay all your worries.

Sounds like he does though since he is doing at all

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 10/09/2025 18:04

Is there a word for the female equivalent of a cock-lodger ?

LovelyLuluu · 10/09/2025 18:04

Have you ever worked in a way that meant you could support yourself? Or have you always been dependent on a man?

Do you have any qualifications or experience of work?

It's not clear at all what the income from the BTL is used for.
You said a cleaner (is that for the BTL or your own home?)
School fees (how will they be paid if the BTL is sold?)
And the rest if your 'pocket money' for odds and sods.

Presumably you are declaring this as income and do a SA or an accountant does it all for you.

How much would you have to earn if you had a job to replace this rental income?

AngelicKaty · 10/09/2025 18:04

@Reasontoreason

  • "But she doesn’t work?" I know, she's told us that - that doesn't mean she can't.
  • "And may not be able to." Pure conjecture on your part - OP hasn't told us she's so disabled that she can't work (although given this thread is one big drip-feed, maybe that's to come).
  • "Just because her husband is selling the house doesn’t mean he wants her to get a job?" I haven't said it does.
  • "Maybe she doesn’t want one?" That much is patently clear.
  • "As long as they don’t claim benefits that’s for them to sort out." Of course it is, but instead of discussing it with her DH to agree a mutually satisfactory resolution, she's started a thread on MN.
Furthermore, OP's told us in a recent post that the reason they arranged for the income from the HMO to be paid directly to her is because there was "friction" in their marriage when she spent from their joint account because her DH would comment that she spent money on "frivolous" things. OP isn't answering my questions on this so we have no idea if she's a profligate spender or if her DH is exceptionally controlling - both could be true.
Saz12 · 10/09/2025 18:03

If you're not going to find paid employment, then you need to agree on what is a sensible budget for household costs and school fees and your spending money given the household income.

And figure out what would be the best way to sasaveor invest the rest. DH might be better paying into a pension from his salary (tax-free).

But you need an honest conversation about your joint finances and plans. You cant expect DH to bankroll you indefinitely.

Motheranddaughter · 10/09/2025 18:02

Being a SAHM to children who are at school is in no way a job

Motheranddaughter · 10/09/2025 17:59

Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 16:47

He wouldn’t be able to - our household expenses use up the bulk of our income. I’ll have to use our joint account but I now he’ll start making comments about my spending, in particular on things he considers superfluous. Moving the HMO to me was designed to stop this friction in our marriage.

In that case I have sympathy with your position
So if you want money you have to find a job

Grammarnut · 10/09/2025 17:57

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 14:43

She says there is an estate agent. But I would argue that if you think you're so far above your tenants that you shouldn't even have to talk to them you have no business being a landlord.

I don't think I am above my tenants, of course, and was brought up in private rented accommodation myself - and I would never treat my tenants the way some landlords treated my parents. However, having a go-between keeps relationships friendly - if I need to see the tenants I do and we have friendly relationships, even exchange cakes etc. on occasion.

LayeredlikeanOnion · 10/09/2025 17:56

@Nosdoc get a job, and show him it won't work. He'll have to pay for childcare won't he

albalass · 10/09/2025 17:55

MummytoaMiracle01 · 10/09/2025 17:53

So do many mothers who work. I do all this , work full time , have pain condition and attend college in the evenings 🙄 how can you be a SAHM when your children are out of the house 7 hours a day

Agree, these are not full time jobs. Many of us manage to fit in several days work a week and do everything you list and more.

Edited to say I meant everything the PP listed.

Nanny0gg · 10/09/2025 17:55

Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 17:05

It covers a cleaner, due to a physical condition I’m unable to clean the house to the standard that I want; it partly pays for school fees for my DC; the rest is on treat and misc expenses, which I equally spend on his DC.

Maybe if you learned to manage it properly it would be a job and worthwhile keeping

Chazbots · 10/09/2025 17:55

Perhaps in hindsight, saving a good proportion, rather than spending (lower your standards for cleaning, etc.) would have been a good idea. It does sound like you've got used to a level of spending that's unsustainable, given your DH's wish to retire early.

MummytoaMiracle01 · 10/09/2025 17:53

Onthebusses · 10/09/2025 14:25

She raises the kids, does drop offs and pick ups, probably meetings with teachers, keeps the house clean, laundry, makes meals. These are all full-time jobs in and of themselves.

So do many mothers who work. I do all this , work full time , have pain condition and attend college in the evenings 🙄 how can you be a SAHM when your children are out of the house 7 hours a day

albalass · 10/09/2025 17:53

So your husband bought the property, manages and funds the maintenance, and manages the tenancies, licences etc? If so then I'd say it's completely up to him if he wants to sell. I am a landlord (small one bed property) and I feel that is stressful at times never mind an HMO. If you were managing everything to do with the property then fair enough but it's not fair to expect him to work full time in a regular job and manage an HMO while you don't work? You say you can't but your children are in school?

Digdongdoo · 10/09/2025 17:49

JaneEyre40 · 10/09/2025 17:46

She literally said 'his children'

Yes thankyou. I missed the sneaky drip feed. Shoot me.

JaneEyre40 · 10/09/2025 17:46

Digdongdoo · 10/09/2025 17:10

Oh I missed that. So rather complicated then.

She literally said 'his children'

RawBloomers · 10/09/2025 17:46

OP what’s your AIBU here? You are baulking at having no source of income of your own. You need to get one.

You’ve been relying on someone giving you money (albeit you have been providing childcare for some years during that). But if you want financial freedom you need to generate finances somehow, not rely on someone else. This is especially true if, as it sounds, you have children that are not the responsibility of the person who has been covering your spending.

Unless you made a big sacrifice to allow him to do whatever it is he is currently able to do, your DH doesn’t sound particularly unreasonable to want to lower his retirement age rather than keep you (and another man’s children?) in spending money.

Did you used to have a similar source of income before you married him or had children with him? Can you get that back?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 10/09/2025 17:46

Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 14:01

He does all of the maintenance, taxes, dealing with estate agents and tenants. He will refuse to do that if I refuse to sell.

Well, I don't blame him for wanting to sell as it is a lot of work (I have done it for a small HMO).

Reasontoreason · 10/09/2025 17:46

AngelicKaty · 10/09/2025 17:41

@Reasontoreason "How is he expecting you to fund your life style once the house is sold?" At least one answer to this is for OP to get a job.

But she doesn’t work ? And may not be able to . Just because her husband is selling the house doesn’t mean he wants her to get a job ? maybe she doesn’t want one ? As long as they don’t claim benefits that’s for them to sort out .