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To ask DH to keep our BTL

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Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 13:50

We own a BTL property that generates a decent income for me - it’s set up so that most of the income is directed to me. DH plans to refurbish and sell the property and us the proceeds to pay of the mortgage on our house. All very sensible but as I don’t work, the BTL is my only source of income. DH doesn’t plan on reducing the monthly payments on our mortgage, but he is going to reduce the term, so we won’t see any immediate benefit from lower repayments. I am feeling distressed because this money provides me with considerable financial freedom.

My husband is refusing to discuss and has told me the plan to sell is final.

OP posts:
Wetoldyousaurus · 10/09/2025 19:58

Please be careful OP. He used your name and identity to dodge tax. Now that he no longer has that use for you, he is removing your access to the income that tax dodge generated. I think you should tell him that you will make a plan to go back to some type of work that generates at least as much as what the property generated for you. And that only after this is in place you will sign the property over. He can’t force you to sign it over and if he doesn’t want to carry on the maintenance during this time, defer it for a bit.

The fact that he doesn’t seem to agree with you being a SAHM anymore is a problem for you. You have to ask him straight up about this and make him aware of how his life and care responsibilities will have to change if you go back to work. Make sure he is prepared to take this on board. Always, always make sure you have a seperate bank account where you receive some money that he isn’t able to access without your express consent. Men like this have no understanding of the daily costs and needs of women and children and he will pick apart every purchase if you let him.

My father used my mother’s identity frequently for tax advantage and left her with nothing in the end. I know it’s hard but you have to start taking some action to protect yourself and your child.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 19:51

Reasontoreason · 10/09/2025 19:06

She’s still a SAHM even if her kids are at school. She’s the one doing school runs, sorting uniforms, helping with homework, cooking meals, and keeping the home running smoothly. When the children were younger, she probably saved the family thousands in childcare costs. She may have missed out on career opportunities and promotions by staying home, while her husband could focus on his career without worry.
I’m a SAHM with school-age children, and it absolutely makes our lives easier. My husband goes to work, and when he comes home the house is clean, dinner is ready, the kids are bathed, and homework is done. That means we can actually relax together as a family. It may not be for everyone, but for us, it works for others OP hasn’t actually said her husband would like her to get a job . If they don’t both agree with her stying home that’s different

Edited

No. You’re just Listing tasks as if onerous or stretching tasks you over time
Most people work and manage everything you’ve listed
Bills, Direct Debit etc - pay online , few tap on an app
Laundry pop in machine
Chores don’t mean you can’t work.

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/09/2025 19:50

The rental income so dh house /money or joint if you call the pot pays for your child to go to private school

so how will the fees now be paid

still by your dh ?

BIossomtoes · 10/09/2025 19:50

Reasontoreason · 10/09/2025 19:48

And that’s entirely up to them , not something I would like to do .

Some people have no choice. Just like OP wouldn’t if she was a single parent. And I predict that’s in her future if she doesn’t buck her ideas up.

Reasontoreason · 10/09/2025 19:48

Mildandcreamyricotta · 10/09/2025 19:28

Jeez. You know other people do all that AND work don’t you?

And that’s entirely up to them , not something I would like to do .

whitewineandsun · 10/09/2025 19:47

AmyDuPlantier · 10/09/2025 14:18

So he pays all the bills and works and does all the management of owning this large HMO, and you just get the income?

No wonder he wants to sell it and you want to keep it!

You've got a pretty good ride, OP. Maybe he's aick of paying all the bills. I'd be sitting up straight and paying attention right about now.

Cherrysoup · 10/09/2025 19:46

I don’t understand why, given all the dc are at least in primary, you can’t, as many people do, organise wraparound care and get a job. If you have multiple properties, you could probably/possibly afford this? And why can’t you sort out tenants/estate agent/repairs? I do, despite working full time. You just use an agent who sorts pretty much everything and they take a fee, but don’t even have to speak to you. You could give them a financial limit of eg £400 before they need authorisation from you. I actually sacked the agent when I discovered they’d left a family with a brand new baby without hot water/heating for 3 days.

oviraptor21 · 10/09/2025 19:46

I would look at starting to take over some of the work of the rental properties. Take some pressure off him and build some independence for you.

Rexthesnail · 10/09/2025 19:45

As a dyslexic, I was looking forward to a thread about a BLT sandwich, I am bitterly disappointed

oviraptor21 · 10/09/2025 19:44

nearlylovemyusername · 10/09/2025 19:19

But it's not for him to worry about OP's independence surely? it's for her to sort this out?

At present he invests time and effort in this BTL and gets nothing out of it.

Well yes, it is a joint concern.
There needs to be a discussion about how finances are to be managed now. It seems like there are other rental properties in the portfolio so perhaps it makes sense to divert some of the income to OP.
I'm sure it won't take long for the DH to realise that if OP is to work then he will need to pick up some of the slack in terms of childcare and housekeeping. There are very few jobs which are short hours, term time only and pay anything like enough to make it worthwhile losing the flexibility that a SAHM brings to a higher income partner.

Mewling · 10/09/2025 19:43

Nice work if you can get it.

whistlesandbells · 10/09/2025 19:41

Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 14:01

He does all of the maintenance, taxes, dealing with estate agents and tenants. He will refuse to do that if I refuse to sell.

So you could do it, surely? Don’t let him holding this over you be the reason you choose to bow to pressure.

lessglittermoremud · 10/09/2025 19:38

Your husband owned the property before you were married, he manages it and sorts out all the maintenance and hassle that goes along with it.
You stay at home with your primary school aged children and don’t want him to sell it because otherwise you won’t have spending money and your DH will be aware what you are spending the joint account money on as that will be the only money you have access to?!
Im not surprised he wants to sell it, and really, as he does all the work for it and owned it prior to the marriage you can’t really expect to have too much of a say.
If a woman on here was saying that she had an HMO that she managed and owned prior to the marriage that she wanted to sell but her DH didn’t want her to sell it because he doesn’t want to work and also doesn’t want her to be able to comment on his spending, she would be advised to leave or he’d be called a cock lodger….
I found your attitude totally bizarre, I don’t ’have to’ work we could manage without me doing so, but because I don’t want anyone thinking they can dictate how I spend money I make sure I EARN MY OWN…. I too have children, I pick them up from school, do homework etc they aren’t traumatised by the fact their Mother works, they know that if you want money for stuff you have to earn it and save and that it’s my wages that enables them to have all the extra things that they do.

7inchesFromTheMiddaySun · 10/09/2025 19:36

No OP. YOU don't pay for your child. Your husband pays through the BTL. you're not earning anything, so you re paying for nothing.

Shewasafaireh · 10/09/2025 19:34

Reasontoreason · 10/09/2025 19:06

She’s still a SAHM even if her kids are at school. She’s the one doing school runs, sorting uniforms, helping with homework, cooking meals, and keeping the home running smoothly. When the children were younger, she probably saved the family thousands in childcare costs. She may have missed out on career opportunities and promotions by staying home, while her husband could focus on his career without worry.
I’m a SAHM with school-age children, and it absolutely makes our lives easier. My husband goes to work, and when he comes home the house is clean, dinner is ready, the kids are bathed, and homework is done. That means we can actually relax together as a family. It may not be for everyone, but for us, it works for others OP hasn’t actually said her husband would like her to get a job . If they don’t both agree with her stying home that’s different

Edited

It doesn’t seem like OP was particularly bothered about having made some huge career sacrifice, she’s bothered her unaccounted fun money is coming an end.
She also has a cleaner, so really her tasks are very minimal and easily done by working parents too. Hell, she could work PT and it would still give her plenty of time for cooking and homework.

Like you said it’s great if everyone is on board with it, but the husband doesn’t seem to be anymore and the logical solution is for her to find her own income.

It would be essential for us to know what he considered as frivolous and whether that’s unreasonable or not.

bugalugs45 · 10/09/2025 19:28

Bagsintheboot · 10/09/2025 16:49

Ok, so the bulk of the income goes on expenses and bills, that's not so unusual.

How much spending money do you get, and what do you spend it on?

How much spending money does he get, and what does he spend it on?

You mentioned you have significant financial freedom thanks to the HMO income. How much financial freedom does your H have?

Hahahahaha, she’s not going to tell you that ! Op has successfully avoided any question that she doesn’t want to answer so far.
Seems DH has had enough of being taken for a mug and has finally put his foot down !

Mildandcreamyricotta · 10/09/2025 19:28

Reasontoreason · 10/09/2025 19:06

She’s still a SAHM even if her kids are at school. She’s the one doing school runs, sorting uniforms, helping with homework, cooking meals, and keeping the home running smoothly. When the children were younger, she probably saved the family thousands in childcare costs. She may have missed out on career opportunities and promotions by staying home, while her husband could focus on his career without worry.
I’m a SAHM with school-age children, and it absolutely makes our lives easier. My husband goes to work, and when he comes home the house is clean, dinner is ready, the kids are bathed, and homework is done. That means we can actually relax together as a family. It may not be for everyone, but for us, it works for others OP hasn’t actually said her husband would like her to get a job . If they don’t both agree with her stying home that’s different

Edited

Jeez. You know other people do all that AND work don’t you?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/09/2025 19:28

MumOryLane · 10/09/2025 18:54

It sounds like the original agreement was you manage the BTL and look after the children and he works full time. But the goal posts moved to him working full time and looking after the btl and the children being at school.

Tread carefully OP because you might think you have all the cards right now but the minute he calls your bluff and divorces you, you are up the creek. Half of the equity in the properties and cms will be a much less financially comfortable existence than this one. Especially if you can't manage any of the rentals so can't keep them on yourself and have an out of date cv that will only get you back in the workplace as a minimum wage worker.

Wise words, MumOryLane

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 19:26

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 19:24

Most Private schools offer wraparound care as part of the fees so it's very likely she could have 8-5:30.

No
you pay additional fee for after school and breakfast club, not included in fees

RawBloomers · 10/09/2025 19:26

Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 18:26

I pay for my child to go to the same school as our DC. My ex contributes, I use the rental income and savings I have. It’s convenient for everyone.

It would be a poor decision on many levels to remove a child from the same school as their siblings in order to retire earlier. But is that something your DH would be likely to complain about you spending money front the joint account on? He surely knows that the BTL money covers that?

If he doesn’t want your own child to go to the same school as your joint children and is prepared to refuse to pay for it, he is being very unreasonable. But it also means you need to be thinking about how to split up from him. It’s damaging to bring a child up in an atmosphere like that with obvious favourtism towards siblings. You can’t stay if he thinks of your own child like that. (Also a big pointer towards the need to start earning your own money again).

InMyShowgirlEra · 10/09/2025 19:24

Onthebusses · 10/09/2025 14:47

But school finishes at 3:30 and begins at 9am so you can only ever work 10-2. What's the point?

Most Private schools offer wraparound care as part of the fees so it's very likely she could have 8-5:30.

GoldPoster · 10/09/2025 19:23

We’ve just exchanged contracts on selling our BTL. I’m really pleased. Of course if I’d been just sitting back doing nothing while the income rolled in I wouldn’t be so relieved.

I’m with your husband.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 10/09/2025 19:21

Nosdoc · 10/09/2025 18:26

I pay for my child to go to the same school as our DC. My ex contributes, I use the rental income and savings I have. It’s convenient for everyone.

No. You don’t pay, you spend the money from the BTL to finance your lifestyle and your child school fees. No wonder feel aggrieved. You Take (a lot) and don’t contribute practically or financially

nearlylovemyusername · 10/09/2025 19:19

TonTonMacoute · 10/09/2025 19:15

Your DH is NBU to want to get rid of the BTL.

However, he should be agreeing to have a proper conversation with you about the whole issue, and how you keep some independence.

But it's not for him to worry about OP's independence surely? it's for her to sort this out?

At present he invests time and effort in this BTL and gets nothing out of it.

Septemberain25 · 10/09/2025 19:18

OP you've had a great deal, but does seem to be coming to an end.

Your DH wants to sell the BTL to reduce the mortgage term on your resudence, so he can retire early.

You seem to want him to continue to work full time and manage the BTL property, so that you can have a comfortable lifestlye without having to work.

I'd be really pissed off if I was him.